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VioletandDill · 31/10/2025 15:14

Unacceptableinthe80s · 31/10/2025 15:12

You won't, since they're not even in print anymore 😂

Fair enough, I didn't know that. It's been a while since I've bought a mag I must admit 😂 I'll donate to Not A Phase instead. They do great community work.

someepeoplearenice · 31/10/2025 15:15

VioletandDill · 31/10/2025 15:05

Excellent work Glamour - I'll get a copy from the newsagents. Wouldn't be aware of this otherwise so thanks OP! The rest of the women of the year are also worth reading about - including Hannah Hampton, a first class goalie who helped us secure a second Euros victory.

Interesting that you are pretending to care about women's sport when you presumably think women have no right to their own sport, as men should be able to play in it.

Justwrong68 · 31/10/2025 15:16

VioletandDill · 31/10/2025 15:05

Excellent work Glamour - I'll get a copy from the newsagents. Wouldn't be aware of this otherwise so thanks OP! The rest of the women of the year are also worth reading about - including Hannah Hampton, a first class goalie who helped us secure a second Euros victory.

But apparently that’s a footnote

AGirlCalledJohnny · 31/10/2025 15:18

I hit the wrong button OP, ofc you are NOT being unreasonable (I’m on the app and not sure how to change it).

Brava to Jo as usual. What is the point of this ‘celebration’ anyway, what have these “dolls” actually achieved to be anything of the year? It’s so deliberately goady, it’s laughable, but we can’t afford to ignore it. The focus shifts from the scary ‘cross dressers’ to ‘these are just artsy, fey creatives expressing themselves, they won’t harm you. Only vile people would pick on them’ narratives to bully us in to silence.

Why are we supposed to pretend they aren’t lying to us and themselves? That they’re not stealing spaces and platforms designed for women? Given front pages of large publications to gaslight us all, especially the younger demographic the magazine targets, to pretend these emperors new clothes are very fine indeed?

VioletandDill · 31/10/2025 15:19

Justwrong68 · 31/10/2025 15:16

But apparently that’s a footnote

Actually if you go to the Glamour UK website, the Dolls are right at the bottom - very easy to appreciate the 9 other women who've been given the award while avoiding the Dolls if you really want to!

www.glamour.com/story/2025-glamour-women-of-the-year

canklesmctacotits · 31/10/2025 15:25

I think this whole thing is clearly lost on me because I don't read this as anything other than tongue in cheek. A man who has transitioned away from being a man and closer to being a woman isn't a woman. He's not a man, but neither is he a woman. He's a transitioned man. Different category. So this is just satire, to me. Provocative satire to generate clicks and outrage. Not particularly mature or interesting, in fact pretty boring.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 31/10/2025 15:27

canklesmctacotits · 31/10/2025 15:25

I think this whole thing is clearly lost on me because I don't read this as anything other than tongue in cheek. A man who has transitioned away from being a man and closer to being a woman isn't a woman. He's not a man, but neither is he a woman. He's a transitioned man. Different category. So this is just satire, to me. Provocative satire to generate clicks and outrage. Not particularly mature or interesting, in fact pretty boring.

They can make all the body modifications they like. They are, and always will be, men.

canklesmctacotits · 31/10/2025 15:40

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 31/10/2025 15:27

They can make all the body modifications they like. They are, and always will be, men.

I don't see it quite that way. I have a lot of sympathy for the whole "stuck in the wrong body" thing. I originate from a country which has had "eunuchs" for centuries, and a widespread and unquestioned understanding and acceptance of these individuals into their (not especially elevated) status in society. It's a thing. Not in anywhere near the proportions that social media would have you believe in the handful of western countries that seem to have lost their minds to this concept, and there's definitely a lot of bandwagonning going on - but I don't dismiss it out of hand. Basically, I think there is a third category and I feel desperately sorry for the hard path these people have to beat. They're deserving of status and respect the same as the other two categories of humans. But that path is necessary because they're neither men nor women, they're something else. So this kind of tweet is just bollocks (ha). Clickbait, basically.

Tabitha005 · 31/10/2025 15:41

Magazines like Glamour are SO irrelevant in the life of any rational woman as to be heading towards obsolescence. Thank fuck. The boys are welcome to it.

EarthSight · 31/10/2025 15:49

A massive fuck you to women.

I hope that cover comes back to haunt them.

ruffler45 · 31/10/2025 15:50

Perhaps its their final edition...going out with a bang!

Dollymylove · 31/10/2025 15:51

Go woke, go broke as they say.
Watch their readership plummet 🤣

Edinburghdaze · 31/10/2025 15:52

VioletandDill · 31/10/2025 15:11

I like to think so, thanks. Hannah Hampton plays for my team as well so I'm stoked!

I take it Hannah Hampton is a man?

FrayaMorstater · 31/10/2025 15:53

She’s always right

EasternStandard · 31/10/2025 15:54

Tabitha005 · 31/10/2025 15:41

Magazines like Glamour are SO irrelevant in the life of any rational woman as to be heading towards obsolescence. Thank fuck. The boys are welcome to it.

Yep

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 31/10/2025 15:58

Edinburghdaze · 31/10/2025 15:52

I take it Hannah Hampton is a man?

She’s a woman. Not woman enough to make the cover mind.

JHound · 31/10/2025 16:01

Glowingup · 31/10/2025 15:13

Are all the people on that magazine cover trans women?

Yes they are.

JHound · 31/10/2025 16:03

Dollymylove · 31/10/2025 15:51

Go woke, go broke as they say.
Watch their readership plummet 🤣

They do say that but it almost never happens (look at the Barbie movie for example.)

Thatstheheatingon · 31/10/2025 16:03

I've googled Hannah Hampton off the back of this thread. Why couldn't she be on the cover?

Hellohelga · 31/10/2025 16:09

I’m confused. So dolls is a general term for trans women? Are all those people on the cover men? Where’s Hannah Hampton then - hidden in the content?

HH is amazing and makes me proud to be a British woman as does Mary Earps and all our glorious Lionesses. This mag is an insult to women.

junipery · 31/10/2025 16:09

canklesmctacotits · 31/10/2025 15:40

I don't see it quite that way. I have a lot of sympathy for the whole "stuck in the wrong body" thing. I originate from a country which has had "eunuchs" for centuries, and a widespread and unquestioned understanding and acceptance of these individuals into their (not especially elevated) status in society. It's a thing. Not in anywhere near the proportions that social media would have you believe in the handful of western countries that seem to have lost their minds to this concept, and there's definitely a lot of bandwagonning going on - but I don't dismiss it out of hand. Basically, I think there is a third category and I feel desperately sorry for the hard path these people have to beat. They're deserving of status and respect the same as the other two categories of humans. But that path is necessary because they're neither men nor women, they're something else. So this kind of tweet is just bollocks (ha). Clickbait, basically.

I see what you’re saying but I don’t think transwomen want to be seen as eunuchs or any kind of third category. They want to be considered to be women and use women’s spaces.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 31/10/2025 16:12

JHound · 31/10/2025 16:03

They do say that but it almost never happens (look at the Barbie movie for example.)

Bud Light. Planet Fitness. Target to name a few.

Barbie had a transwoman with a tiny part. It emits a roll of the eyes at best. Had a transwoman/male been cast as Barbie, it would’ve been a different story entirely.

WildCats24 · 31/10/2025 16:12

It’s like Ebony magazine putting Rachel Dolezal on the cover and announcing that she’s “Black Woman of the Year”.

canklesmctacotits · 31/10/2025 16:13

junipery · 31/10/2025 16:09

I see what you’re saying but I don’t think transwomen want to be seen as eunuchs or any kind of third category. They want to be considered to be women and use women’s spaces.

They can think what they like 🤷🏼‍♀️. Doesn’t make it true or indeed possible.

quantumbutterfly · 31/10/2025 16:17

Hellohelga · 31/10/2025 16:09

I’m confused. So dolls is a general term for trans women? Are all those people on the cover men? Where’s Hannah Hampton then - hidden in the content?

HH is amazing and makes me proud to be a British woman as does Mary Earps and all our glorious Lionesses. This mag is an insult to women.

More of an Ellie Kildunne fan myself. Women are storming at sports at the mo.