How did Tyson Fury’s daughter get married at 16?

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I thought they changed the law and you had to be 18 in the UK?

All the comments about it's nobody's business - the Furys repeatedly put themselves in the press for attention. If nobody took any notice they'd be, well, furious perhaps. They can't have it all ways.

I've never heard of that either. Imagine thinking that, never mind saying it. This whole thread has been astonishing in that regard.

Nor me. But then I would rather be a ‘ho’ than some Stepford wife whose job is to serve her man and kids.

If traveller men think that way about non traveller women, what are the chances that they have the same disrespect for women in their own culture?

Misogynist cunts are misogynist cunts.

You say that as if non traveller women don't get anything out of it. I would have loved to have a tryst with a young traveller buck when I was young and in my early 20's. Nothing exciting like that happened in my boring town, we had to make do with useless English lads.

That’s what I mean when I say our girls are protected from that because they’re not put in situations where that would happen. Their has been cases with t&g where the girls have been raped by someone close in their family, recently there’s been a whole case in Ireland where a group of sisters went to court over their father but it’s very very rare in our community.

You only know that it is rare for it to be reported in your community. That isn’t the same thing. Do you honestly think that a culture that considers non travellers to be whores and traveller girls to be property is really going to be respectful? Of course it happens more than you think - that’s the case in every community

But I guess it won’t happen to any of you so the lack of legal protection is fine

The misogyny and blaming of women on this thread is off the scale.
Rape happens in every culture because men rape. And it is vastly underreported in some cultures- including my own- because of the virgin-whore concept so aptly demonstrated on this thread.

I used to work in a large computer retail shop, and when travellers moved in the shop had to shut until they were moved on. The number of thefts and verbal assault was shocking. I also know of pubs that choose to close and lose a whole weekend day's takings if there's a traveller funeral passing by, because again, it's cheaper than repairing the damage.

Travellers don't really help their own public image tbh. It's hysterical that anyone from a traveller background would dare criticise how settled folk raise their children.

You're practically slavering at the mouth at the thought of non-traveller and non-gypsy women and girls being raped. Not sure how that aligns with the lofty moral high ground you seem to have perched yourself on.

My friend owned a butchers shop and had the same issues

I’m talking about girls before they are married. They don’t get into situations where things like that can happen. No drinking, drugs, falling out of clubs. Our children go out in groups they are barely out and about on their own.

Funny how that’s the only bit you’ve picked up on. If the shoes fits I suppose..

It’s pretty rare for women to report that in Afghanistan too…. I wonder why? Hint, it’s not because it doesn’t happen!

Absolutely, it's horrific. It's not the behaviour of women and girls that needs to be questioned here.
It's the behaviour of men. Most girls and women are raped by men they know.

Well yes, because while I might disagree with your views on splitting bills or childcare, I don't find them quite as distasteful as your views on rape, or the causes thereof. So your attempt at 'I know you are but what am I!!!!!'-ing doesn't really work.

That doesn’t even make sense.

You clearly are blaming women and girls for going out. Men rape. And I am willing to bet that there are just as many sexual predators in your culture as any other.

A final fact to end the thread: the suicide rate for traveller women in the UK is five times higher than the rate in the rest of the female population. Is that a sign of an emotionally happy, supportive and non-misogynistic society?

That says it all…

That is shocking. I've noticed that my local Council have a "safe space" and support specifically for Traveller women who are victims of abuse.

So glad this thread is ending. Ive often thought about doing an ama but that's never going to go well so that's not happening.

Yes, the last one certainly didn't go well.

'Bella' has been trolling around a number of threads. Not worth your time.

Yes men do rape, so do your job and look after them.

It's a shame this has ended up a slanging match but it shows how hard it is for different groups to have a civilized conversation about very different ways of seeing and how to have good family lives, and what could be learned from all of them if only we could actually show each other respect for long enough.