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Why are Kneecap not in prison?

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BlossomBlanket · 29/04/2025 19:49

But Lucy Connelly is? Kneecap told people to kill their MPs. Why have they not been arrested.

(To be very clear, I do not condone violence of any kind towards anyone, I'm just asking as this seems like a double standard, can someone explain?)

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trainplane · 09/05/2025 18:18

And how many of those politicians were sent to prison ? An apology juxtaposed with their consistent message and actions for unity and peace is enough.

I’ll leave it to Damien Dempsey “When the leaders of the world turn their heads away from the genocide of the most oppressed people on earth, and the strongest in my opinion, bearing the brunt of the trauma from a German genocide that they had nothing to do with, three young peaceful warrior poets from the occupied colonised six counties of the North of Ireland are putting everything they have out on the line to call out the war criminal Netanyahu and his enablers Donald Trump and Joe Biden...”

OpheliaWasntMad · 09/05/2025 18:39

Traybake99 · 09/05/2025 18:01

Stupid but not sectarian?

Yes - it may well be the case that they are too stupid to see the possible consequences of their actions. I accept they’re stupid rather than sectarian.

devourfeculence · 09/05/2025 18:41

trainplane · 09/05/2025 18:18

And how many of those politicians were sent to prison ? An apology juxtaposed with their consistent message and actions for unity and peace is enough.

I’ll leave it to Damien Dempsey “When the leaders of the world turn their heads away from the genocide of the most oppressed people on earth, and the strongest in my opinion, bearing the brunt of the trauma from a German genocide that they had nothing to do with, three young peaceful warrior poets from the occupied colonised six counties of the North of Ireland are putting everything they have out on the line to call out the war criminal Netanyahu and his enablers Donald Trump and Joe Biden...”

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Sent to prison for what?

Gloriia · 09/05/2025 18:41

'three young peaceful warrior poets from the occupied colonised six counties of the North of Ireland are putting everything they have out on the line to call out the war criminal '

This is a joke yes? 3 young peaceful warrior poets 🤣🤣

OpheliaWasntMad · 09/05/2025 18:43

trainplane · 09/05/2025 18:18

And how many of those politicians were sent to prison ? An apology juxtaposed with their consistent message and actions for unity and peace is enough.

I’ll leave it to Damien Dempsey “When the leaders of the world turn their heads away from the genocide of the most oppressed people on earth, and the strongest in my opinion, bearing the brunt of the trauma from a German genocide that they had nothing to do with, three young peaceful warrior poets from the occupied colonised six counties of the North of Ireland are putting everything they have out on the line to call out the war criminal Netanyahu and his enablers Donald Trump and Joe Biden...”

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I don’t think Kneecap should go to prison . I think the OP was just pointing out that another stupid comment did end up in a prison sentence.
Personally , I just think it’s up to all of us to call out stupid/ dangerous/ racist/ violent stuff without doing “whataboutery “

OpheliaWasntMad · 09/05/2025 18:46

Gloriia · 09/05/2025 18:41

'three young peaceful warrior poets from the occupied colonised six counties of the North of Ireland are putting everything they have out on the line to call out the war criminal '

This is a joke yes? 3 young peaceful warrior poets 🤣🤣

Well yes - that’s a hilarious description . On every single level . But the irony will be lost I fear .

OpheliaWasntMad · 09/05/2025 18:48

I think Kneecap are possibly just druggie idiots … 🤷‍♀️

trainplane · 09/05/2025 19:02

Gloriia · 09/05/2025 18:41

'three young peaceful warrior poets from the occupied colonised six counties of the North of Ireland are putting everything they have out on the line to call out the war criminal '

This is a joke yes? 3 young peaceful warrior poets 🤣🤣

No it’s not a joke.

Traybake99 · 09/05/2025 19:13

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WhereIsMyJumper · 09/05/2025 19:19

OpheliaWasntMad · 09/05/2025 18:43

I don’t think Kneecap should go to prison . I think the OP was just pointing out that another stupid comment did end up in a prison sentence.
Personally , I just think it’s up to all of us to call out stupid/ dangerous/ racist/ violent stuff without doing “whataboutery “

Which is why I joined this thread in the first place. The stupid and ignorant comments that were posted about NI (although I appreciate you didn’t make those comments)

OpheliaWasntMad · 09/05/2025 19:21

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Can you explain what stupid and racist comments I ( not others me - @OpheliaWasntMad ) have made.
I genuinely want to know . ( I’m not implying I’m perfect- we are all capable of ignorance and racism. Human beings are imperfect and we learn from each other)

maggiesleapp · 09/05/2025 19:25

Gloriia · 09/05/2025 18:41

'three young peaceful warrior poets from the occupied colonised six counties of the North of Ireland are putting everything they have out on the line to call out the war criminal '

This is a joke yes? 3 young peaceful warrior poets 🤣🤣

The name is Northern Ireland. Colonised/occupied! Seriously this is 2025 and until a majority decide otherwise Northern Ireland it will remain. Statements like this only entrench the two communities further.
Damien Dempsey trying to make himself edgy and relevant, bit like kneecap.

trainplane · 09/05/2025 19:35

maggiesleapp · 09/05/2025 19:25

The name is Northern Ireland. Colonised/occupied! Seriously this is 2025 and until a majority decide otherwise Northern Ireland it will remain. Statements like this only entrench the two communities further.
Damien Dempsey trying to make himself edgy and relevant, bit like kneecap.

When did the majority decide? That’s kind of important before you proclaim how communities are entrenched.

Traybake99 · 09/05/2025 19:37

OpheliaWasntMad · 09/05/2025 19:21

Can you explain what stupid and racist comments I ( not others me - @OpheliaWasntMad ) have made.
I genuinely want to know . ( I’m not implying I’m perfect- we are all capable of ignorance and racism. Human beings are imperfect and we learn from each other)

You appear to have judged kneecap on the basis of their identity as (vocal) Irish Republicans, you have repeatedly lumped together 'the irish' as if Irish people are a homogeneous mass rather than a diverse nation with a variety of opinions, political goals, thoughts etc
You have said, without evidence, that Kneecap are seeking a return to trauma in Northern Ireland despite the evidence to the contrary and your own eventual acceptance that they aren't sectarian.

Gloriia · 09/05/2025 19:42

'You appear to have judged kneecap on the basis of their identity as (vocal) Irish Republicans'

No one has judged them on that.

Not aimed at me but I could not give a rat's ass if they are republicans or loyalists. I doubt many care nowadays about this stuff.

They have been judged on the nasty crap they spouted then denied like the stupid idiots that they are. As if the evidence isn't there for all to see.

trainplane · 09/05/2025 19:53

Gloriia · 09/05/2025 19:42

'You appear to have judged kneecap on the basis of their identity as (vocal) Irish Republicans'

No one has judged them on that.

Not aimed at me but I could not give a rat's ass if they are republicans or loyalists. I doubt many care nowadays about this stuff.

They have been judged on the nasty crap they spouted then denied like the stupid idiots that they are. As if the evidence isn't there for all to see.

You are one of the posters who consistently, in numerous posts, attributed the comment that a one-post poster posted regarding the politics of David Amess to ‘Kneecap supporters” even though it was one post with no other context other than to discredit the man’s politics, and most likely was posted by a UK poster who was familiar with those policies but it fitted your judgement / profile of a cohort of posters on this thread.

OpheliaWasntMad · 09/05/2025 20:00

OpheliaWasntMad · 09/05/2025 19:21

Can you explain what stupid and racist comments I ( not others me - @OpheliaWasntMad ) have made.
I genuinely want to know . ( I’m not implying I’m perfect- we are all capable of ignorance and racism. Human beings are imperfect and we learn from each other)

My mother is from a Catholic / Nationalist community in NI. My dad from the south. I definitely don’t hold any racist or prejudiced views about Irishness because I am 💯 Irish heritage and nothing else . I might be guilty of having an old fashioned view of Irishness . But I visit both north and south and have a home in the Gaeltacht. I genuinely love Ireland and the Irish language .
I don’t approve of stupid druggie bands threatening the peace for the sake of notoriety and £

Gloriia · 09/05/2025 20:11

trainplane · 09/05/2025 19:53

You are one of the posters who consistently, in numerous posts, attributed the comment that a one-post poster posted regarding the politics of David Amess to ‘Kneecap supporters” even though it was one post with no other context other than to discredit the man’s politics, and most likely was posted by a UK poster who was familiar with those policies but it fitted your judgement / profile of a cohort of posters on this thread.

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Sorry, I'm missing your point here. So because I consistently referred to an offensive post that means I'm judging kneecap on the basis of their identity as irish republicans?

I repeat no, I don't care about their identities I have judged them on their incitement to hate. I'd say exactly the same if Oasis said kill your MP and up hamas.

Traybake99 · 09/05/2025 20:31

'An old fashioned view' so you stereotype Irish people and expect them to conform to your view?

I know this is broken record stuff but how are they threatening the peace? The suggestion is bonkers from so many angles, that people in NI are so sensitive that a band are going to bring about a return the the troubles where others have failed by actually murdering people or bringing down the government. That that band are advocating for a return to the troubles despite the wealth of evidence to the contrary and your own view that they are not sectarian.
Now your position is that they are stupid (never heard that one before about Irish people) despite all being bilingual, previous career as a qualified teacher, having written plays, been successful and articulate advocates for the Irish language (where many others have failed), developed a successful music career and having a critically acclaimed and award winning film.

trainplane · 09/05/2025 20:40

Gloriia · 09/05/2025 20:11

Sorry, I'm missing your point here. So because I consistently referred to an offensive post that means I'm judging kneecap on the basis of their identity as irish republicans?

I repeat no, I don't care about their identities I have judged them on their incitement to hate. I'd say exactly the same if Oasis said kill your MP and up hamas.

No, sorry if I was unclear. You said “Just constant enabling and minimising. Oh and let's not forget the post that DA may not have been a lovely man apparently due to his beliefs. Just awful.”
my point is that you attributed the original post on DA (probably made by someone with no interest in the topic of kneecap) to the cohort of posters who are challenging your view on Kneecap because it fits your profile of said posters.

Traybake99 · 09/05/2025 20:40

Gloriia · 09/05/2025 19:42

'You appear to have judged kneecap on the basis of their identity as (vocal) Irish Republicans'

No one has judged them on that.

Not aimed at me but I could not give a rat's ass if they are republicans or loyalists. I doubt many care nowadays about this stuff.

They have been judged on the nasty crap they spouted then denied like the stupid idiots that they are. As if the evidence isn't there for all to see.

If they were loyalists would they be required to condemn the actions of the IRA?

You and others have used the comments, that no one has defended, as a jumping off point to make unfounded assertions on a range of unrelated topics and spout your ill informed options on Northern Ireland.

And judging by your mates comments she obviously thinks you and the anti-kneecap camp comments are founded in anti-irish prejudice.

Gloriia · 09/05/2025 20:46

'If they were loyalists'

Again, I don't care if they are loyalists or republicans it is what they said that is the problem.

Traybake99 · 09/05/2025 21:01

Gloriia · 09/05/2025 20:46

'If they were loyalists'

Again, I don't care if they are loyalists or republicans it is what they said that is the problem.

So what they said was about Tory MPs and Palestine and yet there are pages and pages of discussion about NI, the IRA, a return to the troubles etc.
Why is that?

Gloriia · 09/05/2025 21:29

Traybake99 · 09/05/2025 21:01

So what they said was about Tory MPs and Palestine and yet there are pages and pages of discussion about NI, the IRA, a return to the troubles etc.
Why is that?

Oh i cba to trawl back but in a nutshell because some suggested that these poor wee laddies had been brought up in a post apocalyptic environment so we must accept their fury and shit stirring or some such, so others tried to point out you can't blame the troubles for these gobshite's hatred. Then we went off on a tangent about ni.

Anway, they have stayed quiet so perhaps that'll be that.

Traybake99 · 09/05/2025 21:39

Gloriia · 09/05/2025 21:29

Oh i cba to trawl back but in a nutshell because some suggested that these poor wee laddies had been brought up in a post apocalyptic environment so we must accept their fury and shit stirring or some such, so others tried to point out you can't blame the troubles for these gobshite's hatred. Then we went off on a tangent about ni.

Anway, they have stayed quiet so perhaps that'll be that.

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Yes you will probably forget about them when you aren't being told to be angry.
Meanwhile they'll be playing one of the biggest festivals in the world, multiple UK dates and a sold out tour of US and Canada in Autumn so not that quiet.

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