How did Tyson Fury’s daughter get married at 16?

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I thought they changed the law and you had to be 18 in the UK?

It means you are at higher risk of those things.
A 16 year old is more likely to be affected than a 25 year old.
Child marriage is more of a risk.

Oh bullshit we shouldn't. Too many communities in the UK have conveniently hidden the exploitation and control of women and children behind "cultural tradition".

I wonder how many of these strident feminists criticizing the gypsy/traveller community would be as strident against the edicts of the Prophet Mohammed?

And all those things can apply to a 30 year old. Stop trying to scrape the barrel with bullshit.

I don’t know how it worked in Ireland but it has worked. I suppose investment.

When I was a teenager I don’t remember any travellers in secondary schools, now the majority are in secondary school.

I have always grew up around travellers who call themselves gypsy but I’d never call them that. It’s offensive. They consider their traditions gypsy.
Now I’m talking Irish travellers not Roma.

I didn’t know there was a difference in a traveller or gypsy, peaky blinders as an example were gypsy born from an Irish/Roma travelling community. I refer to the Roma as Roma travellers too. Gypsy is a slur unless you live in the community.

In that case, nobody under 25 should be allowed to vote, have sex, drink alcohol, drive a car, fly a plane, join the Military etc etc In fact they should all stay in education and mummy & daddy should still be wiping their arse.

I used to work with an English Gypsy. It was interesting when a group of Irish Travellers set up camp on the field next door. I remember him telling my boss not to trust the 'tinkers' as he called them. His attitude suggested that the two separate communities didn't really get along. Our boss wanted to live and let live. My colleague exhibited surprising levels of prejudice, including advising our boss got them moved on, which surprised me since being forced to constantly move on was why, so he told us, he and his wife moved into a house.

He told me she'd like to go back to living the proper travelling life. Always wondered if they ever did, and felt sorry they felt forced to give up living the way their people had lived in this country for hundreds of years.

Gypsy isn't a slur.

Unfortunately the midwife was incorrect. Although under 14s obviously face the highest risks, 14-19 year olds are also at higher risk of eclampsia, preterm labour, low birth weight babies etc.

You would be punched if you called a travelling person a gypsy, yet they’ve photos of grandparents in wagons, fortune tellers, tinkering, travelling from roadside to roadside.
A member of the travelling community is the correct or new term.

I encouraged my kids to stay in education, but as I've got older I wonder about the benefits of the so called middle class lifestyle.
I have cancer and it makes you realise what is important, family really, having ties in your community. I'm reasonably well educated, OH dropped out at 16, he's always out earned me by a long, long way. We've moved away to chase career opportunities, family and kids are scattered. We've chased the MC lifestyle and it hasn't really brought happiness. I was brought up on a council estate and when I look back at the people I know still there, Mumsnet would probably scorn them - but they are generally happier, their family is close, they work locally and I think years of education, and striving for a career often means nothing.

Whilst I'm not exactly condoning marriage at 16, there's nothing wrong in being content at home with your family and living a more simple life.

I remember one. It was in the 80s. Her family still travelled, they didn't live on a permanent site, so she only came to our school sporadically when camped in the area. I think she went to whichever school was closest to wherever they camped.

@EmeraldShamrock000 can't edit to add that was in England, though.

Where do you get these ideas 🤣
There are gypsys and there are Irish travellers.

I am a gypsy. It is NOT a slur.

We. Are allowed to be concerned at a girl so young getting married, the treatment of young people SHOULD be a concern of everyone. Most people would think 16 is too young i suspect. So yes, it's everyone's business, rightly so.

I’m asking what are the specific positives to marrying at 16. I know there aren’t any, as you’ve clearly demonstrated by not being able to give me a tangible answer.

Yes, the term "Gypsy" is highly debated. While it is used in official UK terminology and proudly embraced by some Romanichal and traveller groups, it is widely considered an offensive racial slur by many Romani people globally. The term "Roma" is the preferred, respectful ethnonym.

The term "Gypsy" is widely considered a derogatory exonym and slur by Romani people and other distinct travelling communities. Calling someone who is a Traveller—such as an Irish Traveller—by this name is doubly offensive, as they are separate ethnic groups.

It's not having a 'western saviour mindset' that drives people to question cultural practices like FGM, it's actually compassion for women and girls and a desire to prevent harm and pain and lifelong emotional anguish.

You would want us to constantly apologise for on behalf of 'the west' for ever and ignore inhumane 'cultural' practices right in front of our eyes? It's this sort of patronising inverse racism (including cultural bias) which has led to the waving through by the authorities of sadistic rape gangs across the country.

I’m sorry you have cancer and you’re obviously entitled to romanticise in this way but I also grew up on a council estate in Bradford and I completely disagree. People were not happy there at all. It was rife with crime, drugs, alcoholism, poverty and unemployment. I feel much happier in my comfortable home with my nice cushty job as an academic knowing I can give my DC a stable upbringing. Definitely feel more satisfied knowing I broke out of the poverty I grew up in and have my PhD.

She might grow up extremely satisfied with her life cleaning the caravan with eight kids but it isn’t what I’d wish for my own children.

Oh you speak for the whole community? How odd. Where do you get these ideas?

Someone has already asked this, way back at the start of the thread and it’s not the gotcha you think it is. Child marriage is wrong. Full stop. In any culture.

Its crazy you think you know more about gypsys than a gypsy.
Oh please do continue to educate me on my own culture.

Because of co morbidities like some girls that get pregnant young are statistically more likely to be doing drugs or eating typical teenage food like pot noodles and nothing else.
Me at 16 I’d never touched even a drop of alcohol even today I’ve never tried drugs not even weed that was probably my easiest labour tbh. I also know loads of girls who had children at 18/19 absolutely no problems there unless like I said they live chaotic lives and do drugs.

Getting pregnant under 15 is where the physical effects you mentioned apply.

Well clearly you need it, as you didn’t know that some of the travelling people find the word offensive.

You are laughable.