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To hope that Trump gets his Nobel Peace Prize?

199 replies

OhShutUpThomas · 26/06/2025 07:43

I do not like anything about the man.

BUT, he is clearly after peace. I think he wants peace for two reasons; one, to enable more golf time, and two, to win a Nobel Peace Prize.
I don’t think the reason is because he is super kind and thoughtful or anything.

I think that his odd and unpredictable behaviour is starting to make other world leaders afraid of him (not to be confused with respect).
When others say ‘don’t do this or we will sanction you’ he says ‘don’t break your nuclear rules or I’ll bomb you’ and then proceeds to actually do so without delay.

This strange, autocratic, narcissistic style will either lead to huge issues, or might just be crazy enough to make other tyrants think twice about how they act. Enabling more time for golf.

I probably haven’t explained it very well. But his actions, whatever we think of them, have pretty much stopped the fledgling Israel/Iran war in its tracks. I wonder how long it would have gone on with nothing but disapproving glances and aid from the western world.

To reiterate: I don’t like Trump, I don’t think he’s right, but I do have to wonder whether his slightly unhinged leadership style might not scare the rest of the world into behaving a bit better.

YABU - I am talking rubbish
YANBU - I don’t like it either, but you might have a point

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CrazyAboutFurBabies · 26/06/2025 18:33

MiloMinderbinder925 · 26/06/2025 18:28

Another dreadful person trying to justify slaughtering children. It's no wonder the world is in such a dark place.

Please explain how I’m justifying slaughtering children?

MiloMinderbinder925 · 26/06/2025 18:33

WhereYouLeftIt · 26/06/2025 18:31

@MiloMinderbinder925 , if you want to participate in a thread all about genocide, slaughtered children and how evil Israel is, why don't you start one? This thread is supposed to be considering whether Trump's behaviour could bring about a good result and you are constantly derailing it.

I'm responding to people. Why don't you wag your finger at them?

Fimofriend · 26/06/2025 18:35

YABU

Efrogwraig · 26/06/2025 18:38

He wants the Nobel Peace Prize because President Obama won it. That's all there is to it.

Rickrolypoly · 26/06/2025 18:39

CrazyAboutFurBabies · 26/06/2025 18:25

Do you honestly, whole heartedly think
… children growing up around this abhorrent behaviour (Hamas) their whole lives seeing it as normal - are going to turn around one day and say, actually do you know what.. I’m not going to copy them and follow that road, I’m going to be a nice person and not murder and rape people. Come off it. It’s all they’ve known and as sad as it is, children/teens in Palestine know no different. Most of them don’t stand a chance.
Haven’t you seen the video footage of the children in the streets carrying knives and looking at the cameras saying death to us?

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When I read things like this I really hope that there is a hell because it's the only place for people like you

Quirkswork · 26/06/2025 18:48

He's wrecked NATO which has kept the peace (mostly) in Europe since WW2. So no I don't think the Nobel Peace Prize should be awarded to Trump.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 26/06/2025 18:49

CrazyAboutFurBabies · 26/06/2025 18:33

Please explain how I’m justifying slaughtering children?

Bore off.

Blueblell · 26/06/2025 18:55

Hmm he is making everyone buy more weapons

Jean8 · 26/06/2025 18:57

If Donald Trump of all people deserves a Nobel Peace Prize, I also deserve one for dealing with my kids. Absolutely preposterous…

Buffs · 26/06/2025 19:10

Trump’s only motivation is to do what best serves him personally,in that moment. End of.

pineapplecrushed · 26/06/2025 19:25

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Hotflushesandchilblains · 26/06/2025 19:29

CommissarySushi · 26/06/2025 07:51

YANBU. I think his bumbling, larger than life, supervillain persona is just that. He's not as stupid as he makes out. He's still an odious man though.

Cant agree. I hoped he was smarter than he seemed. And he may not be stupid. But he is ill informed and arrogant enough not to care. Similar to Boris Johnson.

pineapplecrushed · 26/06/2025 19:29

Rickrolypoly · 26/06/2025 09:44

Gives context?? Have you any idea what Israel have been doing in Palestine for the last 75 years. Why don't you educate yourself if you actually want context.

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Oh we're doing the 'going back in time' game?
How about taking it back to the Muslim conquest of Levant in the 7th century.
learn some history and all that........

SparklyLeader · 26/06/2025 19:30

Just because Iran has not retaliated does not mean Iran won't retaliate. I refer you to the World Trade Center, which, to be fair, was executed by Egyptians and funded by Saudis. Iran cannot mount an Army, but they can engage in terrorist attacks with the help of other Muslim countries.

Trump is a supremely self-consumed narcissist and exceedingly dangerous.

JustMeAndTheFish · 26/06/2025 19:34

If Trump is ever given a Nobel prize imho it will devalue the award for everyone who has ever received it and I shall campaign against it as much as I can.

ChubbyMorticia · 26/06/2025 19:43

“Bombing for peace is like f*cking for virginity.”

  • George Carlin
OhShutUpThomas · 26/06/2025 19:48

Quirkswork · 26/06/2025 18:48

He's wrecked NATO which has kept the peace (mostly) in Europe since WW2. So no I don't think the Nobel Peace Prize should be awarded to Trump.

How has he wrecked NATO?
He literally reiterated his commitment to NATO yesterday, and brought about the 5% GDP commitment from member countries.
This isn’t about liking him or not, these are just facts.

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Wombatboymom · 26/06/2025 19:50

You have an incredibly surface level and naive knowledge of world politics. I would suggest you educate yourself. I expect you think your post was quite clever but you have demonstrated a very clear lack of understanding.

Judecb · 26/06/2025 19:50

You clearly have no understanding about what is going on.

Rickrolypoly · 26/06/2025 19:53

pineapplecrushed · 26/06/2025 19:29

Oh we're doing the 'going back in time' game?
How about taking it back to the Muslim conquest of Levant in the 7th century.
learn some history and all that........

Grow up, this isn't going back in time. This is current day. I said it's been happening for 75 years.

ThistleTits · 26/06/2025 20:40

You have a strange understanding of peace. Bombing one side into submission is not a peaceful approach. Support of genocide is not peaceful.

MellersSmellers · 26/06/2025 20:44

But if he really wanted peace he'd have been on the phone to Bibi making it clear he would withdraw support for Israel if they struck Iran, wouldn't he? And he would have been insisting long ago that Israel cease it's action in Gaza.
No, he is just a self-publicist.
If he gets the Nobel Peace Prize it will cease to mean anything. They absolutely can't endorse the way he's acted or do anything to encourage future leaders to act in the same way. Our whole world order is being turned on its head.

SomewhereInTheMIdlands · 26/06/2025 22:32

Firstly it will cheapen the Noble Peace prize down to something from the back of a cornflakes packet. Secondly his whole existence is about grievances and revenge. After all the money, favours and options he has had in life, it is never enough, he will want more and be aggrieved that he didn't get the prize a decade earlier or not enough prizes and so on. He is a genetic psychopath so there are no limits to his obsessions.

SomewhereInTheMIdlands · 26/06/2025 22:36

WhereYouLeftIt · 26/06/2025 14:24

The problem would be, what would Trump consider peace? Because peace is not just an absence of bombing/shooting, it also includes stability and rebuilding.

I could see Trump happily cause a regime change in Iran and call that 'peace', then walk away whilst the country fell into chaos because there is nobody who could step in and provide stable government - there is no opposition (all killed) and the country would soon descend into anarchy - but he'd still call that 'peace'.

Likewise, he'd call Russia bombing Ukraine into surrender 'peace', but Ukraine would be destroyed and every European country would be arming for the inevitable outward push for Russia to regain the Soviet Union - but Trump would still call that 'peace' and expect a reward for it.

We are unlikely to get peace from Trump's actions. His inconsistent behaviour might encourage caution amongst countries considering aggression, but it still wouldn't be peace, just cold war and terrorism.

Peace in Gaza for Trump would be 'Miami on the Med' and not a Palestinian in sight.

gamerchick · 26/06/2025 22:48

I don't. I think he's had thoughts about changing the constitution so he can't get booted out, realised he can't, so wants to do the wartime president thing instead.