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RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 14:55

ThatCyanCat · 01/11/2025 14:44

Of course. What, did you think we'd threaten to rape and kill you, post your real life location on the internet with bomb making guides, accuse you of genocide, bring about vexatious legal complaints and try to get you arrested? What kind of barmy army does that when it hears opinions it doesn't like?

Those idiots don’t speak for many in the trans community.

TheKeatingFive · 01/11/2025 14:58

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 14:55

Those idiots don’t speak for many in the trans community.

Yet we are supposed to welcome these aggressive, violent idiots into our female spaces all the same. Otherwise we are 'bigots' apparently.

PuzzlesonSaturday · 01/11/2025 15:01

Glowingup · 31/10/2025 15:13

Are all the people on that magazine cover trans women?

They all look like men, so I assume so.

fortinbra · 01/11/2025 15:01

@Haz3lW00d I do get it, it feels good to support a vulnerable group, why wouldn't anyone do that? I was happier before I understood this movement tbh

Namelessnelly · 01/11/2025 15:02

canklesmctacotits · 01/11/2025 11:25

You don’t help yourself by being deliberately rude or simple, or aggressively bold (especially when you’re being a bold simpleton). It’s obviously none of the nonsense you’ve typed. And these people exist and have done for centuries, so it’s clearly not batshit either 🙄. It’s real, and they wouldn’t give two shits that you personally don’t believe it - you, actually, embody the type of ignorance that makes their life a living curse. Why be so dismissive of something you don’t like? Wonder who that reminds me of…

I suspect it’s probably some sort of chromosomal combination, or genomal “defect” that combines element of a male human with elements of a female human in the same body. Is that beyond your imagination? Or can there only ever be two possible choices, both of them absolute at all times, and natural selection must be 100% perfect at all times, that glitches and variations can never occur even though they do every single day up and down the entire length and breadth of the human genome? You do a huge disservice to the hundreds of thousands of people who have gone before you who lived with their “defective” bodies and souls without making the sort of fuss that has this current generation all riled up. Ffs, I know standards on MN have dropped but this is something else.

You’re the one claiming people are born in the wrong bodies. I mean, if you’re dumb enough to believe that, I don’t give a hoot what you say. You probably still believe Santa is real. How do you know people have been being born in the wrong bodies for centuries?

Namelessnelly · 01/11/2025 15:03

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 14:55

Those idiots don’t speak for many in the trans community.

So why does the “trans community” not condemn them and refute their actions?

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 15:06

Namelessnelly · 01/11/2025 15:03

So why does the “trans community” not condemn them and refute their actions?

Probably because most of them are just individual people trying to do their best in a world that sidelines and silences them. They don’t have platforms to call anything out.

Talkinpeace · 01/11/2025 15:07

"The trans community"

  • middle aged, middle class white male cross dressers
  • mentally ill psychos like Alan Baker
  • gay and lesbian kids being preyed on by ghoulish doctors
  • body dysphorics like Buck Angel
  • sex offending men who have found a new way to access women and girls
TheKeatingFive · 01/11/2025 15:10

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 15:06

Probably because most of them are just individual people trying to do their best in a world that sidelines and silences them. They don’t have platforms to call anything out.

They seem to find plenty of platforms to demand access to women's spaces and criticise women who don't play along however.

Yet suddenly, when it comes to calling out violence in their ranks they 'don't have a platform'. C'mon, we weren't born yesterday.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 01/11/2025 15:10

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 15:06

Probably because most of them are just individual people trying to do their best in a world that sidelines and silences them. They don’t have platforms to call anything out.

How are they being ‘sidelined’ and ‘silenced’?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 01/11/2025 15:11

TheKeatingFive · 01/11/2025 15:10

They seem to find plenty of platforms to demand access to women's spaces and criticise women who don't play along however.

Yet suddenly, when it comes to calling out violence in their ranks they 'don't have a platform'. C'mon, we weren't born yesterday.

‘Don’t have a platform’. Now THAT was funny.

Namelessnelly · 01/11/2025 15:13

Really? So there is no way for trans people to condemn them and refute actions of people who are turning everyone against them. Righty ho. There have been no transpeople on tv or interviewed in newspapers?

spannasaurus · 01/11/2025 15:15

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 15:06

Probably because most of them are just individual people trying to do their best in a world that sidelines and silences them. They don’t have platforms to call anything out.

No platform?

So trans people are never given airtime on TV and radio.

There are no trans charities to represent them
There are no MPs pleading for their "rights" in parliament .

And no trans person has the support of the police who certainly wouldn't send 5 police officers to arrest someone for making a joke about trans identified men or arrest a wheelchair bound women for putting up a sticker or even threaten to arrest a women for "damaging" a TRAs umbrella

ThatCyanCat · 01/11/2025 15:15

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 14:55

Those idiots don’t speak for many in the trans community.

They're much worse than mere idiots and there are enough of them to cause serious harm and intimidation. And if the genderists had their way, they'd have full access to female spaces including prisons and everything they do would be recorded as women's crimes.

Nonetheless, you can express your opinions without any fear of getting that kind of reaction from terfs. Aren't you lucky?

ThatCyanCat · 01/11/2025 15:18

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 15:06

Probably because most of them are just individual people trying to do their best in a world that sidelines and silences them. They don’t have platforms to call anything out.

"Sidelines and silences them..."

You want to know what is funny? That you claim to find humour in a magazine's playground insults, but presumably typed this with a straight face.

MrsTerryPratchett · 01/11/2025 15:25

JHound · 31/10/2025 16:03

They do say that but it almost never happens (look at the Barbie movie for example.)

The Barbie film wasn’t woke. We’re so far down the misogynist road that a film that is hilarious, centres women and girls, talks about real-life things that happen every day, is ‘woke’. It’s not.

Pretending that (for example) the best people to model female sportswear have penises, that’s ‘woke’.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 15:29

ThatCyanCat · 01/11/2025 15:18

"Sidelines and silences them..."

You want to know what is funny? That you claim to find humour in a magazine's playground insults, but presumably typed this with a straight face.

I know several trans people. They are just ordinary. They don't have invitations streaming in from TV shows or massive followings on Twitter or anything. And they don't deserve the ire that occurs on a daily basis on here.

lifeturnsonadime · 01/11/2025 15:31

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 15:29

I know several trans people. They are just ordinary. They don't have invitations streaming in from TV shows or massive followings on Twitter or anything. And they don't deserve the ire that occurs on a daily basis on here.

Do they use the facilities that align with their sex or do they go about their ordinary lives eroding boundaries and breaking the law?

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 01/11/2025 15:32

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 15:06

Probably because most of them are just individual people trying to do their best in a world that sidelines and silences them. They don’t have platforms to call anything out.

Now THIS is funny and utter rubbish.
I’d probably lose my job if I spoke out publicly about the glamour cover and declared my support for JKR. So don’t tell me they don’t have a platform and are sidelined and silenced.

Scout2016 · 01/11/2025 15:34

On a thread asking why men are being celebrated as women of the year you say they have no platform?

I've seen grifters complaining that "work" (being paid for talking about themselves) has been drying up since the SC ruling... maybe Shon or the other men Glamour interviewed could have suggested that if people want to support them, how about they try not turning up with masks on to drown out women meeting to speak, or vandalism of buildings they are meeting in, and not posing for photos with weapons and posting how they want to harm "terfs". Instead of more of the poor me me me act.

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/2025.09.17-104109/shonfaye.substack.com/p/well-its-over" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.is/2025.09.17-104109/shonfaye.substack.com/p/well-its-over

Or this couple could have suggested it as a way for allies to help?

www.google.com/amp/s/diva-magazine.com/2025/03/31/jake-and-hannah-graf/amp/

EasternStandard · 01/11/2025 15:34

MrsTerryPratchett · 01/11/2025 15:25

The Barbie film wasn’t woke. We’re so far down the misogynist road that a film that is hilarious, centres women and girls, talks about real-life things that happen every day, is ‘woke’. It’s not.

Pretending that (for example) the best people to model female sportswear have penises, that’s ‘woke’.

Yeh I wondered that about the Barbie film, why it was described as such

potpourree · 01/11/2025 15:37

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 14:55

Those idiots don’t speak for many in the trans community.

I agree with you there. I feel for any group who have people as supposed spokespeople for them who present the worst of the group.

If it helps, I wouldn't assume all trans people are misogynists (although there is some level of sexist thinking that underlies the 'men are like THIS, women are like THAT' belief behind self-id - but sexism is so deeply ingrained into our culture I have some sympathy with those who have absorbed it).

In fact 'trans' includes people with no gender identity which would apply to many people on here!

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 15:39

Ordinary trans people do not have a platform. Even going to the toilet becomes a far bigger deal than many people on here will ever understand. The problem is that many people on here can't/won't see the individuals behind the sensationalist headlines, largely because they don't want to and it doesn't suit their purposes to do so.

Talkinpeace · 01/11/2025 15:40

Trans activists vandalised the EHRC offices
Trans activists want the EHRC evicted from their offices
Trans activists did £55,000 of damage to the Brighton Centre
Trans activists try to drown out any meeting of women on any subject
Trans activists force their way into womens sporting competitions
Trans activists force their way into menopause and miscarriage and breastfeeding groups

they are bullies who should be called out
but politicians are cowards

TheKeatingFive · 01/11/2025 15:42

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/11/2025 15:39

Ordinary trans people do not have a platform. Even going to the toilet becomes a far bigger deal than many people on here will ever understand. The problem is that many people on here can't/won't see the individuals behind the sensationalist headlines, largely because they don't want to and it doesn't suit their purposes to do so.

You aren't addressing the core issue however.

A group of men, which includes some very violent and aggressive ones, demand access to women's spaces and when women object, we are called evil bigots.

How is that right or fair?

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