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"How do black people feel? How do brown people feel? How do cripples feel? How do fat people feel?"

133 replies

Temptree · Yesterday 22:34

As stated by Miriam Margolyes today, as she gets worse and worse...... and worse.

Link to previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

It was intolerable what she said on This Morning last week.
And now what she's saying today by way of defending herself is even further intolerable.

OMG Miriam Margolyes Andi Peters | Mumsnet

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters

OP posts:
MeNotYouJustMe · Yesterday 22:35

I’m confused? Where has she been quoted as saying this other stuff?

HangingOver · Yesterday 22:37

She's a cow. She once pooh poohed my medical condition on the basis that it has a long name.

PrettyLittleRose · Yesterday 22:40

Blimey, the woman needs to be stopped! Shock

InterestedDad37 · Yesterday 22:42

MeNotYouJustMe · Yesterday 22:35

I’m confused? Where has she been quoted as saying this other stuff?

Audience event in Southend to promote her book (yawn)

likelysuspect · Yesterday 22:48

Yes but in the liberal world of identity exploration, this is the sort of thing people like to examine. Usually in some diversity/equality/inclusivity workshop that bores people to tears.

She is just doing it out of context.

UnctuousUnicorns · Yesterday 22:48

Cripple here. 👋 🧑‍🦽 More context needed, OP. Though it makes me wonder how a fat Jewess might feel. 🤔

likelysuspect · Yesterday 22:51

UnctuousUnicorns · Yesterday 22:48

Cripple here. 👋 🧑‍🦽 More context needed, OP. Though it makes me wonder how a fat Jewess might feel. 🤔

I doubt she would be offended at all to ask who she is, what she is, she would probably bore people to tears with it all.

Nomura · Yesterday 23:05

UnctuousUnicorns · Yesterday 22:48

Cripple here. 👋 🧑‍🦽 More context needed, OP. Though it makes me wonder how a fat Jewess might feel. 🤔

Exactly. They’re always the type who never turn those ‘identity‑exploring’ questions on themselves. Never asking What am I? What does it mean to be white? It’s always about other people, as if everyone else is some kind of specimen they can prod and poke to see what happens, and the shock they display when people refuse to answer their odd questions just exposes how utterly disconnected they are from reality. It never occurs to them to stop, listen to themselves, and imagine how intrusive & dehumanising it would sound if they were being interrogated in the same way.
Reminds me of threads on MN (we havent had one in a while!) where black people's physical form was being discussed, down to their private parts (all in the name diversity curiosity of course), size, depth etc of course the posters were all up in arms when black posters complained to MN, even worse MN didnt think there was anything offensive at all but general curiosity, so let it stand.

Temptree · Yesterday 23:09

UnctuousUnicorns · Yesterday 22:48

Cripple here. 👋 🧑‍🦽 More context needed, OP. Though it makes me wonder how a fat Jewess might feel. 🤔

Well the context is that whilst on live daytime TV last week she was blatantly racist towards Andi Peters on several counts, along with impersonating his co-host Christine Lampard's NI accent to her face in a mocking way. And because of the backlash from the offence she has caused, she has now defended herself by using yet more offensive and discriminatory language to describe people who she apparently feels need to be othered.

OP posts:
GreatWhiteWail · Yesterday 23:22

A #BeKind person speaks.

JHound · Yesterday 23:28

I did chuckle at the one about fat people. Does she not realise she in that category too?

Anyway everytime she opens her mouth she makes it worse. What a dinosaur. And also telling how she views people. As labels.

JHound · Yesterday 23:29

Nomura · Yesterday 23:05

Exactly. They’re always the type who never turn those ‘identity‑exploring’ questions on themselves. Never asking What am I? What does it mean to be white? It’s always about other people, as if everyone else is some kind of specimen they can prod and poke to see what happens, and the shock they display when people refuse to answer their odd questions just exposes how utterly disconnected they are from reality. It never occurs to them to stop, listen to themselves, and imagine how intrusive & dehumanising it would sound if they were being interrogated in the same way.
Reminds me of threads on MN (we havent had one in a while!) where black people's physical form was being discussed, down to their private parts (all in the name diversity curiosity of course), size, depth etc of course the posters were all up in arms when black posters complained to MN, even worse MN didnt think there was anything offensive at all but general curiosity, so let it stand.

Bloody hell!!

Booboobagins · Yesterday 23:37

Why so much airtime for someone who is inconsequential.

Andy dealt with it like the pro he is.

Her views really count for didley squat so please can we stop this.

Her commemts are the ignorant ramblings of a fool. Distasteful isms, rude, patronising and outrageous questions and statements, which lead us to conclude she is a DH of the highest order.

tsmainsqueeze · Yesterday 23:38

She is utterly loathesome and I believe she knows exactly what trouble she creates and enjoys it.

Holidaymodeon · Yesterday 23:49

Nomura · Yesterday 23:05

Exactly. They’re always the type who never turn those ‘identity‑exploring’ questions on themselves. Never asking What am I? What does it mean to be white? It’s always about other people, as if everyone else is some kind of specimen they can prod and poke to see what happens, and the shock they display when people refuse to answer their odd questions just exposes how utterly disconnected they are from reality. It never occurs to them to stop, listen to themselves, and imagine how intrusive & dehumanising it would sound if they were being interrogated in the same way.
Reminds me of threads on MN (we havent had one in a while!) where black people's physical form was being discussed, down to their private parts (all in the name diversity curiosity of course), size, depth etc of course the posters were all up in arms when black posters complained to MN, even worse MN didnt think there was anything offensive at all but general curiosity, so let it stand.

Whoah I missed this 😳

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 23:50

I have huge respect for her speaking up about the genocide and have seen people saying it was a great show tonight…no mention of any offence caused.

TheFairyCaravan · Yesterday 23:55

She’s a nasty old hag. How she hasn’t been cancelled is beyond me.

notacooldad · Yesterday 23:57

I’m confused? Where has she been quoted as saying this other stuff?
I read this today i cant remember but the op is correct MG did come out with this claptrap saying she is inclusive and welcomes everyone.

I doubt she would be offended at all to ask who she is, what she is, she would probably bore people to tears with it all
Indeed!

She is utterly loathesome and I believe she knows exactly what trouble she creates and enjoys it
I have been saying this for years. The "outrageous ' stories such as giving 3 blokes a hand job in one evening was a particular low but she plays to the audience

Anarchy99 · Today 00:05

She thinks that if she uses the word cunt enough on the telly, people will think she’s wonderfully eccentric.

I was really quite shocked about the Andy Peters thing. To say what she said and then to double down should result in her being completely cancelled.

Vile woman.

Nomura · Today 00:38

Holidaymodeon · Yesterday 23:49

Whoah I missed this 😳

Oh, you must have missed the glorious MN classics, the ones where posters confidently quoted ‘scientific research’ about black women’s bodies, explaining our buttocks as some kind of evolutionary adaptation for sexual use. Black women reading in real time as we were dissected like lab specimens. That’s exactly what MM reminds me of: wide‑eyed, fake innocent bewilderment when people don’t indulge their racial curiosity (Andy was extremely professional as well as gracious to her).They genuinely can’t imagine how grotesque it would sound if they were being examined in the same way.”

hattie43 · Today 05:43

Maybe because she’s a fat Jewish lesbian she feels she has the right to talk about other minorities. Either way I’ve never liked her . Being offensive I under the guise of little ol lady couldn’t possibly be horrible 😪

Stormwhale · Today 05:49

Nomura · Today 00:38

Oh, you must have missed the glorious MN classics, the ones where posters confidently quoted ‘scientific research’ about black women’s bodies, explaining our buttocks as some kind of evolutionary adaptation for sexual use. Black women reading in real time as we were dissected like lab specimens. That’s exactly what MM reminds me of: wide‑eyed, fake innocent bewilderment when people don’t indulge their racial curiosity (Andy was extremely professional as well as gracious to her).They genuinely can’t imagine how grotesque it would sound if they were being examined in the same way.”

I totally understand that this is totally innapropriate in person, but on a message board where people come to debate ideas, learn new view points, discuss current research and understanding of various topics… is it not possible to have an educational conversation about these things or does it need to be avoided totally? I feel it should not be taboo, but definitely handled respectfully, which it doesn’t seem to have been previously.

BooksandSlippers · Today 05:52

I've never heard of her, she sounds s bit like that desperate Katie Hopkins who used to say controversial and racist things for attention. Some people are just born unkind.

InterestedDad37 · Today 06:09

Margolyes is not unintelligent, but she is horribly ignorant. I believe she doesn't understand why people find how she conducted herself on this show offensive.

Satisfiedwithanapple · Today 06:13

The thing I don’t quite understand is surely most people generally choose to avoid randomly offending other people for no reason at all? I guess the push towards free speech gives some the opportunity to show the world who they really are.