Why are Kneecap not in prison?

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But Lucy Connelly is? Kneecap told people to kill their MPs. Why have they not been arrested.

(To be very clear, I do not condone violence of any kind towards anyone, I'm just asking as this seems like a double standard, can someone explain?)

Don’t bother, the ones who claim Irish family or Irish heritage are the least likely to actually understand the impact of colonisation and civil war on a population. They always think it is “in the past”. The troubles are our lives, our present, it happened to us. They think it happened to “our ancestors” like the Holocaust.

I haven't suggested they are free speech hero's.

I'm just pointing out - one has been arrested and the other hasn't. Do you believe kneecap will be going to prison?

Kneecap absolutely are "left" coded. In line with whatever it is the "left" now are. Guardian approved.

Which sections on Wikipedia do you think I should read or look at? I'm sincerely asking. Like I said in my comment I'm genuinely looking to be talked out of my belief. Vague gestures in the direction of Wikipedia - the largest deposit of knowledge known to mankind, are far from helpful and underscore the apparent inability to explain this discrepancy. As does calling people stupid and ignorant when they are asking for the information. It looks as though you are unable to give it.

Given your interest I’d start here https://www.cps.gov.uk/about-cps/how-a-criminal-case-works which takes you through the criminal process.

The ones who “claim Irish heritage and family “ are the ones who forebears often suffered most as they had to emigrate because of the Troubles ( and before that the Famine)

Stop playing the victim.
Ireland is a very wealthy and privileged nation.
gfmag.com/data/richest-countries-in-the-world/

Part Irish isn't the same as being from NI. I'm Irish, living in Ireland and that isn't the same as being from NI, particularly from somewhere like West Belfast. The Troubles have left a legacy of intergenerational trauma, 39% of people in NI witnessed a traumatic event, one of the highest rates of PTSD in the world with people from North and East Belfast being particularly effected, the rate of mental illness is the highest in the UK, male suicide is twice the rate as in England. Your a fine one to speak on minimising being 'half Irish' doesn't qualify you to speak on this.

There is no excuse for Kneecap’s dreadful name or incitement to hatred and violence.

Kneecap isn’t going to help you get over the trauma. They’d like it to return.

Are these lads not from NI? Which is far from a very wealthy and privileged nation. NI is the poorest region in the UK and one of the poorest countries in Europe.

You don’t seem to know what “left” means … these days it’s used as very lazy shorthand for anyone who disagrees with Gbeebies and The Mail.

What do you think “left” or “leftie” means?

One was arrested after an investigation, the other is being investigated..

We will see what crime they have committed, and what they may be charged with, at the end of the investigation.

Remember when Free Speech warrior Clarkson said all Civil Servants should be taken outside and shot … what was he charged with?

I don't have any trauma?

Thanks for your completely uninformed opinion.

"Fuck tha police" was NWA, not Rage against the machine.

Focusing on past bitterness and hatred is not the way to improve NI’s economy.
Kneecap romanticises some of the savagery of the past ( even with their name )

Pearl clutching at its finest.

Pop bands have been scandalising people for decades, from Elvis onwards.

You know what I meant . The trauma you’re describing ( I presumed you were from the region apologies)

Utter rubbish.

I'm not sure how you can make sweeping statements claiming to know what people you don't think think or feel and keep a straight face.

Not by inciting murder and hatred …( have you even read the thread )

Who said it was? I was just querying why you were bringing the wealth of Ireland into the discussion of a band that hails from an impoverished part of the UK. It didn't make any sense but maybe you can clarify?

Were you even alive in the 80s?

The issue is at Cochella the band openly comdemed Israel and said "free palestine" which is not Americas stance on the topic so it's led to people trawling through the Internet dragging up anything they can to discredit the band.

My point was that dwelling on the past is unhelpful. Ireland is currently in much better place. There are countries that are suffering oppression NOW . Ireland is affluent and at peace and should focus on staying at peace .
Can’t stand the anti English hatred . ( or anti Irish hatred which Kneecap’s attitudes would help to revive)

My mother grew up in the North in what was termed “bandit country “
I remember it in the 70’s and 80’s as I was often there .
Im so very glad things are better now.
Can’t stand the stupidity of Kneecap who are definitely too young to have experienced how bad things were

They don't romanticise it but they don't pretend it doesn't exist. A lot of their music is about bringing catholics and protestants together. Not to mention they donated the grant money they won back to Shankill youth project.

I haven't minimised anything, I lost a family member ffs and have spoken on here previously about having PTSD myself.

It's pathetic attempting to use generational trauma as a justification for calling for people to be murdered. It's so bloody offensive.