How did Tyson Fury’s daughter get married at 16?

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I thought they changed the law and you had to be 18 in the UK?

A huge amount of gypsy women run thier own very successful businesses or have jobs , and that money is the hers and hers alone
The mans money is family money

How so? The fact that traveller men are willing to sleep with women from outside their culture so that they can understand how to be a good partner sexually seems like a good thing for their wives, unless I'm missing something?

How it is all false?

How can you say that a 16 year old,
who left school at 12 and hasn’t done GCSEs has had an proper education?

Are you saying that Traveller community is as relaxed about divorce as wider society?

Are you saying that it’s not the expectation in many Traveller communities that it the man who earns and controls the money, whilst his wife stays home to cook, clean and have lots of children?

Wow. So non traveller woman are just there for men to practice in readiness for their young bride? Presumably that is a measure of how people in your culture view non traveller women?

How can that be a good thing?

Not familiar with this particular family but to put the general question about lower limits of marriageable age in some perspective: European countries have recently made it a shared goal and priority to eliminate child marriage, under UN Sustainable Development Goals (SDG Target 5.3) and as recommended by both the Council of Europe and the EU Parliament. Since Austria raised its base age to 18 in 2025 the UK has been the only European country with a base age (albeit only in some parts) below 18, although 16 additional countries still allow exceptions in specific cases (typically via judicial review and/or parental consent - for example, in Austria a judge can grant an exception in the case of pregnancy). Legislative pledges to close those "exceptional circumstances" loopholes have, unfortunately, lagged behind targets but the goals and the pressure remain.

For the UK, NI still allows 16 and 17 year olds to marry with parental consent, but the Marriage and Civil Partnership Bill under discussion at Stormont now is expected to change this. Guernsey and Gibraltar also have pending legislation that would set an absolute age of 18. The Scottish Government has launched a family law consultation to determine what is needed to raise the age from 16 (unconditional) to 18. IOM and Jersey are under local pressure to set an absolute age of 18 but have announced no concrete plans.

This isn't an ethically neutral matter, nor logical fodder for cultural relativism. The treatment of children and the treatment of women and girls are strong indicators of the state of a society. People aren't, broadly, going to be shamed out of caring. As for the divorce rate - even if it actually were 50% in some PP's unknown and possibly mythical home country - the availability of divorce on request is a STRENGTH of society, not a weakness. I've lived in a country with a 0% divorce rate (because divorce was illegal) and believe me, this is NOT a good thing for anyone, but especially not for women given that as a demographic group they are still at a structural disadvantage to men as group and therefore are more likely than their male counterparts to experience exploitation or marginalisation within a cross-sex marriage.

You can’t genuinely think that the reason that Traveller men have sex with non-Traveller women is so they can be better husbands…

You're missing the point that the woman aren't allowed to do this.

It would seem so. This thread is quite the eye opener!

Oh I’d need more than a 1000 post thread to cover it all really. But off the top of my head I’d say palming kids off for others to raise while you work is up there. Allowing children to have boyfriends and sleeping in your homes is another. Kids out drinking taking drugs and getting their selves into dangerous situations alone. Girls being raped because they’re out getting into bad situations because they have no one who cares where they are. Boys up in bedrooms playing mind numbing video games with no father figure to show him the ways of the world. Bringing your kids up conditioned that education is key, then work yourself into the ground, be in debt all your life and then die. No survival skills, no work ethic, no way to keep yourself alive other than working for a company and getting someone else richer. You’ve got young men on the dole fgs claiming all sorts. We don’t have none of that work ethic is taught from young, marriage is a partnership where the man provides and the woman keeps the home it’s a team effort. Yous are off in all directions with your seperate money and going half’s on bills 😂 what is that about. Its embarrassing and sad that’s yous don’t see your marriage as a team effort and it’s all about having one up on your husbands/wives. You’ve only gotta read threads on here about how you people don’t value your marriage or have any respect for each other and willing to chuck it all away over the most stupid of stuff because they chose crap life partners but as long as they are well educated life partners who cares ay. I could go on and on but you get my gist.

Women are not blow up dolls for men to practice on. The fact that traveller men will deign to sleep with non traveller women just for fun and/or to practice on but think we’re not good enough to marry is pretty revolting. But I suppose it’s just another example of how misogynistic their culture is.

You said women have no economic independence, that's a lie. At least 50% of gypsy women work.

Do you consider having GCSEs as having an education? I don't.

Divorce is perfectly acceptable these days.

Yes typically the man is the breadwinner. Is there a problem with that? You make out the wife is just some slave who pops out babies. Absolutely ridiculous.

What have I just read! I think it’s so sad that on 2026 people still believe that withdrawing a girl from education at 11 to learn how to clean a house and look after children is acceptable. It’s abuse. Unbelievable that @InstantlyBellathinks it’s great a man shags around to build up the skills to be able to satisfy their wives. Why doesn’t this work the other way round then 🥴.

Seems to me the young girls and women are brainwashed into thinking they are being looked after and given a great life - I mean who would want more than having a caravan to clean! Anyway people must live how they want, but don’t pretend it’s giving women equality or a voice.

Marriage is not an aspiration for women who have self respect as they are independently happy and economically stable.

Do they get a choice? Or are they just removed?

So the positives are that as sex is forbidden before marriage this man gets to have sex with a child? How is a man having sex with a child a benefit to anyone?

I don’t know where you’re getting the idea that most English people live like this, because my family and I certainly don’t, neither do any of those I know.

You’re picking the most dysfunctional behaviour in society, and projecting that onto the whole society…

I could do the same with Travellers, saying they’re all wife-beating thieves who cause havoc everywhere they go and have no respect for the law, but that would be a crass and prejudiced stereotype, and would be unfair on the Travellers who weren’t like that.

I had to stop at motorway services a couple of months back. Groups of travellers descended. I saw first hand what their hard work and bringing up children meant and it wasn’t pretty, the poor staff.

And you think there is prejudice against your way of life?

Girls being raped because they’re out getting into bad situations because they have no one who cares where they are

Girls are raped because men want to rape them. How dare you put the blame on them and their families! As a rape survivor, that is vile and does in fact underline people’s perception of how your culture thinks of women.

If anyone had said exactly the same about travellers you would be posting a very aggressive and badly written reply about it.

And I have little doubt that you will post another aggressive reply to me but you crack on.

Exactly! Did you see the rape comment?

Girls do not get raped because they get into bad situations. They get raped because a rapist chose to rape them. The fact you blame girls for being raped and not the rapist says a lot.

Most girls get raped by ppl they know. Most women get raped by ppl they know. Usually their husband....so marriage is a bad situation for many women as it ties them to a rapist. Which is the same in every culture.

As for the man providing, he is doing nothing more than when he was single. His life never changes. He pays for his house when single. He pays for his house when married. What is he providing after marriage that he didn't provide for himself before? He isn't providing meals for his wife is he? Not even providing the food.

Its a bit like the grooming gangs who sleep with /rape/ assault lots of white women as they see them as white trash. Its the same attitude.

Exactly like that.

They rape brown and black girls too as they see them as trash. The root cause is the same as everything discussed on here - misogyny!

However the brown victims are not supported in reporting....wonder why?

Yes white groomers also see white girls as trash....as paedos have no respect for girls - not one.

@flabbypea Ever heard the saying “you can’t make a wife out of a ho”

I'm very happy to say that no, this is the first time I've heard this vile and misogynistic saying. This whole thread has been dispiriting (and eye opening). The contempt for education is very depressing. The internalised misogyny is something else.