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And he showed up unannounced ... after I tried to help him.

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MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 18:42

This is the first thread I have created, so be gentle, ha.

Okay, I saw a post on Facebook from a neighbour I did not know at all, saying how lonely he was since the death of his wife six weeks ago. Lots of people were saying nice things but I know, having suffered many deaths, that what he probably needed was company and a mind diversion for a few hours.

I said he was welcome for a cuppa at mine, stressing it would be friends only, that I am not looking for a relationship at all (and I hoped that as he was only six weeks bereaved, finding someone else would not be on his mind).

He came over the next day, and spent a massive eight hours here, by which time I was way past my work start time but as I am self-employed and we were getting on great and with many interests in common, I didn't make an issue of it.

After he left, I very quickly received a message asking, 'Please please, can we do that again as soon as possible?' and by the next morning, a message saying, 'I am waiting like a kid at Christmas for your reply!'

He also told me he was going to be working next door to me on the Monday morning, obviously dropping this news into the chat so I could say, 'Why don't you pop in?' Of course, I did not say that or give any encouragement, from which he should have deduced I wasn't into the idea of meeting again so soon.

I also had the feeling he had somehow 'engineered' the work next door to me as he never mentioned that during the Saturday meet-up.

The first time I had seen him was on the Saturday, when he'd arrived at 1pm and left at half past nine in the evening. Bit long for a cup of tea!

I reponded to his messages without showing the same ardour (the ardent messaging was already giving me the heebie jeebies, giving vibes that he saw me as more than a friend) but I said we could meet up again when I was next free, but that he should be aware I worked a lot.

I stressed I'd let him know when I was off work, and that we could go out and do an activity. I again stressed 'It is nice to meet local friends.'

Incidentally, I really do work a lot, usually around 12-14 hours a day, each day, except Saturdays when normally, I go out with an archaeology group. After that, I always work through on the Saturday night/Sunday morn to catch up.

I also told him that I was about to work an all-nighter from Sunday eve to Monday morning, and that on Monday, I was going to be out on a job all night so needed to catch up on sleep between Sunday night and Monday daytime.

Anyway!

It came to half past nine this morning and there were a few knocks on the door. I had expected it to be a parcel delivery so I answered. AAAAGH! There he was, standing hopping foot to foot, waiting to be invited in!

I was bloody angry and said I had just worked nights and he'd woken me up, which was true, and I'd dragged myself from bed looking like Worzel Gummidge. I must have looked both horrific and horrified!

He was waving two coffees about, which he'd bought at a local garage. I don't even drink coffee and said so, then that I had to go as I needed sleep because I am tonight working all night on a difficult task just as I'd told him. And I closed the door on him.

I was both mortified and embarrassed that he'd put me in that position. What a $$$$ing idiot!

To top it off, I checked the members' names, and he has gone and joined the same club I am a member of, where we go out on Saturdays. So now, I have to expect him to show up there as well. He actually was a member of it two years ago before I joined, and he did not like it. The first thing he told me was how bad it was, trying to get me to opt out of it.

I am in two minds about whether I should message the organiser and ask them to boot him out as he only rejoined the minute after leaving here on the Saturday night!

That's the last time I feel sorry for a bereaved male neighbour which is a shame. I have several male friends who don't behave like this and have never shown up at the door. They wouldn't dream of it!

AIBU to have no tolerance for him showing up like that, and to not contact him again despite his messages still coming on Facebook?

I feel sad that he's lost his wife but it doesn't give him a ticket to stalkerish, creepy behaviour. It's even worse that we have a few good friends in common, and I wonder if he will try to blacken my name for not continuing with the contact.

Having seen how he tried to get me to opt out of the club I am a member of, I would not be surprised.

OP posts:
AngelinaFibres · 18/11/2025 08:02

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 17/11/2025 18:47

Oh dear. This is literally why I am an antisocial bitch until I get the measure of someone.

Edited

This. Always, always get the measure of someone ( male , female,friend, potential partner, university assessed-project partner ...bloody everything) before you invite them to your house. Neutral territory, group thing. Go along with the person the first time, introduce them to others in the group, watch how they behave.

Jane143 · 18/11/2025 08:08

You sound like a really nice lady that tried to help a fellow human. Sadly he has taken it too far in his loneliness. Hopefully you can put a stop to this and he will meet new friends and that this does not disrupt your life too much. Well done for trying though x

Holluschickie · 18/11/2025 08:09

I am never nice to men I don't know. I never invite men around to mine. This has served me well.

Owly11 · 18/11/2025 08:10

Writing 'I am not looking for a relationship' means 'I am looking for a relationship' otherwise why would relationships even be on your mind. Coupled with inviting a stranger over and then not kicking him out after 45 minutes gave him 3 very strong signals that you were interested in a relationship. If you genuinely weren't looking for a relationship then you need to wonder why you offered what you did. It was reckless and risky. Having said all that his behaviour is out of order and you need to find your anger and place fort knox boundaries. I would go stone cold, block and don't answer the door. Also tell a few neighbours about it to so they can look out for you.

MySweetGeorgina · 18/11/2025 08:15

Lesson learnt. You cannot ever be randomly nice to a man. As most men only are nice to women they fancy

so he thinks you must really like him a lot, as you gave him 8 hours of your time and lots of info about your life so he can slot in

your kindness is now repaid like this

you need to have very firm words with him and you will need to be actively very unkind to him to try and neutralise the kindness which he interpreted (as many men would) as you fancying him

You live and learn 😢

SparklyGlitterballs · 18/11/2025 08:15

I'm never usually a one to be negative on someone else's thread but I'm still not getting this. You made 'endless brews' but even after the second or third (let alone subsequent ones) you didn't once think "hmm, we've been chatting a long time" and think to check the time and show him out? You're also in surveillance in the police? Blimey, if you couldn't work out several hours have passed then I think you need to up your game a bit!

For those who won't read FB Messenger messages because you don't want to show the sender they're 'read', there is a way - on an iPhone at least - of reading messages and then still showing as unread. Hard close the Messenger app on your phone. Switch your phone onto airline mode to disconnect from WiFi and 4/5g, then open Messenger and read message. Before taking off of airline mode, come out of the chat and hard close Messenger again.

Holluschickie · 18/11/2025 08:21

So true that most men are only nice to women they fancy, so they interpret all niceness as evidence of future" cuddles".
I would have never responded to a man who made that FB post.
Don't be nice to men, unless you know them very well.

Dollybantree · 18/11/2025 08:21

said this because in his message in the group chat, he was saying how much he missed cuddles and that he hoped to find a partner again, but not yet

I think this was a huge red flag - even the fact he’s on FB casting about for sympathy six weeks after his wife supposedly died. How do you even know he’s telling the truth? He sounds like an absolute chancer.

I think you’ve been incredibly naive - and letting him stay for 9 hours is just bonkers. I’m agog.

AngelinaFibres · 18/11/2025 08:22

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 22:03

That is daft. Inviting a neighbour to a cup of tea is hardly naive. I do not know why it is that on Mumsnet, every thread starts off sensibly and gets derailed by people who see men as a threat.

There's nothing threatening here.

Edited

My SIL lives in a small group of cottages. The husband of one of her neighbours had cancer and , after years and years of treatment, he died. His widow was devastated. My SIL has saviour complex and invited the neighbour round to be kind. She ended up with 2 years of her neighbour waiting until SILs husband had left for work , appearing on the doorstep, weeping for hours and still being there when her husband got back in the evening. She didn't feel she could push her away, pretend she wasn't there/ was just going out so it went on and on and on until my SIL (and her husband) was at the end of her tether. It doesn't matter whether someone is male or female you absolutely must always have boundaries.

Dollymylove · 18/11/2025 08:30

Wait, what, he came for a brew and stayed 8 HOURS? Jesus christ!!
I would have been dropping serious hints after 2 hours and then standing with the front door open after 3.
You need a firm conversation with him as he appears to have got the wrong end if the stick here

Cosyblankets · 18/11/2025 08:30

ShamrockShenanigans · 17/11/2025 18:55

I must admit I was pretty shocked that you'd say to a man who'd only lost his wife 6 weeks ago...

"I said he was welcome for a cuppa at mine, stressing it would be friends only, that I am not looking for a relationship at all (and I hoped that as he was only six weeks bereaved, finding someone else would not be on his mind)."

But it seems like you had some sort of gut instinct maybe?

I thought the same.
I've been widowed and i would have been horrified if someone said that to me

FreeRider · 18/11/2025 08:30

I said he was welcome for a cuppa at mine, stressing it would be friends only, that I am not looking for a relationship at all (and I hoped that as he was only six weeks bereaved, finding someone else would not be on his mind).

Never underestimate how much men think with their dicks @MungoforPresident ...my ex husband was shagging his new girlfriend 5 weeks after his partner of 12 years had died!

wonderegg · 18/11/2025 08:33

Cosyblankets · 18/11/2025 08:30

I thought the same.
I've been widowed and i would have been horrified if someone said that to me

The man had been saying he missed "cuddles" and wanted to find a new partner at some point in his original message so it's not out of order for the OP to put what she did.

This man wanted sex. "cuddles" is a reference to sex. Its very very obvious

Cosyblankets · 18/11/2025 08:33

Cosyblankets · 18/11/2025 08:30

I thought the same.
I've been widowed and i would have been horrified if someone said that to me

Sorry hadn't RTFT i see this had been answered

ScreamingInfidelities · 18/11/2025 08:42

shuggles · 17/11/2025 23:12

@MungoforPresident There's no issue with pushing someone away if you need time and space for yourself.

What many people don't realise is that men are far more emotional than women. Men fall in love very easily, and feel love very intensely. Men are desperate to find relationships and to have someone to keep them company. Men are hurt far more by heartbreak. Unfortunately, this is the reason why so many men may exhibit desperate and clingy behaviour, when not being mindful of how women might perceive them.

What absolute shite.

Anonanonay · 18/11/2025 09:11

MzHz · 17/11/2025 18:44

No good deed goes unpunished @MungoforPresident

Lol, I was just about to type that too.

Starlight1984 · 18/11/2025 09:11

ShamrockShenanigans · 17/11/2025 19:09

I said this because in his message in the group chat, he was saying how much he missed cuddles and that he hoped to find a partner again, but not yet.

Oh, ok.

This would've rang very loud alarm bells for me considering his wife's body was barely cold.

Absolutely this.

Also completely normal to miss cuddling someone but very strange to announce it to a group of people you barely know.

Moonlightfrog · 18/11/2025 09:12

wonderegg · 18/11/2025 08:33

The man had been saying he missed "cuddles" and wanted to find a new partner at some point in his original message so it's not out of order for the OP to put what she did.

This man wanted sex. "cuddles" is a reference to sex. Its very very obvious

This. The fact he mentioned possibly wanting a new partner when his wife only passed 6 weeks ago would be a huge red flag for me. I would t have even invited him over. He’s obviously on the look out for a wife replacement. She probably did everything for him and he’s now wanting a new slave and someone to have sex with.

OP, put an end to it. Tell him he can’t come over anymore and that you feel uncomfortable with the situation. He’s playing on the ‘lonely widow’ situation to try and get you into bed or to replace his wife.

Holluschickie · 18/11/2025 09:13

Starlight1984 · 18/11/2025 09:11

Absolutely this.

Also completely normal to miss cuddling someone but very strange to announce it to a group of people you barely know.

Yes Weirdo alert.

Anonanonay · 18/11/2025 09:14

ScreamingInfidelities · 18/11/2025 08:42

What absolute shite.

😂Yes.

Bestfootforward11 · 18/11/2025 09:19

Gosh this sounds hard. I had someone behave in a similar kind of way, he didn’t seem to understand boundaries at all. I was happy to have a chat for a bit but not hours. So I’d literally stand up up after a bit and say right I’ve got to get to work, let me get you your coat. Sure you’ve got everything? And open the door and waive him out.

JH0404 · 18/11/2025 09:20

Reading this gave me anxiety! I can’t cope with life invaders to the point I sometimes miss out on potential friendships as I’m worried what the demand on me will be. You were very kind offering for him to pop over for a chat and cup of tea, most people would know that would be for about an hour and once in a while. I’m sure he is very lonely but his behaviour is inappropriate. You need to cut him off even if it makes you feel bad, he doesn’t know or is deliberately ignoring boundaries and if you give another inch he will take the piss. Hope you manage to get rid of him. Good luck 🤞

Bestfootforward11 · 18/11/2025 09:20

I should add, your situation sounds far more awkward. I think you just tell him you’re not available to meet up any more. Good luck.

Dollybantree · 18/11/2025 09:23

MungoforPresident

You sound a bit naive also I’m afraid. Inviting a bereaved neighbour for a cuppa isn’t the problem. Inviting a complete (male) stranger who has been casting about for sympathy on FB saying he “misses cuddles”after his wife recently died to your house (when you live alone too!) is the problem - it’s a glaringly obvious red flag to anyone who has a bit of life experience. And unfortunately many of us on here have been around the block a bit and know that there are always male chancers who will try to elicit sympathy from vulnerable/too nice woman. It worked after all didn’t it, his little plan? He’s now harassing the woman who showed him a bit of sympathy after spending a whole day at her house and likely has game for this sort of thing.

OP- Make sure you tell as many people as possible about this man and his behaviour - it sounds like it could escalate.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 18/11/2025 09:29

You are naive. He misses 'cuddles', like PP's have said, means he misses sex. Also you wont be the only person he's having 'tea' with.