Why are Kneecap not in prison?

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But Lucy Connelly is? Kneecap told people to kill their MPs. Why have they not been arrested.

(To be very clear, I do not condone violence of any kind towards anyone, I'm just asking as this seems like a double standard, can someone explain?)

People do care about the law being applied fairly and consistently actually and that’s what this is about more so than it is about the group themselves.

I think many people have forgotten about the Labour councillor who called for far right protestors to have their throats cut. This was last year but his trial was delayed until August. Will be interesting to see what the outcome of that is.

Having them perform at trnsmt in Glasgow would be lunacy.
West of Scotland has a big enough sectarian problem without adding these clowns to the mix.

Connolly told people to go and set fire to all the hotels. People then went and set fire to hotels. Her comments were made as serious public disorder was beginning and her tweets were seen by 300,000 people. What she said was not as part of an ongoing joke, or banter. It was very clearly a call to arms fuelled by misguided racism and anger.

Kneecap told people to kill their MPs and afaik since they said it, nobody has actually gone and killed their MP as a consequence of their song. What they said was vile and wrong, of course, but they are a band known for making crude political statements as part of their entertainment. People don’t carry out the acts they sing about after going to their concerts. If they do, you can bet your bottom dollar there will be public outrage.

I’m unsure why people are saying context is irrelevant. Context is crucial when judges are deciding on sentences. It makes a huge difference to the length of incarceration, and so it should (although of course Kneecap haven’t even been charged with any offence yet).

For example, Wayne Couzens was given such a long sentence because his offending was done in the context of his role as a police officer.

But given multiple MPs have been murdered in recent history do you not think this remark crossed a line in any way? Does the liability hinge on whether somebody follows through the incitement?

To you pathetic imbeciles justifying the behaviour of this filth, just a little reminder that 4 years ago the lovely (by all accounts and as stated by members of all political parties) David Amess was murdered by a terrorist while he was meeting and helping constituents.

More of this is what these pondlife are advocating for. They almost definitely will not be punished because they are threatening Conservatives and that is seen as absolutely fine by the ‘tolerant’ left.

Wasn't this comment made 2 years ago? Why is it such an issue now? Makes you wonder what the real issue is 🤔

I would say it’s to do with the audience who would have heard the comments on what kind of people they were Connollys comments were heard by absolute thousands of people. Kneecaps comment would’ve been heard by whoever was at their concert wasn’t a political rally it was an entertaining concert. Ask someone above said context is everything.

Are you joking? Overprivileged idiots who got a government grant to cos play at being terrorists? Who openly advocate for violence against MPs and support violent proscribed terror organizations?

imagine making excuses for that

They’ve been making a number of violent Incitements and terror supporting for months including at Coachella

Absolutely. Not forgetting the 6 MPs murdered by Irish Republicans (who I’m guessing Kneecap support as a movement, given their crystal clear views on Republicanism and their ‘fenian fans’?)

Well Lucy Connelly said what she said during a period of unrest, but there’s no reason to suppose she had any influence on anyone, she had no audience or special status. For whatever reason she entered a guilty plea, if she hadn’t I don’t think she’d have been convicted.

Kneecap do have an audience but I’d agree it’s pretty obvious they aren’t issuing a serious call to arms, so nothing will come of it, though I think they’ll have to be more careful as their following gets bigger if they don’t want to loose their mainstream platform, which they clearly don’t.

I seen the speech, and I understand as they are from Belfast the opinion that they already hold over the British government may not be understood from those not of the same background but I think there is alot more to why the media is dragging up this one story.

I’m as sick of these brainless lefty mob types as I am Trump and his ilk. Stupid, vain, self serving, self defeating and lacking anything that resembles critical thinking.

Being a moderate in 2025 is a bloody horrible place to be as we’re stuck between the 2 most toxic sides imaginable.

Just go ahead and say it then, you clearly want to imply something? Go on, be brave.

As a dyed in wool lefty, it certainly looks like a comment that crosses a line. It has been referred to a counter-terrorism unit to determine if it requires further investigation. I agree that, whether or not anyone follows through, is not necessarily relevant to determining whether a crime occurred.

I do, though, think that you cannot throw people in prison without an investigation, charge, or court hearing, which is what the OP (and others) seems to be calling for.

It seems as if someone went through footage of their old concerts with a fine tooth comb 🤔

What has being a lefty got to do with it? In my mind, lefties tend to object to violence, and so calling for murder and supporting a group who kill children with their bare hands is the antithesis of what they stand for.

I agree a proper judicial process should be followed, but it will be, because we don’t detain people without trial (looking at you Trump - where is Mr Garcia????)

🤔 indeed. Why not just come out and say it? I have a feeling this will descend into accusations with antisemitism undertones.

Interesting reaction there 🙄

Just say it. You’re clearly thinking something, so be like your heroes and spit it!

I think they’re great

Others on tbe thread seem to be going down the "two-tier policing" on a right vs left basis. I think those comments show ignorance.

Why Lucy Connolly? Why not all the other political prisoners locked up for Tweeting opinions?

They'll pay a heavy price for being stupid. Many people lose a lot by mouthing about sensitive subjects.

The tories threat was awful but given where they grew up, when poster's of Irish politicians are regularly burned on mountain bomb-fires, they probably didn't understand the implications.

The hamas comments were off tbe scale, if they lose everything, lesson learnt, they've only themselves to blame.

I don't think Lucy should be in prison either, she deserved to be called out, even fined, but imprisonment for years is OTT.

I agree in that the two tier isn’t right versus left as such. The police are anti woman and pro woke with all the prejudice that entails.