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To be a bit cheesed off by this window display?

341 replies

Utterlybananas333 · 29/07/2026 23:34

Saw this on the high road today. My daughter asked what it meant bless her. The rest of the display on the other side included cross dressing obscene mannequins who had large breasts and moustaches etc. This was a charity shop that supports homelessness.

To be a bit cheesed off by this window display?
To be a bit cheesed off by this window display?
OP posts:
SorrellNightwind · 30/07/2026 10:09

saveforthat · 30/07/2026 09:22

This. I'd like to see the official stats on that. I see lots of homeless people, I've not seen one trans homeless person.

Personally I've never looked closely enough to see if they are trans?

Do you? Do you ask every homeless person you see? "Hey - are you trans?"

They're not exactly presenting in their best bib and tucker are they?

saveforthat · 30/07/2026 10:52

SorrellNightwind · 30/07/2026 10:09

Personally I've never looked closely enough to see if they are trans?

Do you? Do you ask every homeless person you see? "Hey - are you trans?"

They're not exactly presenting in their best bib and tucker are they?

You don't have to look that closely though do you? Or are you one of those people who pretend that some men can "pass" as women?

Switcher · 30/07/2026 10:53

It's all meaningless crap I just avoid.

Whosthetabbynow · 30/07/2026 10:57

I’d just think “fuck sake” and carry on walking.

Theatreobsessed · 30/07/2026 11:04

I haven’t looked at the stats but the reason you will see more cis than trans people homeless is because there are more cis people. But if you are trans you are more likely to be discriminated against (as evidenced by this very thread) and therefor much more likely to be kicked out of home or refused tenancies etc.

people’s hate towards trans people is really upsetting

Ponoka7 · 30/07/2026 11:05

I am anti self I.D etc, but that statement is actually correct. Biology was never binary. Biology matters, sex matters. Gender is a social construct. Those mannequins don't have genitals. They can wear what they want.

KitRange · 30/07/2026 11:09

Theatreobsessed · 30/07/2026 11:04

I haven’t looked at the stats but the reason you will see more cis than trans people homeless is because there are more cis people. But if you are trans you are more likely to be discriminated against (as evidenced by this very thread) and therefor much more likely to be kicked out of home or refused tenancies etc.

people’s hate towards trans people is really upsetting

This is what people are missing, critical thinking.

It isn't that more of the people who are homeless are trans as opposed to cis, it is that the percentage of trans people homeless compared to cis is higher.

The numbers add up when you think about it correctly in correlation rather than 'omg I see more cis people therefore thats the answer'.

IrnBruAndDietCoke · 30/07/2026 11:15

I mean the stats on trans homelessness quoted upthread are utterly meaningless given that they’re self-identifying as having been homeless at some point in their lives and they’re also self identifying as something they’re not so who’s to say what the truth is? 🤔 All the trans people I’ve ever met were middle class and wouldn’t really understand if you tried to explain that their “lived experience” staying on a pal’s cosy sofa in a place with central heating and electricity to save a few quid during the uni break wasn’t the same as someone sleeping on the streets with no end in sight or means of escape.

emmadoher · 30/07/2026 11:24

Aco8171 · 29/07/2026 23:42

What an excellent opportunity to teach your daughter about the world and inclusivity and how we are all different etc, I can only assume you didn’t take this opportunity given your post.

This is not inclusivity this is brainwashing!

grasschunks · 30/07/2026 11:26

Giftspread · 29/07/2026 23:55

Trans people are much more likely to expereince homelessness so its relevant to the charity.

Actually biological women are more likely to experience homelessness in the UK.

Perhaps they could do a display for women.

Winter42 · 30/07/2026 11:29

The sign is scientifically correct though to be fair.

grasschunks · 30/07/2026 11:31

Aco8171 · 29/07/2026 23:42

What an excellent opportunity to teach your daughter about the world and inclusivity and how we are all different etc, I can only assume you didn’t take this opportunity given your post.

teach her what?

The sign saying ‘biology was never binary’ with a picture of surgically removed breast scars? Teach her what exactly? Biology is binary but some people say it’s not and have body parts removed to prove that it is not?

FredBares · 30/07/2026 11:32

Urgh how horrible. Let’s hope they only keep it for a while. Intrusive crap.

MagpiePi · 30/07/2026 11:33

Winter42 · 30/07/2026 11:29

The sign is scientifically correct though to be fair.

Oh dear. 😂

I think you'll find that human aka mammalian biology has always been binary.

Womanofcustard · 30/07/2026 11:41

OP, what is the charity being supported by this shop (so I can avoid donating to them)?

AgedPudding · 30/07/2026 11:41

I'm an avid charity shopper but I'd roll my eyes and walk on by. They're supposed to be attracting customers, not putting them off.

KitRange · 30/07/2026 11:43

emmadoher · 30/07/2026 11:24

This is not inclusivity this is brainwashing!

Oh please, please inform us of how this is brainwashing?

We see adverts for pepsi or mcdonalds or whatever else every single day and yet we aren't all walking around basing our lives around these.

People existing changes absolutely nothing about your life, those people being able to be open and free still changes absolutely nothing about your life.

The only way it will impact you is if you are a busy body who has to make everyone elses lives their business, is that how you are?

grasschunks · 30/07/2026 11:45

KitRange · 30/07/2026 11:09

This is what people are missing, critical thinking.

It isn't that more of the people who are homeless are trans as opposed to cis, it is that the percentage of trans people homeless compared to cis is higher.

The numbers add up when you think about it correctly in correlation rather than 'omg I see more cis people therefore thats the answer'.

You are also missing critical thinking.

"Around 67% of people experiencing homelessness have a current mental health disorder, with a lifetime prevalence of 77% among this population"

People with Autism account for 20.8% of homeless - despite making up only 1% of the population Homeless Statistics 20.8% of homeless have Autism (8. Churchard 2019; National Library of Medicine)

12.3% of homeless are confirmed Autistic (8. Churchard 2019; National Library of Medicine)

People who do not identify with the sex their biological sex are three to six times as likely to be autistic.

KitRange · 30/07/2026 11:47

MagpiePi · 30/07/2026 11:33

Oh dear. 😂

I think you'll find that human aka mammalian biology has always been binary.

mammalian biology is only binary at the level of gametes which is a reproductive cell containing a single set of unprepared chromosomes.

The development of genetic, hormonal and anatomical sex characteristics is not binary in any way.

However, there are frequent chromosomal variations ie the platypus which has a complex 5 pair chromosome system.

In humans we see non binary development which shows us that physical anatomy is not a flip switch.

Gender, which is not biology as it is a social construct, is not the same as sex which is the biological aspect and non binary.

grasschunks · 30/07/2026 11:50

KitRange · 30/07/2026 10:06

Well biology isn't binary, biological sex and gender are too different things.

I really don't see the issue with this.

Plenty of women with breasts grow facial hair, just society has told us we should get rid of it and makes us embarrassed to have it.

In addition, people have cross dressed for hundreds of years, no one thinks twice about it in the panto.

I think you could have used this as a teaching moment to your child that we accept people how they are and for who they want to be, because it has absolutely no impact on our lives but it means they get to live happy ones.

If sex and gender are two different things why do we use the word ‘woman’ which means female biological sex to describe a biological man’s gender.

make it make sense.

grasschunks · 30/07/2026 11:56

KitRange · 30/07/2026 11:47

mammalian biology is only binary at the level of gametes which is a reproductive cell containing a single set of unprepared chromosomes.

The development of genetic, hormonal and anatomical sex characteristics is not binary in any way.

However, there are frequent chromosomal variations ie the platypus which has a complex 5 pair chromosome system.

In humans we see non binary development which shows us that physical anatomy is not a flip switch.

Gender, which is not biology as it is a social construct, is not the same as sex which is the biological aspect and non binary.

We are not Platypus we are humans.

Sex is binary.

Disorders in sexually development, such as a micro penis, doesn’t mean that a male is female or a third sex.

Co-joined twins do not prove humans have either one or two heads. Jesus wept. it’s not difficult.

orangegato · 30/07/2026 11:57

Giftspread · 29/07/2026 23:55

Trans people are much more likely to expereince homelessness so its relevant to the charity.

You sure? Pretty sure 100% of the men I’ve seen sat in doorways or sleeping on park benches didn’t have dresses on.

MagpiePi · 30/07/2026 11:58

KitRange · 30/07/2026 11:47

mammalian biology is only binary at the level of gametes which is a reproductive cell containing a single set of unprepared chromosomes.

The development of genetic, hormonal and anatomical sex characteristics is not binary in any way.

However, there are frequent chromosomal variations ie the platypus which has a complex 5 pair chromosome system.

In humans we see non binary development which shows us that physical anatomy is not a flip switch.

Gender, which is not biology as it is a social construct, is not the same as sex which is the biological aspect and non binary.

Well, yes, I agree. Human biology as whole is not binary, think leg length or hair colour, but I think the sign in the shop window was alluding to sex, as in male/female, which is binary. You can get disorders of sexual development, but they are still either male or female and are not discrete sexes in their own right.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/07/2026 12:01

Theatreobsessed · 30/07/2026 11:04

I haven’t looked at the stats but the reason you will see more cis than trans people homeless is because there are more cis people. But if you are trans you are more likely to be discriminated against (as evidenced by this very thread) and therefor much more likely to be kicked out of home or refused tenancies etc.

people’s hate towards trans people is really upsetting

Can you give examples of what you think is 'hate'? Disagreement is not hate. Scepticism about unsubstantiated claims is not hate either.

'Biology was never binary' is a very odd form of words, but if the picture is of a topless woman who's had a mastectomy I suppose it's meant to indicate the totally unscientific view that unlike all the other mammals humans come in more than two sexes. It's been said innumerable times but here we go again - some people have disorders of sexual development. They used to be called intersex. The people affected, their loved ones and the medical and scientific professionals working with them and researching their conditions have agreed that DSD is a better term because it doesn't imply that someone with a DSD falls somewhere between male and female. All DSDs are sex-specific.

Biological sex is binary because there are only two gametes, i.e. sex cells - eggs and sperm. Every human being in existence is on track from conception, when you get your lifetime complement of chromosomes, i.e. all your genes, to have a body organised around producing one, and only one, of these gametes. If you have the SRY gene you are on track to be male and produce sperm after puberty. If you don't you are on track to be female and have a far more complicated body and reproductive system. Your lifetime supply of ova will already be in your ovaries when you are born, you will have a womb, vagina etc, you will have breasts constructed differently from male breasts, you will go through female puberty, after which you start having periods and your body should be capable of pregnancy, birth and lactation.

'Being capable of' doesn't mean 'you have to do this, you have to have these body parts, or you are not properly female/male'. Nobody is any more human or any more female or male than anyone else because of their reproductive status or choices or because of their health.

But that leads us onto the can of worms which is gender and all the silly meaningless stereotypes and expectations imposed on us because of our sex. Lots of us in older generations long ago challenged all this and broke some of this stuff down, only to see younger generations behaving as if being gender nonconforming is somehow a sign of having a male brain in a female body or vice versa (an utterly meaningless statement for a start). It is an absolute tragedy that some unhappy young people have convinced themselves that they can solve all their problems by identifying as something they're not and never will be, and having irreversible surgery and hormone treatment to try to make themselves look a bit more like the opposite sex, leading to infertility and lifelong health problems, affecting young women particularly badly.

Fortunately it sounds as if children and teenagers coming up through schools now are reacting strongly against this and this incredibly destructive fad may be on the way out. It can't come soon enough for me.

orangegato · 30/07/2026 12:02

If I had a bag of stuff I was about to donate I’d walk right out and take it somewhere else. Is there no element of society that isn’t poisoned by this trans stuff? For such a tiny portion of the population why is so much about them? Male entitlement at play as always.