To ask why there are no riots?

[Firetreev]

Where are the rioters today? If the roles were reversed and a man of colour was going out and terrorising white people it would be the number one story on the BBC and Herr Farage would be calling for action on the streets. Right now it's the sixth story on the BBC.

Similarly, with the atrocious and heartbreaking case of the baby who was abused and murdered. If the perpetrators hadn't been white there would have been bedlam on the streets by 'degenerate thugs concerned citizens'. The issue is clearly men, but rabid racists, the media and the malign agitators who whip them up into a frenzy never seem to be outraged when it's one of their own.

BBC News - Man charged after suspected anti-Muslim attacks in Edinburgh
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2xg6lwz5jo

Wrong, you must have missed the recent very similar attack in Edinburgh by an asylum seeker. There were no riots then either, just a peaceful protest by locals. There were also no comments from the prime minister and no MN threads.

Yes. A more pertinent question OP could have asked is ‘why are there no riots’ about this and the facts that many of these racist perpetrators remain unprosecuted?

In fact the government have deliberately made prosecution harder by allowing the destruction of many of the relevant documents.

And let’s think about why the total number of victims remains contested but could be up to 250,000 cases in the limited information available. It is because no one has bothered to investigate the majority of them.

Imagine the government’s reaction if a load of white men were targeting Muslim girls for rape and torture? Why don’t our girls even get a police investigation and their paperwork stored?

This whole situation on it’s own and the way it is treated by the government is a billion times more divisive and destructive to our society than any so called ‘right wing’ activists could dream up.

But we’re the bad guys right @Firetreev ?

before the troops arrived Germany was full of Nazis. when they arrived there were none.

However you ask why no riots when you probably mean why no protests.

The answer is no one wants to suggest locking up the deranged as there's so many people who need locking up. Anyone who believes men can turn into women are a danger to society. Should we lock them.up?
The mentally unstable who go on to hurt and kill need locking up but we've spent Forty years stopping doing that

Plenty of Muslim people celebrated the 911 attacks. During the Fires in Hollywood the comments section of videos on facebook were full of people with arabic names with God is great/want to see America destroyed etc. Racism and taking pleasure from other people misfortunes is far from a uniquely white experience.

Edit if you doubt this you can still see the videos on youtube or the comments on posts about the 2025 wildfires in LA.

Or why no media coverage even, or many posts except to excuse it.

Do you mean like Keir Starmer and his government creating division and tension with his demonstrably different actions depending on the ethnicity/religion of perpetrators and victims?

dog whistling the racism that lurks beneath the surface of more white people than I want to imagine

Interesting negative generalisation against white people though. Ironic that you’re making accusations against us of racism.

And your view on the muslim rape report ?

Yes, I feel like much of the public imagine that the grooming gangs have a) been stopping and b) largely been prosecuted.

Sadly they are wrong on both counts.

I must admit, before it was brought to my attention more recently I assumed the same, because what civilised society would refuse to investigate and prosecute such heinous acts against so many vulnerable young girls? After all the terrible points raised in the Casey report and warm words from the government I thought that maybe something would happen.

Something did happen early this year - but it was the government ordering the deletion of millions of magistrates' court archives that contained case records used to track grooming gangs. They were told of the urgent issues with this but they took months to order the retention of grooming gangs documents during which time it is likely that large quantities of information was already lost.

It makes me wonder what is going on in people’s minds when they wave all this away and refuse to even see the horrendous racism and behaviour around this. They then appear to demonise all white people who object. I can’t understand their thinking.

‘Us’?

And by ‘us’ you mean?

Where are you getting your information from? What makes you trust it?

The grooming gangs are horrific and I am in full agreement that any men using abusing vulnerable girls in this way should have the full force of the law brought upon them.

But as someone who has worked with those vulnerable cohorts of girls, I can tell you that the grooming and abuse is absolutely not sitting just in one race. It’s men of all creeds and colours.

What do you think that posts like yours do when you use the obvious lines like 'where's the riot' and put all of this down to racism. You're helping to create a divide.

Totally agree. Violence only matters if white folk are the victims.

From the link, the man arrested appears to have smashed few windows.

Not quite the same level as trying to hack a stranger’s head off in a public street.

They won't let that get in the way of an opportunity to ask 'where's the rioters today'?.

It's such a ridiculous question because MOST crimes go by without riots, whether they are committed by immigrants or not, it's only a very very rare crime that leads to riots.

But of course in this imaginary world they've created in their head, people are so racist that they riot every time an immigrant does anything wrong.

Two or more truths can exist at once.

I abhor and fully condemn the actions of those grooming gangs. I want them to be removed from society so that they are not able to repeat these behaviours. I would want a life sentence given because I think living with the trauma of having been SA in any way can be a life sentence in itself. Memories can be lived with and recovered from, but never erased.

I also believe that the abuse of vulnerable girls and women is not just located in one group of society. I believe that there has been a long history of women being seen as the property of men and it isn’t that long ago that in this country (UK), laws have changed to protect women in marriages from physical and S abuse. Other countries are in front of us in this respect and others are behind. We probably need even more robust laws to tackle violence and abuse against women. But it is laws and the law, and the best use of and development of that, that is needed. Not racist thuggery.

I also believe that some rich and powerful people are using racism, stirring up division and hate and using the experiences of victims to further their own agenda. Get more rich and powerful. They are creating a narrative that is allowing people to feel that they can ‘other’ certain races/cultures/religions and demean and condemn them as a whole, using the actions of a few to bolster that approach. This then is leading to racist attacks on the ground and innocent people are living in fear and being harmed.

I also believe that we are in WWIII and repeating the history that led to WWII and that every single one of us has a duty to try and avoid things panning out the same way.

That was awful. Crazy men indoctrinated by online radicals everywhere.
It is terrifying.
That aside, I think the thread title doesn’t help as the far left or far right fanning the flames is creating this division. On any social media story about a despicable attack from a white person has comments after comment about “Where are the riots” etc. Not helpful.
You are doing what they are doing on the other side of the coin. It is incitement to hate and defend your opinion.

I am sure he has mental health issues. I am sure that is the excuse used for the people who usually kill little girls and stabbing men in the eyes. Why don't you organise a march?

lol they did they had and have no regard for anyone else but themselves. If they took notice they’d of seen my child was stood close to the swans etc and was looking and talking about them to me and my mother. Then in comes that group directly in front of us so they were around 3 steps from the swans and didn’t give a flying shit so I went round them again and to add to this if they were stood before me there I would not of let myself or my child step infront and not care that they were stood observing first. It’s common knowledge you do that. Not to mention the fully grown adult groups of them on days out at the zoo and standing infront of several children taking forever to observe and take pictures without a care in the world for children and I’m not talking about my own in this situation only as we are all entitled to enjoy days out but again they just seem to never think of others form what I’ve observed

‘Them’.

Wow. Your racist is fully on show isn’t it.

It really is the one thing I will be glad to see the back of with Starmer. The two tier accusations didn't just come from nowhere. That will be his legacy.

That's all you can muster from that post!

I focused on the bit that interests me.

Here we go. Is this another "I live next door to an asylum hotel"? Downplay the pattern all you want, it remains a problem.

I sm sure you did. One word out of a lengthy informative post.

Not you.