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And he showed up unannounced ... after I tried to help him.

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MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 18:42

This is the first thread I have created, so be gentle, ha.

Okay, I saw a post on Facebook from a neighbour I did not know at all, saying how lonely he was since the death of his wife six weeks ago. Lots of people were saying nice things but I know, having suffered many deaths, that what he probably needed was company and a mind diversion for a few hours.

I said he was welcome for a cuppa at mine, stressing it would be friends only, that I am not looking for a relationship at all (and I hoped that as he was only six weeks bereaved, finding someone else would not be on his mind).

He came over the next day, and spent a massive eight hours here, by which time I was way past my work start time but as I am self-employed and we were getting on great and with many interests in common, I didn't make an issue of it.

After he left, I very quickly received a message asking, 'Please please, can we do that again as soon as possible?' and by the next morning, a message saying, 'I am waiting like a kid at Christmas for your reply!'

He also told me he was going to be working next door to me on the Monday morning, obviously dropping this news into the chat so I could say, 'Why don't you pop in?' Of course, I did not say that or give any encouragement, from which he should have deduced I wasn't into the idea of meeting again so soon.

I also had the feeling he had somehow 'engineered' the work next door to me as he never mentioned that during the Saturday meet-up.

The first time I had seen him was on the Saturday, when he'd arrived at 1pm and left at half past nine in the evening. Bit long for a cup of tea!

I reponded to his messages without showing the same ardour (the ardent messaging was already giving me the heebie jeebies, giving vibes that he saw me as more than a friend) but I said we could meet up again when I was next free, but that he should be aware I worked a lot.

I stressed I'd let him know when I was off work, and that we could go out and do an activity. I again stressed 'It is nice to meet local friends.'

Incidentally, I really do work a lot, usually around 12-14 hours a day, each day, except Saturdays when normally, I go out with an archaeology group. After that, I always work through on the Saturday night/Sunday morn to catch up.

I also told him that I was about to work an all-nighter from Sunday eve to Monday morning, and that on Monday, I was going to be out on a job all night so needed to catch up on sleep between Sunday night and Monday daytime.

Anyway!

It came to half past nine this morning and there were a few knocks on the door. I had expected it to be a parcel delivery so I answered. AAAAGH! There he was, standing hopping foot to foot, waiting to be invited in!

I was bloody angry and said I had just worked nights and he'd woken me up, which was true, and I'd dragged myself from bed looking like Worzel Gummidge. I must have looked both horrific and horrified!

He was waving two coffees about, which he'd bought at a local garage. I don't even drink coffee and said so, then that I had to go as I needed sleep because I am tonight working all night on a difficult task just as I'd told him. And I closed the door on him.

I was both mortified and embarrassed that he'd put me in that position. What a $$$$ing idiot!

To top it off, I checked the members' names, and he has gone and joined the same club I am a member of, where we go out on Saturdays. So now, I have to expect him to show up there as well. He actually was a member of it two years ago before I joined, and he did not like it. The first thing he told me was how bad it was, trying to get me to opt out of it.

I am in two minds about whether I should message the organiser and ask them to boot him out as he only rejoined the minute after leaving here on the Saturday night!

That's the last time I feel sorry for a bereaved male neighbour which is a shame. I have several male friends who don't behave like this and have never shown up at the door. They wouldn't dream of it!

AIBU to have no tolerance for him showing up like that, and to not contact him again despite his messages still coming on Facebook?

I feel sad that he's lost his wife but it doesn't give him a ticket to stalkerish, creepy behaviour. It's even worse that we have a few good friends in common, and I wonder if he will try to blacken my name for not continuing with the contact.

Having seen how he tried to get me to opt out of the club I am a member of, I would not be surprised.

OP posts:
JFDIYOLO · 20/11/2025 09:07

Men do not generally ask for women's help - unless it's help with domestic chores or with getting off.

You're a mature woman who's worked in close protection where being able to read the room, the situation and the intent is a basic and highly developed skill.

Start applying it to men.

shuggles · 20/11/2025 19:25

seafoamhair · 19/11/2025 22:55

Men are so keen on relationships and marriage as they want a steady root and a live-in maid and/or nursemaid.

Well no, not necessarily. Men, by their nature, are keen to seek out the company of women and love spending time around them.

There are almost no men who can afford a live-in maid, so it's absolutely not true that men want a stay at home partner.

shuggles · 20/11/2025 19:26

seafoamhair · 19/11/2025 22:53

The example we are discussing in this thread is some horny old guy in search of "cuddles" who thinks OP is the answer to all his problems. It's not fucking love, ffs.

Yes, I know.

But I'm saying that in his mind, it's love.

TidyCyan · 20/11/2025 19:31

shuggles · 20/11/2025 19:25

Well no, not necessarily. Men, by their nature, are keen to seek out the company of women and love spending time around them.

There are almost no men who can afford a live-in maid, so it's absolutely not true that men want a stay at home partner.

The poster didn't say "stay at home partner". Ideally they want someone with a full time salary who also does all the mental load plus housework.

shuggles · 20/11/2025 19:32

TidyCyan · 20/11/2025 19:31

The poster didn't say "stay at home partner". Ideally they want someone with a full time salary who also does all the mental load plus housework.

A live-in maid would be a stay at home partner.

Someone who earns a full time salary would not be classified as "live-in."

Terrribletwos · 20/11/2025 19:39

shuggles · 20/11/2025 19:26

Yes, I know.

But I'm saying that in his mind, it's love.

Ah really, how sweet!

TidyCyan · 20/11/2025 22:40

shuggles · 20/11/2025 19:32

A live-in maid would be a stay at home partner.

Someone who earns a full time salary would not be classified as "live-in."

They want someone who lives in the house with them and does all the housework. They don't really care when it gets done.

WaryHiker · 20/11/2025 22:51

Consistently turning them down is you playing hard to get. Why would anyone pretend not to be interested?

"I am not now to learn," replied Mr. Collins, with a formal wave of the hand, "that it is usual with young ladies to reject the addresses of the man whom they secretly mean to accept, when he first applies for their favour; and that sometimes the refusal is repeated a second, or even a third time. I am therefore by no means discouraged by what you have just said, and shall hope to lead you to the altar ere long."

shuggles · 20/11/2025 23:26

TidyCyan · 20/11/2025 22:40

They want someone who lives in the house with them and does all the housework. They don't really care when it gets done.

What makes you think that men who fall in love with women really easy are more prone to expecting women to do everything for them?

What makes you think that more aloof, less emotional, and more disconnected men do not expect women to do their housework?

TidyCyan · 20/11/2025 23:38

shuggles · 20/11/2025 23:26

What makes you think that men who fall in love with women really easy are more prone to expecting women to do everything for them?

What makes you think that more aloof, less emotional, and more disconnected men do not expect women to do their housework?

What? Can you point out where I made any distinction?
I thought you said all men are more emotional than women and all men are actually in love with these random neighbours they're hassling the moment they become single rather than casting about for anyone nearby with a vagina?

Reported. No way you're not a troll.

shuggles · 20/11/2025 23:50

@TidyCyan What? Can you point out where I made any distinction?

We're talking about OP's example...

I thought you said all men are more emotional than women and all men are actually in love with these random neighbours they're hassling the moment they become single rather than casting about for anyone nearby with a vagina?

I didn't say "all" men. I said men as a group of people, which means an average.

It's like if someone says "men are stronger than women." They are not saying that all men are stronger than all women. They're saying that men, as a category, are stronger than women, meaning that men on average are stronger than women. This also allows for some women being stronger than some men (which is true, clearly).

I think it should be self-evident to anyone that men are far more emotional, clingy, and fall in love more easily than women. I am surprised that this is actually a contentious point.

NamelessNancy · 21/11/2025 07:29

shuggles · 20/11/2025 23:50

@TidyCyan What? Can you point out where I made any distinction?

We're talking about OP's example...

I thought you said all men are more emotional than women and all men are actually in love with these random neighbours they're hassling the moment they become single rather than casting about for anyone nearby with a vagina?

I didn't say "all" men. I said men as a group of people, which means an average.

It's like if someone says "men are stronger than women." They are not saying that all men are stronger than all women. They're saying that men, as a category, are stronger than women, meaning that men on average are stronger than women. This also allows for some women being stronger than some men (which is true, clearly).

I think it should be self-evident to anyone that men are far more emotional, clingy, and fall in love more easily than women. I am surprised that this is actually a contentious point.

Edited

I think describing obsessive behaviour, fixation, harassment, lust, whatever it is these type of men develop so quickly as love is a bit odd.

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 21/11/2025 08:29

Don't feed the MRA

dh280125 · 21/11/2025 11:10

He sounds like a pain but what did you expect? I think you should have seen this coming...

CameltoeParkerBowles · 21/11/2025 18:57

Ukefluke · 19/11/2025 10:19

I think that a lot of men who have had a good marriage partner up again very quickly as they have had it good and dont quite know how to cope alone. Women are more self sufficient and cope better.

Also if he has been in a long marriage he will not have a clue how things work these days. He is probably in the "men do the wooing" mind set from long ago.

I had a nuisance admirer who "wanted to snap me up before somebody else did".
Urg!
Because of course I was a commodity just sitting waiting to be snapped up by a bloke. (Rather an adult who will engage in a relationship of my choosing at a time of my choosing). I don't think he could actually comprehend that a woman "of a certain age" would prefer to have no man rather than the wrong one. I genuinely believe he thought that women are desperate not to be in the shameful state of singleness and should be grateful for any male interest.
Its a very old fashioned way of looking at male female interactions but its not uncommon in older blokes.

My nuisance turned quite unpleasant when it FINALLY penetrated what seemed to be selective deafness, that I wasn't interested. I don't know if he wasn't hearing or was hearing but choosing to ignore and wear me down. He assumed I was being hard to get, rather than just not interested. I was then told that I wasn't getting any younger and would end up "on the shelf without a man if I went on like this. (oh the horror). I believe the term "old maid " was actually used!

Oh God! He sounds very tedious. Hope he is long gone...

CameltoeParkerBowles · 21/11/2025 19:05

Zov · 19/11/2025 16:56

@TheRemainsOfTheDayCream That is utterly horrific, but sadly extremely believable. When my friends (who I used to 'play' with) and I were around 12-13 years old, there were 3 or 4 men in our 34 house street we lived in, who used to shout stuff at us.

When we were on our bicycle, one of them would say 'oooh, I can see your little titties bouncing up and down,' and when we walked past the garden 'oooh, yer a healthy looking lass, won't be long til you get a boyfriend, and let me know if you can't find one. Bet you're a nice kisser!' And one man said to my (11 year old) friend 'have you started your periods yet? Let me know if you want them stopping for 9 months.'

This was the late 1970s/early 1980s, and these 'men' were between 55 and 70. All married. We never told our parents though, as we just thought this is how they speak. We didn't know it was so wrong....... We did know however, that all these men made our skin crawl. Also though, we didn't know if we'd be believed, and that we may be thought of as trouble makers and liars and fantasists, and we were worried that people would very likely believe the 'adult' over the child. (I'm not articulating this very well sorry. I hope you all get me.) Blush

Also, there is a man in my niece's road where she lives with her friend (they rent a 2 bed house together, and have done for about a year..) He keeps making comments about how he likes to see 2 girls together, and it's his fantasy, and do they snuggle together in bed at night, ha ha ha, snigger snigger. 😂

Hmm This man is about 82. Also married.

Their poor wives honestly. I reckon they know (on some level) that their husbands are like this, they just ignore it, as they're too afraid to leave, or maybe unable to.

Who the F would be a woman eh? Confused

That is just horrific. What the fuck is wrong with these cretinous perverts?

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