To be a bit cheesed off by this window display?

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Saw this on the high road today. My daughter asked what it meant bless her. The rest of the display on the other side included cross dressing obscene mannequins who had large breasts and moustaches etc. This was a charity shop that supports homelessness.

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Go on then - quantify it.

Educate all we bigoted, violent, genocide-inducing TERFs.

Don't worry about boring us, we love to pore over well evidenced peer-reviewed citations to help us become educated handmaidens.

I don't doubt that there are some - a minute few - who suffer from a mental illness that induces genuine genderdysphoria. It sounds as if you know a considerable amount of these individuals; it will be refreshing and helpful to those of us who are hard-wired evil 'cis' women to hear their plea.

Go.

Erm..... They are...... Blaire White.

Name another

that doesn’t change the fact that some ciswomen have breast and facial hair. so it’s only obscene if it’s a trans person,…and how do you know if it is a trans person or not by looking? you could easily be looking at a ciswoman and thinking she is obscene.

It's to do with them being kicked out of the family household when they come out as Trans.

Among the middle aged men who make up a lot of transpeople, I'd assume they move out when they come out - I suppose you could say a wife "threw them out" but it would be a deal breaker for many marriages.

"biology was never binary" with a drawing of... is that a woman with mastectomy scars? so... they are saying sex isn't binary, with a pic of a woman with her breasts cut off made to look like... a man? that's rather, binary... it's rather as if, there are two sexes.

The word "ciswoman" is obscene.

This. I wouldn't care if DS came to me when he's older and told me he fancies boys. I would be very concerned if he said he wants to be a girl and change his name to Claire or something.

A side issue, but us mammals not being able to accurately determine the sex of another human is so rare (amongst women at least - suspect it is about safety as well as reproduction) and yet people claim it so often on MN! It's fascinating. Of those that claim it who are a) being truthful and b) women, I'd be (genuinely) interested in whether there are co- morbidities with anything else?

For example I have a friend who is almost entirely face - blind. They can't recognise people they know outside of context. They are also highly intelligent, and very dyslexic.

Actually, from what I hear in my support group for parents of trans kids, the kids themselves mostly initiate the estrangement from their families. They run towards new glitter families where there is no genuine discussion or critical thinking. Reddit posts etc tell trans youth that if their parents don’t affirm them then they want them dead, which is complete nonsense but sadly some autistic kids take this literally.
Estrangement seems to be a trend happening more widely in society where young people seem to have lost any sense of responsibility and are cutting off their families.
Be in no doubt that the mums and dads keep the door wide open for these kids and very much welcome any contact from their estranged child.
Sadly, homelessness is strongly linked to mental illness.

Interesting…..”the genuine trans people” “real trans” as opposed to what? Is there a hierarchy within the trans world, so not the utopia based on equality it likes to portray itself to be, but a bullying, fractured cult maybe.

Are the ones with the mutilated bodies and shattered lives at the top of the pile, or the ones that “pass” and think they are fooling people the supreme leader 🙄

I have yet to see a man dressing as a woman that fools anybody, normally the ghastly dress sense, the Adam’s Apple, the size of their hands, the deeper voice, strange mannerisms, muscle distribution, size of feet, height…….I could go on.

At the heart of this is the biological fact, a woman is a woman and a man is a man. That cannot be changed.

Balanced or ill informed? My experience is that many people have swallowed the TRA kool aid because it is sweetened with be kind and flavoured with artificial moral glow enhancers and sequins , whereas the biological reality kool aid can be a bit heavy on the serious science stuff which a lot of people find hard to digest.

I'd have a chat and explain that you don't like him just turning up,and not to do that.Then you will see if he respects your wishes,and go from there...but if you are not comfortable with the age gap,it would be better for both of you if you call it a day sooner rather than later

That sanctimonious reply definitely belongs in FWR. Especially the 'kool aid' bit.

I think swallowing koolaid is a reasonable analogy for people who accept the lies that have been told to children about changing sex, the effects of hormone treatment on young bodies, the poor results offered by radical surgery to remove healthy body parts, and the damage done to young confused teens who are told that their very real issues of asd, anorexia, bulimia depression and anxiety will be sorted by gender woo. Bit there you go. You do you. I will carry on trying to tell the truth.

He is a trans woman and they address him as Miss. They also know he is trans so not an actual woman. Some (a lot of) pupils make fun of him / her and my dc thinks that's not nice. Nonetheless, my dc knows that that this teacher is actually a "he" but respects their wish to be addresses as Miss.

I think it is these kids who will turn this around. It seems to me that the younger kids do not believe in this ideology, unlike those who grew up during Covid. They consider the kids identifying as trans to be autistic and most likely mentally ill.
It was a big trend in secondary schools a few years ago with an unusually high number of kids identifying as trans. That seems to be turning around now but sadly autistic kids have been left behind 😢

Miranda Yardley?

@Kalalilydo you work in a secondary school or with young adults? I'm curious, what does actually happen to the kids who come out as trans or non binary in school. Do they announce a reversal or just skulk away embarrassed, I know some stick with it. I've often wondered this.

Not seen a thing from them in years and social media is private. When I see some really egregious posts on Twitter or Blue Sky or signs being held up at marches and speeches being made from the stage, where’s the counter? Where is the trans charity or organisation that says we don’t agree with those guys over there giving us a bad name?!

Buck angel

I am the mum of a trans identifying youth with younger children in secondary school My siblings and a number of close friends work in schools.
My experience so far is that some trans identifying kids change name more than once. Assuming the school doesn’t give it any attention the other kids seem to go along with it, may think it’s a bit ridiculous but no big deal. I don’t think there are any big announcements and summer holidays are a good opportunity to reset.

The deeply entrenched kids take years to desist/detransition. I think in these cases moving school might be an easier option than rolling back on years of transition.

Miranda Yardley doesn't even have a Wikipedia page, let alone publicity, unlike so many trans rights activists. (Wikipedia was captured early.) The last thing I can find by her (or him; Miranda said he was a man in spite of having transitioned, at one point?) was in 2023.

Seethlaw seems to have worked out that trans rights activism is doing a lot of no good to a lot of people. But I wouldn't encourage standing up to be counted, really. Given the way TRAs behave, it's dangerous.