The racism on the Huntingdon train threads is appaling

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Just as the title says. The blatant racism and jumping to conclusions on the threads has been terrible. Mumsnet used to be a more informed intelligent place.

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You chose the wrong username.

That is very subdued take. I wonder if it would change much in the level of criticism if it was from another party.

Diversity is our strength.

Don’t let these hateful people take away what makes us great.

If that's your outlook, who am I to argue.

I guess you just ignore facts and actual sociological theories you dislike?

It is surprising though that posters who say they care are pretty much silent on the most stringent asylum change which excludes women and children.

Labour loyalty first, but why?

Talking of data, I wasn't involved in the two contentious threads Sat/Sun, however I have just looked through and spotted that you claimed that "it's something like 97% of rapes are committed by white British men" - which apparently went unchallenged.

All I can say is hogwash!

Perhaps you misremembered a statistic stating that 'something like 98% of rapes in the UK are committed by men' rather than white British men?

That’s not true at all. I travelled to Kendal last year for a hiking holiday and a gang of white British youths chased me down the high street. There’s hardly any diversity there at all but as it happens the one person who stopped them from catching me was a man who recently arrived to the country from Eritrea, who promptly gave them all an earful and made sure they left me alone. Without immigration I might have been killed that day, so yes, diversity is our strength and I will sing it loud and proud.

So a group of researchers from America with what they admit is an American slant on violence in young people in London have reviewed what they describe as a limited number of papers on the subject and use words like ‘gender’ which obscures sex and ‘ethnicity’ rich in many cases of London young person violence will mean British but obscure their ethnic origin/culture.

Thanks but I’m going to defer to Prof Jo Phoenix on this one and assume that any ‘study’ that claims no difference in criminality based on sex is mistaken or lying. Just look at the relative prison populations. Look at how many murder convictions men have compared to women.

No, I am open to facts and arguments for all sides.

Bizarre that you expect me to engage but you after being so rude.

As I said, your username doesn’t match your behaviour.

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · Today 18:50
Oh do stop embarrassing yourself.

MNHQ should take this thread down it’s utterly shameful. Frankly posters here should be banned for inciting racial hatred if not reported to the Police as a hate crime.

There’s a reason young black men dominate crime stats and it certainly isn’t their propensity for violence, it’s that they’re totally disadvantaged and failed institutionally in every way from the moment their mother is pregnant. They often don't stand a chance.

That is a whole other conversation.

The Taliban don’t need to behave in the way that they do though. Nor do other inhuman groups removing women’s human rights. They have made a choice.

But it is fascinating how several PPs refuse to engage with the actual point I made about those countries being far more misogynist than here.

So Muslims are 18% of prisoners and Black people are 12% of prisoners — apparently that makes them “criminals” and “terrorist!!’

White people are the largest group in in almost every category:
72% of prisoners are white
68% of homicide convictions are white
most drug offences,
most sexual offences,

nearly all far-right terrorism cases (UK Parliament, 2024;

So are we going to start calling all White people rapists, drug dealers, and terrorists too?

Or is it only minorities that get labelled based on stats?!

I think Jews have more to worry about than Socialists and Trade Unionists.

Did anyone spot this in the news yesterday?

An Islamic convert [white guy] who plotted to attack the Jewish community has been convicted of multiple terrorism offences.

He was convicted of six terrorism charges at Leeds Crown Court today [yesterday].

While he held an extreme Islamist mindset and expressed support for ISIL, he also regularly shared violent antisemitic messages and described Jews as ‘the target’.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/islamic-convert-convicted-planning-terror-attack

Exactly. It’s the same for the Pakistani community too. When society looks down on you and treats you as lesser, then is it any wonder you resort to crime?

Yup.
I agree.

What are "waycists"?

even per capita, white people commit the majority of homicides, drug offences, sexual offences, and far-right terrorism.

my argument still stands.