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DC doesn't want me to see their Halls at university

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Thisgirlcandance · Today 15:19

Hi. I am looking for some perspective as I don't know wether I am right to be feeling quite sad or whether I need to get a grip and pull my big girls pants up.

DD 19 is going away to university this weekend and I have helped with getting her stuff together etc and we generally get on ok.

She is being assessed for autism too.

Thing is, she doesn't want me to see her new accommodation. AT ALL. We were meant to go and drop her off as a family and I was going to take a look at her halls. She said she wanted her dad to drop her off. Fair enough I thought. But, when I suggested that I will pop down at another time she said "why do you need to see it?" This turned into a bit of a row and quite frankly I'm pissed off.

How would you react/feel?

OP posts:
CopeNorth · Today 19:01

Soontobe60 · Today 16:49

If my dds had refused to let me see where they were living I’d have been furious!
my reply would be “ as I’m paying for this accommodation I want to see if”

😬 why… Just to show control?

concertinacornflake · Today 19:03

Thisgirlcandance · Today 19:01

Oh and the "whose paying"? Jeez 🙄

I didn't realise parenting was a bloody monetary transaction.

Well said here.

I think you've done right backing off a bit.

It's a lot for her, if you play the long game she'll hopefully call you soon enough.

NotEnoughtGin · Today 19:04

Let her be, she wants to grow up and move on. Having her mother coming to judge her new place (and you sound like you will judge) is the last thing she wants or needs.

Tell her that you are proud of her, tell her that you are here for her, tell her that you love here. Stop judging her and let her move on.

I say this as someone whose mum came to my room when I moved into uni halls and started judging everything. It hurt that she pointed out the flaws in my choice to move into halls. I still love her, but over 20years later, I still remember and it still hurts

CornerShoes · Today 19:06

concertinacornflake · Today 18:55

I think you've misunderstood what's being said.
Those parents - I'm one of them - who said to give her space just think if a kid is actively stating a boundary, being pushy won't help matters.

If the relationship is relaxed and secure, the scenario won't arise in the first place.

It's not about being cool, it's about playing the long game. The adult DD has actually expressed a clear wish.

I am also into respecting a child’s boundaries and the OP‘s daughter clearly wants to be left alone and that should be respected.

It is the people who simply don’t understand why on earth a parent would want to see where their child is living! A hall room is just generic! And they are not even a child, they are an adult. That kind of try-hard silly nonsense amuses me.

Snoken · Today 19:07

@Thisgirlcandance I have to say though. I wonder how many people would say that I should back off if she one day says mum I have bought a new house or had a baby but why do you need to see it? Judging by some responses here, many will suggest that I am being overbearing or hysterical for wanting to be involved!

I don't think anyone here thinks those situations are unimportant and that you should show no interest in her life achievements. What people are saying is that you can't force her to involve you, it has to come from her when it's about her life. If you know that she finds you overbearing then you could also adjust and tone it down a bit when you are around her. I get what you are saying that she needs to understand how NT people act too, but she will see a lot of that in life in general.

BrilliantBetty · Today 19:12

Thisgirlcandance · Today 19:01

Oh and the "whose paying"? Jeez 🙄

I didn't realise parenting was a bloody monetary transaction.

It is relevant though. There’s a big difference between paying rent for a teenage child and letting them cover it themselves. The later does give them permission to be more independent, and exclude you from visiting their halls if that’s what they want to do. If you’re paying for it you’re a part of it, if you’re not then you’re not.

CopeNorth · Today 19:16

coasthereforawhile · Today 17:10

Being cruel isn’t a boundary.

demanding access to somewhere, that is a shared home with other people is. Would access forced because of a financial contribution really improve a relationship or make Op feel better?

Snoken · Today 19:17

BrilliantBetty · Today 19:12

It is relevant though. There’s a big difference between paying rent for a teenage child and letting them cover it themselves. The later does give them permission to be more independent, and exclude you from visiting their halls if that’s what they want to do. If you’re paying for it you’re a part of it, if you’re not then you’re not.

I don't see it like that at all. My kids are adults and sometimes I pay for things for them, but it doesn't mean I get to insert myself in their lives. If they want to involve me, great, if they don't, also fine. I let them be adults and grow, but I don't mind making life a little easier for them occasionally.

Netcurtainnelly · Today 19:29

Thisgirlcandance · Today 15:19

Hi. I am looking for some perspective as I don't know wether I am right to be feeling quite sad or whether I need to get a grip and pull my big girls pants up.

DD 19 is going away to university this weekend and I have helped with getting her stuff together etc and we generally get on ok.

She is being assessed for autism too.

Thing is, she doesn't want me to see her new accommodation. AT ALL. We were meant to go and drop her off as a family and I was going to take a look at her halls. She said she wanted her dad to drop her off. Fair enough I thought. But, when I suggested that I will pop down at another time she said "why do you need to see it?" This turned into a bit of a row and quite frankly I'm pissed off.

How would you react/feel?

Yanbu it's odd.

Wearedoomed · Today 19:30

I’ve just dropped my oldest off. It’s a difficult time for all concerned so I really feel for you. In my case, I was ready for my daughter to want me gone ASAP (she went through a phase of finding me mortifying) and was surprised to find that wasn’t the case. However, if it had been, hurt though I would have been, I would have just accepted it. I think whatever helps them make the transition easier for them is the order of the day. I hope they settle in well and that you don’t miss them too much ❤️

honeylulu · Today 19:47

I can understand how you feel but it's totally normal. She's a young adult and she is desperate for her own space. I can remember my parents dropping me off at uni and coming up to the room and I didn't forbid them but I felt claustrophobic and stifled and couldn't wait for them to leave. I could hear people in the corridors knocking on each others doors and introducing themselves and I felt like I can't "get started" while my mum and dad were there.

FFW 30 years my son went to uni. Guess what he couldn't wait for us to leave either. He ordered us out of his room. I went to the kitchen to unpack his kitchen stuff and was told not to do that either. I was most affronted as another lad's mum was in the kitchen and allowed to help! I cried on the way home. But all was fine. He still loves us (had now graduated and is back home for a few months!)

Let her go off. You might find in a couple of weeks ages a bit homesicj and would be more amenable to a visit. But right now she's all discombobulated and snappy.

JackGrealishsCalves · Today 19:49

Awww OP don't take it personally, she will have her reasons, maybe she'll think you'll get upset which will then get her upset.
Maybe she thinks you'll find fault with it.
Maybe she just wants to start her new life in her own way.
Like a pp said, when we took ds to uni 3 years ago he was shooing us both out fairly quickly and I felt a bit hurt but I think he just wanted to do it himself

MotherOfCrocodiles · Today 19:50

She probably wants something just for her. Let her have it.

NoiseCancelling · Today 20:18

howshouldibehave · Today 18:27

If she is fine with her dad taking her, then it would seem she is embarrassed by something you do-be it behaviour or appearance?! Yes, I would be upset by this as well.

I would ask her to video call you and give you a tour of the flat.

Embarrassment is more likely to be because mum is who has taken care of her growing up so represents childhood and being looked after.

Netcurtainnelly · Today 20:19

RealFlawless · Today 16:10

I think young people can sometimes find transitions difficult, especially with ND, and I imagine that maybe the idea of her being in the new place and meeting new people but you also being there maybe seems like a bit of a head fuck- she wants to get herself into "I'm at uni" mode, which is going to involve some degree of reinvention, and that's tricky with you being there as well. I think she's taking it to a slight extreme but I don't think it's anything worrying in itself- certainly not something to be "devastated" about 😂

DH was similar when we dropped him off- he was just about ok with us helping him get his bags upstairs but practically shoved us out of the door after that. I've also been chatting with a friend recently who had the idea that she and her husband might stay overnight in the pretty town she's about to take her daughter to, have a nice dinner etc, and her daughter begged her not to because she felt horrified at the idea that her parents would be there somewhere in the same town! It's quite common, I think- some people just want a bit of space to handle the transition.

It may well be that, once she's settled in, she's happy for you to visit.

Not horrified that they wanted to pay for it though.

AmnesiacsDream · Today 20:31

TeenLifeMum · Today 18:59

Agreed. I’m putting £850 per month to cover rent and living costs so hell no to the secrecy. Dependant adults don’t get to set cruel boundaries.

“Cruel” FFS, it’s hard to believe some posters are old enough to have children at uni with childish hyperbole like this.

chirrupybird · Today 20:36

Thisgirlcandance · Today 18:58

Thank you for the thoughtful replies. I have reflected on it quite a bit.

First of all, who said I was "devastated" ?? I said I was "Sad" Do read the OP before riding in on your high horses (just the posters who assumed that I was DEVASTATED)

And secondly, does your child stop being your child once they turn 18? Do they then turn into our monkeys ? The offence this has caused some posters had me cracking up! Of course she is still my child! I'm 48 and my mum still refers to me as her child! I wouldn't have it any other way.

On reflection, yes, I do wear my heart on my sleeve and she most likely finds that overbearing so thank you for the posters who mentioned this. I have agreed that I won't be dropping her off and that I will be around for whenever she needs me or wants to meet up in the local town or whatever.

The pending autism assessment has been something that I am still learning about. I try to react accordingly when I am around her as I know how stress inducing some situations can be for her.
But. I take the approach that she, also must learn about the emotions of those who are apparently neuro typical. After all, what is normal? So she knows that I was hurt by her response and that it will not change magically in an instant.

Regardless of what many think, I don't think it's a lot to ask to to see where they live. Especially since you have assured them that it would a quick drop and go.

I have to say though. I wonder how many people would say that I should back off if she one day says mum I have bought a new house or had a baby but why do you need to see it? Judging by some responses here, many will suggest that I am being overbearing or hysterical for wanting to be involved!

But this is different she is trying to move from being a child to being an adult, rightly or wrongly that means wanting to separate from her parents a bit. Once she is over this and really feels liked an adult it will be fine. At the minute she really needs you to let her go, for a while. You know where she is living and you can keep in touch she may well need a lot of support over the next few years uni is really difficult for many children, don't make it difficult for her to reach out if she needs to

tommyhoundmum · Today 20:43

Thisgirlcandance · Today 15:19

Hi. I am looking for some perspective as I don't know wether I am right to be feeling quite sad or whether I need to get a grip and pull my big girls pants up.

DD 19 is going away to university this weekend and I have helped with getting her stuff together etc and we generally get on ok.

She is being assessed for autism too.

Thing is, she doesn't want me to see her new accommodation. AT ALL. We were meant to go and drop her off as a family and I was going to take a look at her halls. She said she wanted her dad to drop her off. Fair enough I thought. But, when I suggested that I will pop down at another time she said "why do you need to see it?" This turned into a bit of a row and quite frankly I'm pissed off.

How would you react/feel?

This is exactly what happened when my "foster" daughter went to university. She asked her Dad to drive her in a hire vehicle and did all the unpacking etc herself as his health wasn't good. I never did see her accommodation. But that's OK.

I put it to the back of my mind

She's back home now though.

EatenTooMuchChocolateAgain · Today 20:51

Thisgirlcandance · Today 15:19

Hi. I am looking for some perspective as I don't know wether I am right to be feeling quite sad or whether I need to get a grip and pull my big girls pants up.

DD 19 is going away to university this weekend and I have helped with getting her stuff together etc and we generally get on ok.

She is being assessed for autism too.

Thing is, she doesn't want me to see her new accommodation. AT ALL. We were meant to go and drop her off as a family and I was going to take a look at her halls. She said she wanted her dad to drop her off. Fair enough I thought. But, when I suggested that I will pop down at another time she said "why do you need to see it?" This turned into a bit of a row and quite frankly I'm pissed off.

How would you react/feel?

If she’s anything like my autistic daughter she might put different people and places into “boxes”, and hate the two mixing. I expect the transition to uni is daunting for her, lots of new things and unknowns so her coping mechanisms and tolerance might be lower than at other times? Can you suggest some kind of plan with her, let her go with dad and she can take her time to adjust on her own as she wants, but could she FaceTime you the following day to give you a ‘tour’ of her room etc? It might make her feel more in control? She can phone you at a time that suits her? She can end the call and choose to show you things she wants to?

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