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Husband ran up debt

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deirdrechilly · 29/06/2025 21:59

He’s just told me he has 21k of debt. He told me last week it was 7k which came as a shock as I thought it was 5k a few years back and he was working to clear it (like myself who also had 5k and has been working to clear it)

When we met 20 years ago he had 30-40k of debt, lived with his parents and drove a bucket of shit car. No designer clothes or expensive habits, nothing to show for it other than nights out and poor money management.

He took out an IVA to clear it and also a second job. It was cleared he quit the second job and we were finally debt free, built up credit and finally able to buy a house.

then tonight he tells me this. It’s built up over 10 years he says. Nothing to show for it.

i also had debt when we met, had a DMP, and learned from it. Have achieved several promotions in my career and found out last week I’m soon to be getting a promotion that comes with a 17k pay rise bringing me on to 61k per year. This is still sinking in for me, I left school at 15 with no aspirations, got saddled with debt from my first relationship, spent years working two jobs myself and finally felt as though I was winning at life last week. I was excited to look at new houses as have been wanting to move, he mentioned consolidating credit card/loans. I said oh what do you have left I only have 2.5k on mine. He said 7k I was a bit shocked and it’s been on my mind. On one card he said, just not managing to survive despite working 2 jobs (he was adamant he wanted to work a second job again about 5 years ago for extra income)

clearly our finances are separate, with his 2nd job we were earning roughly the same until 6 months ago when I got a pay rise.

we have our own accounts and send money to a joint account for bills. His 2nd job is taxiing so he needed to take out a loan for his car, he pays that himself (don’t know if this is fair or not I could never decide)

we fight the odd time when times are tough money wise and I say right let’s sort this out and show me your outgoings and we can see if it’s fair. he thinks he pays out more than me, he is shit with money but I didn’t think to this degree.

i don’t know his taxi earnings, we pay joint bills and the rest is divided up so he pays petrol usually and some groceries and I cover majority of household stuff and anything for the kids as I shop more and enjoy it.

im hurt. Im angry. I feel so deceived. I feel so stupid. I feel sorry for myself that my big pay rise is going to be spent sorting his mess out.

I don’t know if I’m being over dramatic or not - he will tell me I am.

this only came about because he has pissed me off today for other reasons and I know he always avoids showing me his finances. I wanted to sort out money to see what kind of mortgage we could get and after he told me he had debt I wanted to know the full picture. He said he took his credit card off his Apple pay but I saw him use it today. He has at least 3 on there - yes I looked and I’m glad I did as it set the ball rolling for me to find this out today.

im sorry this is long. I’ve left the house to clear my head and I’m literally digesting this as I type.

any advice welcome. Am I the asshole for being dramatic, is this that big a deal? Who clears it?

how do I work out finances now?

he tool charge of the mortgage renewal 2 years ago, the next door neighbour is a mortgage advisor and must know all this yet I’m in the dark. I was getting a hard time for how many times I shop a week I’m in home bargains ffs

there is no gambling issues, I’ve never suspected this and he’s told me there isn’t but it’s something I will be checking to make sure. I just think he lives outside his means and has shit money management.

and tonight before this came out I was accused of being a bully coz I told him to stop acting like a manchild Angry

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OatFlatWhiteForMe · 29/06/2025 22:04

The pattern is ongoing, do you feel you can trust him in the future?

deirdrechilly · 29/06/2025 22:06

Honestly at this point I don’t think so. I feel like my life is flashing before my eyes. Dramatic I know. I’ve always trusted him relationship wise but he lies about every stupid wee thing, saying he cleaned when he didn’t, eating the last of something and saying he didn’t etc. it’s like if you can lie about really big stuff who even are you? Am I mug, I have no clue. We fought earlier as I was standing over him to clean the bathroom for guests coming - it’s his bathroom that I don’t use and he never does it and half asses it so we fought coz I knew he’d lie about doing it if I didn’t see it being done

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Jellycatspyjamas · 29/06/2025 22:12

That’s a huge amount of money to spend and have nothing to show for it. I’m guessing if he was spending it on stuff you would have seen it and asked questions. What is his plan for paying it off? That doesn’t involve your pay rise? I would be bloody furious tbh, I work so hard to avoid debt that for someone to drop that on me would be a huge breach of trust. I don’t think you’re over reacting at all.

cestlavielife · 29/06/2025 22:14

he tool charge of the mortgage renewal 2 years ago, the next door neighbour is a mortgage advisor and must know all this yet I’m in the dark.

Is your name on the mortgage
? You must have signed something

HenDoNot · 29/06/2025 22:15

So he whines “its not fair” and claims he pays out more than you, but he refuses to tell you how much he earns and how much debt he has, and won’t sit down with you so you can both work out who is paying out exactly how much for what.

I can guarantee you right now he earns more than you think he does, and has more debt than he’s admitted to.

So the question is, what’s he spending on?

When you say “he took charge of the mortgage renewal 2 years ago”… please tell me you’ve had sight of the documentation and know exactly how much has been taken out, who with, repayment terms, etc?

Cloverforever · 29/06/2025 22:15

Your life would be so much easier without this lead weight around your neck.

babasaclover · 29/06/2025 22:17

Do you actually love him? If you don’t then get rid

deirdrechilly · 29/06/2025 22:19

HenDoNot · 29/06/2025 22:15

So he whines “its not fair” and claims he pays out more than you, but he refuses to tell you how much he earns and how much debt he has, and won’t sit down with you so you can both work out who is paying out exactly how much for what.

I can guarantee you right now he earns more than you think he does, and has more debt than he’s admitted to.

So the question is, what’s he spending on?

When you say “he took charge of the mortgage renewal 2 years ago”… please tell me you’ve had sight of the documentation and know exactly how much has been taken out, who with, repayment terms, etc?

Yeah it’s joint names, I was happy to let him sort it and provided what I needed to, discussed the term, deal and signed it. He didn’t consolidate any of his debt then (that I know of)

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bigbreakfastclub · 29/06/2025 22:20

Dump him he’s useless

Cadenza12 · 29/06/2025 22:20

He pays it off. If you use your pay rise to clear it then he'll just start afresh. You need to sit down with him and work out how he's going to clear it. For a start he gets rid of the cards and starts to live within his means. His means, not yours.

FancyCatSlave · 29/06/2025 22:20

Divorce him.
I’m divorcing my husband mainly over a lack of trust over finances. He went bankrupt and I supported him, living a miserable life for years and years trying to get us back on our feet, he’s now run up huge debt again. There’s other issues too but I can’t get past it.

As you are married you can be liable for it all. He’ll take you down with him.

NeilDiamondsBlowDry · 29/06/2025 22:21

He is a liability

deirdrechilly · 29/06/2025 22:21

Sorry think I’m replying to the wrong things.

signed it all, discussed it with him and have access to it but I don’t look and have no interest (had no interest) as I’d no reason to think it was an issue. I don’t believe it will be an issue but I will be going through everything. I have a very important week ahead of me in work and personally as well. Great timing.

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deirdrechilly · 29/06/2025 22:23

FancyCatSlave · 29/06/2025 22:20

Divorce him.
I’m divorcing my husband mainly over a lack of trust over finances. He went bankrupt and I supported him, living a miserable life for years and years trying to get us back on our feet, he’s now run up huge debt again. There’s other issues too but I can’t get past it.

As you are married you can be liable for it all. He’ll take you down with him.

That’s awful I’m so sorry. Are you having to take liability for some of it? I live with my head in the sand for things like this, I’d never dream of buying anything over £50 without discussing it first so never expect him to do this

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OneFineDay13 · 29/06/2025 22:28

Is he expecting you to pay for his debt? I think it be over for me regardless

deirdrechilly · 29/06/2025 22:31

No I don’t think he will but he knows I wanted to move and get a bigger house and had plans for a better lifestyle, my first plan was for him to stop working in the taxi so much so we could have more time together. He knows I will want this cleared

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EggnogNoggin · 29/06/2025 22:32

I say this from a place hopelessness, not condescension: he's been like this for 20 years. This is who he is.

It's up to you how to move forward.

You're not wrong to be utterly exhausted and frustrated. You're wrong to expect change.

Once all the nasty separation stuff was over, don't you think you'd feel more at peace in day to day life? Perhaps you've outgrown him and it's time to fish ina different pond.

deirdrechilly · 29/06/2025 22:35

EggnogNoggin · 29/06/2025 22:32

I say this from a place hopelessness, not condescension: he's been like this for 20 years. This is who he is.

It's up to you how to move forward.

You're not wrong to be utterly exhausted and frustrated. You're wrong to expect change.

Once all the nasty separation stuff was over, don't you think you'd feel more at peace in day to day life? Perhaps you've outgrown him and it's time to fish ina different pond.

I think you’ve summed up my exact inner thoughts very eloquently. Thank you. We have 2 young kids, no family where we live. Their hearts would be broken but yes I do often think that. If I moved to family it would be to another country within the uk. It’s not a light decision to make but on top of a lot of fights and me being exhausted with him this last year or so, I think I need to seriously consider my options

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caffelattetogo · 29/06/2025 22:36

What’s he spending money on? Takeaways? Holidays? Smoking? Gambling? Nights out?

iamnotalemon · 29/06/2025 22:41

I would want proof that he didn’t remortgage to include some other debt you weren’t aware of!

To be honest though, I’d say it would be quite easy running up £21k over 10 years. I’m not saying it’s acceptable, but it would be different if it had been racked up over a shorter period.

You shouldn’t feel like a fool though and also your pay-rise shouldn’t have to pay it off for him.

PermanentTemporary · 29/06/2025 22:42

I’m not prepared to put up with someone else undermining my financial security. I’d be pretty terrified to stay with him. The fact that he’s so used to lying would really worry me and does mean the relationship is not what you believed it was.

Whatever you do, make sure you are always honest and open with your kids about money and how it works, model saving etc. I knew when I was 11 that I couldn’t trust a word my dad said about —anything— money. My older siblings suffered a lot because my mum pretended things were ok, by the time I came along the cracks were showing enough to let some light in and that helped. We are all screwed up about money though.

blueredyellowgreen1 · 29/06/2025 22:43

I think you need to first decide if you want to be with him or not. If you want to be with him, and even if you don’t want to, as it could still have financial implications on you, I think you should take control of his finances. He’s acting like a manchild, so you’re going to have to treat him like one. He has no access to money other than a budget that you give him based on what his essential needs are. You put a plan together and pay off all his debt with his money. G to 0 debt and if you don’t want to be with him, divorce him. He’s probably going to do this again, and it seems like you’re on the up in life. Do you really want to be with a man child who you have to watch over to see if he’s scrubbing a toilet properly? There are so many more men out there. Get out while you still have time to really enjoy your life and meet someone else.

deirdrechilly · 29/06/2025 22:44

Honestly think he’s spending it on rubbish, trips to the shop to buy juice, sweets, lunch, wouldn’t think twice about going to the corner shop for groceries for convenience instead of the cheaper big supermarket. I want to see bank statements tho, I need to know where it’s gone

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Jellycatspyjamas · 29/06/2025 22:46

The defining thing for me would be his attitude. I’d need to see him openly bringing his whole financial self to discussions, all his income and spending on the table and open for discussion. I’d need an honest apology and for him to have a clear plan for paying it all off. The problem is you don’t trust him, not even to clean a bathroom properly, so trusting him financially is going to be a stretch especially when he’s so closed about money. If it were me I’d worry about turning into someone I really don’t want to be - feeling like I needed to check up on him for my own peace of mind which just isn’t how I’d choose to live.

deirdrechilly · 29/06/2025 22:49

PermanentTemporary · 29/06/2025 22:42

I’m not prepared to put up with someone else undermining my financial security. I’d be pretty terrified to stay with him. The fact that he’s so used to lying would really worry me and does mean the relationship is not what you believed it was.

Whatever you do, make sure you are always honest and open with your kids about money and how it works, model saving etc. I knew when I was 11 that I couldn’t trust a word my dad said about —anything— money. My older siblings suffered a lot because my mum pretended things were ok, by the time I came along the cracks were showing enough to let some light in and that helped. We are all screwed up about money though.

yes, undermining my financial security exactly this. I said something similar to him last week and was actually surprised he agreed with me. I now know why. The lying about everything does hurt me, it’s stupid white lies but I do feel like I second guess everything he says because of it.

i feel like he’s taken advantage of the fact I don’t try and get over involved in his business. I’m happy for him to take charge of things and I’m happy to not interfere in his personal life but it’s hardly an example of a marriage is it.

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