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To be shocked to read on reddit threads discussing andy carrol the many reports of women sexually assaulting men

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Tinkalinkalink · 27/09/2026 11:15

To think It was really sad to read so many posts where men detail unwilling sex or waking up to sex acts etc. All saying no one takes this seriously and the impact its had on them.

Is this widely known?

Do we need to be talking about women gaining consent from men more .

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Naunet · 27/09/2026 16:53

Ponoka7 · 27/09/2026 16:36

How do you know how it would be dealt with if the sexes were reversed? Girls, not women, under 16s are being murdered by boys, for breaking off relationships. In every case there's been stalking/harrasment that's been reported. No-one took action. The amount of women being murdered by stalkers is shocking. There's documentaries on it.
I can remember when the sexual harrasment laws and work policies came into being. A lot of men were up in arms, even a TV presenter said that men couldn't flirt by putting a hand on a colleagues knee etc. How were men supposed to show they are interested if they couldn't put their hands on us etc. Start discussions on street harrasment, men don't want new laws. Likewise filming women on nights out, up skirting, even spiking. Sadly read a news report on a female teacher SA a male pupil and the comments, from men, will include "lucky bastard". As always women have enough to do, this has got to come from men. All we can do is point out when it happens that it isn't a joke, which is more than a lot of men do.

Its a particularly mind blowing comment when weve just had a girl stabbed 10 times in broad daylight by a teen boy, who has been let off incredibly lightly.

Pipsthegame · 27/09/2026 16:54

Pipsthegame · 27/09/2026 16:53

@Jnu

your son had his bum smacked in a club
he found security and explain he’d had his arse smacked
they immediately took him to the office and trawled through cctv with him
they identified the “smacker”
they then sought out the girl and made her apologise to the girl and turned to your son and said they’d call the police if he wished

correct?

I genuinely would appreciate your answer @Jnu

Jnu · 27/09/2026 16:58

Pipsthegame · 27/09/2026 16:53

@Jnu

your son had his bum smacked in a club
he found security and explain he’d had his arse smacked
they immediately took him to the office and trawled through cctv with him
they identified the “smacker”
they then sought out the girl and made her apologise to the girl and turned to your son and said they’d call the police if he wished

correct?

Yes

Pipsthegame · 27/09/2026 17:00

Jnu · 27/09/2026 16:58

Yes

And he’s done this multiple times you say and got quite a few girls “kicked out” for smacking his bum?

Are you in the Uk? How old is your son?

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:21

Pipsthegame · 27/09/2026 16:26

What was the upshot of all this @Lexibletheflexible ?

Nothing. She was told to stop and it was just before summer so just came back in the new term like nothing happened. I know he tended to avoid her but they were in the same year with mutual friends so he couldn't entirely.

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:24

Ponoka7 · 27/09/2026 16:36

How do you know how it would be dealt with if the sexes were reversed? Girls, not women, under 16s are being murdered by boys, for breaking off relationships. In every case there's been stalking/harrasment that's been reported. No-one took action. The amount of women being murdered by stalkers is shocking. There's documentaries on it.
I can remember when the sexual harrasment laws and work policies came into being. A lot of men were up in arms, even a TV presenter said that men couldn't flirt by putting a hand on a colleagues knee etc. How were men supposed to show they are interested if they couldn't put their hands on us etc. Start discussions on street harrasment, men don't want new laws. Likewise filming women on nights out, up skirting, even spiking. Sadly read a news report on a female teacher SA a male pupil and the comments, from men, will include "lucky bastard". As always women have enough to do, this has got to come from men. All we can do is point out when it happens that it isn't a joke, which is more than a lot of men do.

Because it has been dealt with differently. The boy was told they won't be accepting fees for another term for very similar behaviour.

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:26

Naunet · 27/09/2026 16:34

Because girls being stalked is always taken so seriously isn't it? I mean seriously, what the fuck is this attitude? Women have been murdered because no one has taken their harassment seriously FFS, so no, a lot of people would have defended your son and dismissed this girl if it had been the other way around.

No if they had evidence of something like 50+ attempts at contact after he had been blocked, they'd have probably asked him not to return to school. It would be labelled harassment, rightly, not "heartbreak".

Pipsthegame · 28/09/2026 07:28

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:21

Nothing. She was told to stop and it was just before summer so just came back in the new term like nothing happened. I know he tended to avoid her but they were in the same year with mutual friends so he couldn't entirely.

And she stopped?

the end of the matter?

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:28

Pipsthegame · 27/09/2026 16:37

i find it odd that @Lexibletheflexible leaves the incident half finished. What happened? The girl stopped, nothing more, or it spiralled, got dangerous etc ?

I find it interesting that you don't think her harassing him is the whole story. It's almost like you think her behaviour is normal because it didn't escalate to violence at 14.

The school very much agreed with you that this is just what young girls do and suggested I don't get it because I don't have a teenage daughter.

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:30

Pipsthegame · 28/09/2026 07:28

And she stopped?

the end of the matter?

Yes after she had contacted him through various means through fake accounts and numbers until he wanted to try and change his number to escape her. Once she was aware that he had managed to confide in his parents and the school knew, the child stopped harassing my son for dumping her.

As I said, it was put down to her "heartbreak".

Pipsthegame · 28/09/2026 07:33

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:30

Yes after she had contacted him through various means through fake accounts and numbers until he wanted to try and change his number to escape her. Once she was aware that he had managed to confide in his parents and the school knew, the child stopped harassing my son for dumping her.

As I said, it was put down to her "heartbreak".

Yes but point is… when it all came out in the open…. It stopped. She stopped. And that was the end of it and since then no bother?

Pipsthegame · 28/09/2026 07:34

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:28

I find it interesting that you don't think her harassing him is the whole story. It's almost like you think her behaviour is normal because it didn't escalate to violence at 14.

The school very much agreed with you that this is just what young girls do and suggested I don't get it because I don't have a teenage daughter.

I don’t think “normal” in the slightest.

you left your story half finished

I asked a question asking for clarity. When it all came out in the open - it stopped? Correct?

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:35

Pipsthegame · 28/09/2026 07:33

Yes but point is… when it all came out in the open…. It stopped. She stopped. And that was the end of it and since then no bother?

That was the end of it with him. Who knows how that behaviour might have escalated since it was normalised as a typical reaction to heartbreak. Especially now they are young adults and her partners (hopefully) won't be under the supervision of parents who can help them escape like we could.

One day, that story might be part of her background in a court case.

Pipsthegame · 28/09/2026 07:36

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:35

That was the end of it with him. Who knows how that behaviour might have escalated since it was normalised as a typical reaction to heartbreak. Especially now they are young adults and her partners (hopefully) won't be under the supervision of parents who can help them escape like we could.

One day, that story might be part of her background in a court case.

It never went to the police so I doubt it

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:37

Pipsthegame · 28/09/2026 07:34

I don’t think “normal” in the slightest.

you left your story half finished

I asked a question asking for clarity. When it all came out in the open - it stopped? Correct?

The story was that a 14 year old girl stalked and harassed my son for dumping her and people around her said it was normal for girls to do that when they are dumped. That is the story. If you can't see that is the story, then it speaks more about what you see as a norm than anything else.

It's like you're saying "well she didn't get him stabbed or poison him so what is the problem?". The problem is that at 14, she was already harassing her ex partners.

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:38

Pipsthegame · 28/09/2026 07:36

It never went to the police so I doubt it

It will be on her school record. Judges often ask for background like this, especially if the person is relatively young. Believe me, I know.

Pipsthegame · 28/09/2026 07:39

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:38

It will be on her school record. Judges often ask for background like this, especially if the person is relatively young. Believe me, I know.

I will bow to you on that. You know the prison system better than anyone on Mumsnet!

jeaux90 · 28/09/2026 07:40

FFS 98% of sexual assaults are committed by males according to ONS statistics. When female assault stats start going up I’ll give this series consideration.

In the meantime teaching people about boundaries is the way forward.

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:41

Pipsthegame · 28/09/2026 07:39

I will bow to you on that. You know the prison system better than anyone on Mumsnet!

Ok

Pipsthegame · 28/09/2026 07:42

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:41

Ok

Well you do 🤷‍♀️
what you say on the prison system…. I bow to!

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:42

jeaux90 · 28/09/2026 07:40

FFS 98% of sexual assaults are committed by males according to ONS statistics. When female assault stats start going up I’ll give this series consideration.

In the meantime teaching people about boundaries is the way forward.

What will you give serious consideration?

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:42

Pipsthegame · 28/09/2026 07:42

Well you do 🤷‍♀️
what you say on the prison system…. I bow to!

Ok

Pipsthegame · 28/09/2026 07:45

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:42

Ok

Will you come back to your AMA?

Ponoka7 · 28/09/2026 07:45

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:38

It will be on her school record. Judges often ask for background like this, especially if the person is relatively young. Believe me, I know.

Why aren't the parents of the boy, who was treated more harshly appealing, if its similar? There's a similar (not the same) and a probably in your post.

Pipsthegame · 28/09/2026 07:45

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:42

Ok

Did the girl and her family know about your experience? That may have stopped her on her tracks

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