The racism on the Huntingdon train threads is appaling

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Just as the title says. The blatant racism and jumping to conclusions on the threads has been terrible. Mumsnet used to be a more informed intelligent place.

Agreed. Mumsnet is a cesspit with utterly complacent and useless moderation. Between that and the relentless ads and awful new format, Im pretty much done with it.

You are denying racism isn’t an increasing problem?

It’s dreadful all over SM with the hideous comments re the stable being born etc.
Properly vile.
So sad for the victims and their families of course but also I am sad for the people who will have ongoing fear from these hate spewing people are saying. The fear that’s being spread is also worth holding in mind.

I agree. I’ve been here for years and found so many wonderful communities but no longer feel it’s a place for me. All because I think all people regardless of skin colour, background or religion deserve a fair shot at life.

The issue is they had no way to defend themselves, so I can understand why people would ask.

What can you do if someone has a knife, it happens more than this incident of course. Although it’s hard to use, having experienced a threat.

That person is a disgrace.

As are we all.

But what you called ‘damage control for racism’ etc was a reaction to the immediate finger pointing at various minorities and very important to some of us because we are or have children who are very vulnerable in the face of those who form mobs blaming ‘xxxx group’ or anyone who looks like them. You know, those people who got attacked by mobs demonstrating outside hotels because they looked brown or black or Muslim or forrin..

I don’t want people stabbed on trains
I don’t want my child’s head kicked in by racists.

It’s so ingrained people don’t even notice.

This is the really weird part of all this. This is all I've seen about it from all the usual paid for pages that pop up on Facebook, they're all really pushing this the government can't protect you so you need to carry this narrative.

It's so coordinated and they're all saying the same thing it's just so fucking weird.

And the favourite hobby of so many others.

Im amazed that the people who say Yabu, can't see the issue.

I think that the fact that over a third of people so far have voted to say you are being unreasonable says everything anyone needs to know about what a sewer MN has become.

Not just Mumsnet, it's all social media. The open and blatant racism on Facebook is so fucking depressing. And they're all saying the same things too and liking each others posts and all riling each other up urgh

I agree it’s horrific. An awful thing happened. Instead of sending thoughts and prayers to those involved and their loved ones it’s a witch hunt looking for some “other” to blame.

What appals me is seeing how racists exploit injured people and go on and on about how hatred and speculation are the only way to properly respect the victims.

They love any attacks, they live for it. It's sickening.

A lot of Islamophobia on mumsnet. I also think the moderation is inadequate.

Quite

MN needs an 'Ignore user' button. It's really not that difficult and they are present on other forums. The rise in bilious comments means I spend less time on MN but maybe that's what they want.

But it’s true though 🤷‍♀️

Apologies, I clicked on YABU in error and I can’t change it

clearly YANBU

In what way? The suspect was not an immigrant and we don't now whether or not he was a Muslim.

What is?

I actually feel sorry for MNHQ. Society has become poisonous. And social media in particular has become seeded with hate - by bots, agitators and people who are too fucking stupid to monitor their own wickedness (or too fucking wicked to monitor their own stupidity).

What can moderation do, in such circumstances? If I owned the site I would be tempted to delete it.

What happened was terrifying, so it's understandable that people try to make sense of it. I think the speculation did go totally over the top though, and some people did get perverse pleasure out of having something to bash Muslims and/or migrants with.

But it's very nieve to claim that no one should have even thought of a link to religion or race. Acts of this sort are, in Western Europe, generally carried out by Muslim extremists, usually of migrant background.

I have Irish heritage, and when a bomb went off in London in the 70s and 80s, I know that the first thought of most people would have been the IRA, or simply 'the Irish'.

As a society we all have to work on integration, on supporting levelling up, on countering extremism and preventing ghettoisation.

I hoped the attack wasn't by a Muslim extreamist, as I know from family members who lived in the UK in the 70s and 80s that they were blamed by some for all IRA atrocities, and I don't want all Muslims in the UK to face the same pressure.

But to be shocked that anyone would wonder if the attacker acted in the name of Islam is disingenuous and virtue signalling.