To ask why there are no riots?

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Where are the rioters today? If the roles were reversed and a man of colour was going out and terrorising white people it would be the number one story on the BBC and Herr Farage would be calling for action on the streets. Right now it's the sixth story on the BBC.

Similarly, with the atrocious and heartbreaking case of the baby who was abused and murdered. If the perpetrators hadn't been white there would have been bedlam on the streets by 'degenerate thugs concerned citizens'. The issue is clearly men, but rabid racists, the media and the malign agitators who whip them up into a frenzy never seem to be outraged when it's one of their own.

BBC News - Man charged after suspected anti-Muslim attacks in Edinburgh
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2xg6lwz5jo

Which information?

I can tell you that the grooming and abuse is absolutely not sitting just in one race. It’s men of all creeds and colours.

This point really has been done to death by people who don’t want the major problem to be properly addressed but I’ll try again.

No one is denying that grooming/rape gangs are limited to one race or religion. The issue is that specifically Muslim men originating from Pakistan and Bangladesh have not only been committing these heinous crimes with a racist aggravator (so should also be prosecuted as hate crime) but the vast majority have still not been prosecuted because as it turns out the police are not only complicit in allowing these crimes to continue for years with impunity, but some were allegedly involved in the rapes.

As I have previously pointed out, the government are not only reluctant to order proper investigations into this vast number of heinous crimes, but were actively trying to hamper investigations by ordering the destruction of vital paperwork.

All the while downplaying and failing to act on the recommendations of the Casey report.

How many white grooming gangs do you know that have this level of institutional protection?

It’s men of all creeds and colours.

As an aside, this is an interesting claim. Do you have any evidence that Chinese men have a propensity for this type of crime? Or Mongolian men? I like to avoid such blanket accusations generally.

According to the BBC report, there were some non serious injuries but they weren’t even all Muslim.

I suspect because a lot of the rioters (and riot sympathisers) support what this man was doing.

That’s clear on all the news articles on this topic (and the riots in Belfast too.)

A lot of people are fine with ethno / racial / religion related attacks on innocent people depending on who the victims (and especially the perpetrators) are.

Yes, this is what's causing the division, the activities of the grooming gangs, the scale of the abuse and the inaction, denial and cover-up by people in authority. It's surprising there's been no rioting about it, maybe because riots occur when it's one incident and the authorities are seen as corrupt or negligent.

Labour have been terrible over this issue, with a few notable exceptions.

I abhor and fully condemn the actions of those grooming gangs. I want them to be removed from society so that they are not able to repeat these behaviours

Do you understand the reasons why the specific type of grooming gangs have not been removed from society?

Other countries are in front of us in this respect and others are behind.

So if men from the countries that are behind us come here to settle, do you think they should be subject to the same laws and standards as all other men? Do you think if those men fail to abide by our laws we should be able to deport them?

This then is leading to racist attacks on the ground and innocent people are living in fear and being harmed.

I think by numbers, the majority of the racist attacks are on young white girls still falling victim to the grooming gangs. So prosecuting those perpetrators might be a first step. Don’t you think?

I also believe that we are in WWIII and repeating the history that led to WWII and that every single one of us has a duty to try and avoid things panning out the same way.

Well yes. Do you think that left wing commentators and our government yelling ‘racist’ or ‘far right’ at everyone who has an opinion on immigration is helping with that?

It would be a huge boost for the confidence of ALL law abiding citizens, if the men specifically targeting white girls for rape and torture were actually going to be prosecuted.

It would start to weaken the argument for two tier policing wouldn’t it?

Too hot to riot and the football is on.

Some great posts @CornishDaughteroftheDawn

Gosh this thread is starting to really go for it with the anti Brit blanket accusations and negative generalisations today.

We just need someone to refer to us as gammons and it will be full house.

You have spectacularly missed the point. The vast majority of people are anti violent attacks on anyone. We are just asking for equal treatment. The soon to be former PM is a perfect example of the unequal treatment.

”Anti-Brit”

I don’t think there is anything inherently British in supporting machete attacks on people due to their faith.

It’s disturbing you do.

It would be a huge boost for the confidence of ALL law abiding citizens, if the men specifically targeting white girls for rape and torture were actually going to be prosecuted.

It would start to weaken the argument for two tier policing wouldn’t it?

If 1.5 - 2% of these men are convicted and prosecuted then there is no 2 tier policing. Do you know what % of men from these grooming gangs are convicted and prosecuted?

I don't think we want to go down that road of comparing violent attacks, using screwdrivers, for example, do we? As for the machete attacks, hmmmm. I believe police directed a group of Muslims to restore their machetes in a mosque. I don't think they were going out to use them for non violent purposes.

Who is comparing violent attacks? What are you talking about. Machetes in mosques? What?

None of your post makes any sense whatsoever. I assume you have quoted the wrong person.

Because no-one has incited them to do so. Political riots typically start off as demonstrations, that either get out of hand, or were planned as cover for a riot from the start. They do not happen spontaneously - they require organisation, recruitment, and incitement. These days that happens on social media - usually with the instigators staying well out of the way of the resulting mayhem.

No influential figures with millions of followers inciting a political riot, no riot.

Of course we have other sorts of riots: football-related, bored teens etc. But I suspect OP was specifically asking about political riots.

You don't recall a police officer telling Muslims carrying machetes, to hide them in their mosque. It happened in Sraffordshire in 2024 and the officer was reprimanded because it was found he had told the Muslims to hide them to prevent arresting them. Yes, I did mean to quote you. I was addressing your reference to machetes attacks on different faiths.

No I don’t recall this and have zero idea what this has to do with any of my posts.

In the horrific case of the baby, there's plenty of people who are angry about that believe me.
Both against the monsters who killed him and those who had the power to do something who couldn't see it,) because they were too stupid) or too cowardly to say anything.

I wish the monsters who killed him all the pain in the world and may those who didn't see the obvious or too cowardly to do anything about it feel guilt and have sleepless nights forever more. Forever more.

No point me rioting about it though.

Yes, I recall this, another example of two tier policing.

Unfortunately some posters on MN only pay attention to news items that reinforce their beliefs.

How did you get that when I said most people are anti violent attacks?

You really stoop low in your ridiculous ‘interpretations’ of my comments.

You accused my post of being “anti-British” for stating that the lack of riots was likely due to rioters and rioter supports, supporting this attack.

Which suggests you think there is something inherently British about supporting these attacks. It’s not an interpretation when you made such a silly connection.

(FWIW I think making rioting or support for rioting about Britishness was a nonsense thing to say.)

You accused my post of being “anti-British” for stating that the lack of riots was likely due to rioters and rioter supports, supporting this attack.

I’m still mystified at your workings.

Yes, I called you anti British for claiming that a lot of these people support a man attacking people with a machete. You also claimed that ‘a lot of people were fine’ with attacks on innocent people.

That is a disgusting and unfounded negative generalisation that you only get away with because you are attacking British people. If anyone else made a similar negative generalisation about any other ethnic group the police would be on their doorstep already.

You seem unable or unwilling to understand that there are no riots because there is no issue with justice being seen to be done. In fact the soon to be former PM has already set himself up as judge and jury and he has has been found guilty. Who needs due process when you have Mr Starmer on the case?

Maybe he could do the same and speed up the grooming gangs prosecutions, oh wait…

I suspect because a lot of the rioters (and riot sympathisers) support what this man was doing.
That’s clear on all the news articles on this topic (and the riots in Belfast too.)
A lot of people are fine with ethno / racial / religion related attacks on innocent people depending on who the victims (and especially the perpetrators) are.

I agree that's a very serious accusation to make and libellous.

That is a disgusting and unfounded negative generalisation that you only get away with because you are attacking British people. If anyone else made a similar negative generalisation about any other ethnic group the police would be on their doorstep already.

Since when is 'British' an ethnic group? There are black, white, brown people from Britain.

Libellous against the British ethnic group by a Brit? Good luck finding a lawyer to fight that libel case in court for you.

If only the very same poster hadn't followed up with an open admission that they are "uncomfortable" around ethnic minorities, then it would look a lot less like you are just desperately bending over backwards in an attempt to defend a blatant racist.

Stop the press, ‘Muslims stole my swan’ !!!