How did Tyson Fury’s daughter get married at 16?

[Wouldcou]

I thought they changed the law and you had to be 18 in the UK?

some don’t want an education and that is fine.
not all girls have kids straight after they are married.
what lack is there in contraception?
some don’t want a high flying job and are fine becoming self employed.
hows getting married at 16 any different to getting married at 30. A violent partner comes in all ages.

The difference is vast, they are too completely different ethnicities. It's Irish travellers who have the huge suicide rate and DV. They also tend to get married younger on average, though the average age for gypsies is still lower than the UK age.

It's strange that you would use the term fail to protect their children from marriage, when marriage is something we aspire to. Getting married, having children and living a happy life is our absolute ideal.

No one from any culture or community should be married at 16 and denied an education, colonialism or not. I say that as someone from a former British colony.

You can thank 'My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding' for that. That series focused on the marriages of young girls and gave the impression it was the norm. Several travellers from outside the community shown in the documentary objected to the clumping together of travellers as one homogenous mass.

It’s having the emotional resources and the Financial ones to leave that comes later
Every mother around the world tells their daughter to have a running away fund of savings that their husband doesn’t know about
You’re less likely to be able to build that up if you’re starting point is 16 with no education

Even worse than the misogyny is the sulky racing. The culture is unbelievably cruel to animals, mainly dogs & horses. She also had fox fur coats on the bridesmaids.

I don’t know if it’s worse the two seem to go hand-in-hand and have been proven to be linked for centuries

You know there are differences in getting married at 16 and 30. Pretending you dont know doesn't mean they dont exist

I notice you haven’t answered my question. The cons of marrying at 16 have already been discussed in depth on this thread. Your turn, what are the benefits or the positives of marrying at 16?

@ThejoyofNC

The difference is vast, they are too completely different ethnicities. It's Irish travellers who have the huge suicide rate and DV. They also tend to get married younger on average, though the average age for gypsies is still lower than the UK age.
It's strange that you would use the term fail to protect their children from marriage, when marriage is something we aspire to. Getting married, having children and living a happy life is our absolute ideal.

Thanks: I understand that they are different ethnicities, I was grouping them together because they have similar lifestyles and seem to have similar positions on the role of women in the family and society. I'm sorry if you felt I was putting it crudely, that wasn't my intention, but they are similar in their approach to this so it is legitimate to make that comparison.

But I would take issue with your position on marriage being something which automatically protects children. Marriage isn't a universal good for women.

At its best, marriage strengthens families, supports people in raising children, protects wealth and provides support and comfort etc. But this isn't automatically the case. Marriage can also be a cover for the disempowerment of women by men and a trap for women if it results in them being stuck in a cycle of producing children and caring for the home. Yes some women want this but some don't. The less educated a woman is, the more likely she is to be taken advantage of by a man because she has less insight, less money, less power.

My core argument is that if you allow girls to at least complete standard secondary education they are in a position to choose the life they want. If they want a traditional family life, all power to them. But by forcing them out of education when they are not yet sentient enough to make an informed choice you are disempowering them. It's all very well to say I don't understand the society you come from, and you're right, I don't, but that doesn't justify something which deprives people of agency. Just because "the community" deems something to be the right path, doesn't make it so for everyone.

Education is never a waste of time or money. I think it’s really sad people feel this way about education. How is astrophysics more useful than history, for example? They all have their place and beside the by, I would much rather my daughter (who is only a year younger than Venezuela) spend 3 years studying film studies at uni and having fun along the way than getting married, cleaning a caravan and having babies. You can call this out as cultural differences all you want but last time I checked this was the UK and we were in 2026. I don’t think I’m the anomaly here.

Ok but it’s not needed for us. If a girl leaves she goes back home and her father and brothers support her. Our worlds are very different like I’ve tried to explain. We aren’t like yous we have a family to fall back on if we want it the support is there. Yes it’s good for girls to have their own money and they do by earning their own money.

where do you draw the line on that? FGM? Child brides? Honour killings? Being allowed to text your wife like your possession? Witch hunts and exorcisms? food binding?
obv a family-suported marriage at 16 is incomparable, but saying we can't comment on cultural traditions is a bit "they're not like us, it doesn't matter what's happens to them"

The difference between child marriage and marrying as an adult is exactly as I wrote in the post you responded too.
Lack of education, less access to contraception and abortion, reduced career prospects, higher risk of teenage pregnancy with associated health risks and higher risk of domestic violence.

Your argument might be that some children want all that and some children won't be effected, but those are still the risks of child marriage.

They seem happy and she comes from a supportive family, but I don’t think a child marriage should be acceptable or celebrated.

The cons are the same for anyone who wants to get married. Age doesn’t play a part in it. What you have to understand is that our 16 year olds are different to your 16 year olds. They are way more grown up for their age and more mature.

I don't think pushing every child through GCSEs is the right track at all and probably part of the issue with disruption and behaviour in schools. Some children are very hands-on and would be better on a more vocational path. Dragging kids through constant maths and English resits is appalling. Other EU countries do things differently. GCSEs at 16 shouldn't be the be all and end all, vocational choices at 14 should be a thing.

No, that's not true.

So you still can’t tell me what the positives of getting married at 16 are then?

Many traveller children have this choice completely removed. There’s no vocational or academic education, they’re removed from school at 12 and they either work or clean.

I gave birth at 16 and was told by the midwife it’s biology the best time (I am NOT saying other people should do the same) the physical health effects you’re talking about are for under 14s.

Well if you don't happen to come from the particular culture with those particular practices then no actually it isn't up for discussion. You have no right casting judgement on another culture for what they may or may not do, who made you the international arbiter for societal standards? Such a western 'saviour' mindset, trust me they dont need your saving, these civilisations have been around for far longer than yours have.

Different parts of the U.K have different laws. English law doesn't rule over us all.

no Sorry your wrong. Being married at 16 doesn’t mean you can’t get contraception or that you will be a teen mum 😬 it also doesn’t mean that you’ll be beat up by your husband because you married at 16 instead of 25.

The positives are the same as any other age getting married.