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Wanting to look good and be a 10/10 girl? Men specifically?

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ThisChic · 04/04/2025 20:48

People always criticise others for caring about their looks, but let's face it, we all appreciate beauty and strive to look our best.

I feel as though most women can be seen as '10/10' if they have good hygiene and skin/make up, i.e the whitened teeth, hair extensions, glowy fake tan, slim and big breasts.

I feel like I have a few obvious flaws; small boobs is the main one, but also teeth and hair that could be 'glowed up'.

I see that 95% of the women on TikTok on Instagram with 100 - 500k followers are just slim, tanned women with big boobs. All different facial features, but heavily made up, thin and big boobs.

Am I being unreasonable to want to make myself look hotter by fixing my flaws?

I would make any decision for surgery for myself anyway, but I just wonder what peoples' thoughts are!

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Jackiepumpkinhead · 05/04/2025 08:42

You are ridiculously shallow, grow up.

claudiaswinklemen · 05/04/2025 08:43

You seem to be stuck in some real cognitive dissonance. On the one hand you say you want to look like these women for you, and on the other it's all about what these women look like and that these men find attractive.

OctoberandApril · 05/04/2025 08:44

TulipTuesday · 04/04/2025 20:52

To look attractive to men? They’ll fuck anything, so don’t bother with too much effort 🤷🏻‍♀️

Not all men.

A lot of men I know wouldn't.

LetGoLetThem1234 · 05/04/2025 08:46

You do realise that breast implants have to be revised every 10 years or thereabouts?

So you are going to need to go through the process at least twice - with all the risks of complications, and scarring. Operations are not guaranteed to be smooth sailing.

Yes, you want to look as beautiful as you can when you are young.

But consider the long term consequences of surgery.

Wanting to look good and be a 10/10 girl? Men specifically?
MeliusMoriQuamServire · 05/04/2025 08:48

I wish there would be some clinic where people would be injected with self respect and self esteem instead of botox. Preferably at birth. Would save so many women so much trouble. And then they could proceed looking for a life partner, who is attracted to them because of their brains, personality and values. And not 'big boobs and bangin bod'. You sound desperate, OP.

And fyi, you don't need those 'big boobs' you so covet. I'm tall, slim, long-legged ex-model. Small boobs. No fake teeth, nails, lips, hair, lashes - no fake anything. I get shit load of attention, groping, whistling, slobbering over, pestering, leering, beeping horns, following, shouting obscenities at me, downright assaults. Had two drunken men loudly discussing how they'd love to fuck me in 'that arse' when I was walking by with my child, minding our business.

You want that? Or do you what, expect that Brad Pitts and Hemsworths will aproach you chivalrously, with a red rose between their teeth and will (respectfully) swoop you off your feet?

Ultimately it's not that complicated. You don't need any sort of boobs. Men fuck pies, pillows, gaps in sofas, vacuum cleaners, holes in trees. If you want all the leering and ass-fuck offers, just wear a short skirt, be loud and make yourself look approachable and available. You'll get more attention than you'll now what to do with.

Emanresuunknown · 05/04/2025 08:52

ThisChic · 04/04/2025 21:51

@Masmavi Funnily enough, I don't actually have a Tiktok account I just scroll through and look at content!

And I think it's natural for young women to want to be found attractive by men. Men notice beauty, they want to sleep with attractive women.

Do all the married women you know look like that?
In fact... Do ANY of the married women you know look like that? I'd hazard a guess not.
Because actually most men find normal looking women perfectly attractive, billions of women around the world fairly easily find male partners without looking like a pumped up Instagram influencer.

OP you seem to have fixated on this I'm guessing because you are single and are looking for a 'reason' you aren't finding a bloke. Honestly you need to do some work on yourself and your values and what you think is important in life - you might then find you have more success in finding a partner.

OctoberandApril · 05/04/2025 08:53

NeelyOHara · 05/04/2025 07:16

Who has fake boobs these days? They are extremely unfashionable and cringe, Are you stuck in 2010?

A lot of younger women are.

I'm not into having work done. I've never had anything and I'm in my 50's but I do know what women are having done.

AngelinaFibres · 05/04/2025 08:56

ZiggyPlaysGuitarrr · 05/04/2025 08:32

Well personally I don't follow insta models and I've no interest in the type of shallow (and likely porn obsessed) men who rate women out of 10. That's absolutely grim.

I've never had any cosmetic surgery, hair extensions, spray tan lashes... I do make an effort to wear nice clothes, I get my hair and nails done, I eat fairly well, drink lots of water, sleep well, etc. I think I scrub up ok, I'm no great beauty but it's not something I can bring myself to care about. I have a lovely husband, lovely kids, a nice home, good friends (male and female) and a happy life.

Of the women I know who really invest a great deal of time, money and effort into their looks:

One is genuinely the most naturally beautiful woman I've ever seen. But her self esteem is rock bottom. She's obsessed with looking perfect and her home looking perfect. She's forever redecorating, cleaning or at the gym or beauty salon because all she sees is flaws (that are invisible to everyone else)

One is fixated on certain features she hates (which are absolutely fine) and constantly posting gym selfies for validation. She would love a settled relationship but it's never happened for her.

One has an eating disorder and an emotionally abusive husband.

All 3 suffer with depression.

I think it's your self esteem you need to focus on rather than your looks. I'd far rather spend my time enjoying my life than worrying about being beautiful.

Edited

I'm in a walking group. We're all aged 50 to 60 something. A week ago we had a new male member join us. He seemed nice and was a perfectly pleasant looking mid fifties man. I would assume that several of our single female members would have found him attractive. We went for a meal at a lovely local restaurant after the walk. They do fabulous Italian food . We all ordered nice lunch things. He didn't. He sat with a black coffee and nothing else. He explained that he wanted to get down to 12% body fat ( that's the young influencer/ Spencer Matthews look) so he was extremely strict about what he ate and the times of day when he ate. He said he wouldn't deviate from this even if he was on a date. It wasn't because he was training for a marathon/ triathlon/iron man event it was because he liked the 'look'. We are a group of mostly retired / semi retired professionals of all shapes, sizes and heights. Everyone was chatting and laughing and enjoying in the food and each others company. We've all got been-up-on-the-hills hair and we're all in walking type clothes. Everyone is happy in themselves. We are what we are. He just sat there with his black coffee talking about weighing his food and spending all his time at the gym to achieve this perfect body. Gave me the ick.

DreamerIzzy · 05/04/2025 09:01

HermioneWeasley · 04/04/2025 22:11

Men have been arrested for having sex with the exhaust pipe of a car and a pile of leaves.

I really wouldn’t put in too much effort.

This

😂😂

MightAsWellBeGretel · 05/04/2025 09:03

Sorry, but what you're describing to me is a porn star, not beautiful at all.

I'd condisider these to be some of the most beautiful women ever: Naomi Campbell, Grace Kelly, Vivienne Leigh, Sienna Miller, Cindy Crawford, Angelina Jolie.

You probably don't, which tell us what? Beauty is subjective - even to men. Who'd have thunk it, eh?

Maybe give 'Insta' a rest if you're seriously considering surgery and pick up a book. It's filling your mind with garbage.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 05/04/2025 09:03

Fancycheese · 04/04/2025 20:53

How old are you? I’m probably going to sound ancient, but honestly this kind of preoccupation with how you look does tend to fade with age. I’m not trying to be patronising. It’s genuinely freeing. I used to desperately want a rhinoplasty years ago and now I’m so glad I didn’t go ahead with it.

There’s a risk that one surgery can lead to another if the true issue with self worth hasn’t been resolved.

would some time off TikTok maybe help? I don’t think seeing other women, or yourself, as a score out of ten is healthy. That’s for immature men. You’re truly so much more than what you look like.

and I think so-called “flaws” make people look interesting! Everyone looks the bloody same now. It’s creepy.

having said that, it’s not “unreasonable” to get cosmetic surgery. I’d just be sure you’re doing it for the right reasons.

Could not agree more 👏

AngelinaFibres · 05/04/2025 09:09

My exhusband was found dead in a budget hotel room surrounded by sex toys, viagra and the anti depressants he'd used to kill himself ( one of the toys was a silicone cube with a vagina on one side and an arsehole on the other). He'd had sex and then taken a massive overdose. Honestly Op men like him ( he loved the big tits look) will have sex with anything at the best and the worst times of their lives. They'll have anal sex with a lump of plastic they've ordered from Amazon.

ZebedeeDougalFlorence · 05/04/2025 09:10

SallyD00lally · 04/04/2025 20:54

My thoughts would probably get me banned to be honest.

Are you new to Mumsnet or just at a loose end tonight?

Or actually a man.

BloodyRacket · 05/04/2025 09:13

ThisChic · 04/04/2025 21:21

No it's not about thinking it will make me life perfect - I'm happy with other areas of my life. It's just about wanting to look good just because...if I can, with a bit of help, why not?

Look ‘good’ by who’s standards.

Different aesthetics have been revered during different phases of history. Different cultures revere different aesthetics.

There is no universal ‘good’ or ‘perfect’ and social media has created the current aesthetic. Lots of men I know can’t stand the heavily made up look and would avoid women who look like that, assuming (wrongly often) they are vacuous and superficial.

Different people are naturally attracted to different things. Societal norms can influence that. Social media magnifies that effect.

What I can tell you 100% is that striving for perfection leads to dissatisfaction. Because nothing is perfect and what might be seen as perfect changes.

Nameychangington · 05/04/2025 09:14

Ohdearieme2025 · 05/04/2025 03:47

Oh dear, your mistake is in being interested in beta simps, because those are literally the ONLY men who follow/like/subscribe to women they don't know. It is just the most genuinely pathetic and embarrassing and humiliating behaviour.

Yep, that includes any of your boyfriends/husbands. If you're reading this and getting upset for your Nigel you're just as sad as he is. 😆

Imagine a grown man sneaking around liking the posts of women he's never met and will never meet in the desperate hope she'll notice him and like him back 😅😂Utterly, completely and truly pathetic.

Women and men both like to look at attractive strangers. Nobody, except a beta simp or a teenage girl, thinks following/liking/subscribing to them to look at their pictures is normal, necessary or adult behaviour.

So if you want to attract pathetic, unmanly men (no matter how much testosterone they might be taking) keep worrying about what these clowns think.

These men do not even exist for me, let alone give a flying fart in a windstorm what they think of how I look 😅

This.

OP you are thinking of having actual surgery on your body, with the pain and risk that involves, to potentially appeal to the men you wouldn't want to sit next to on a bus.

Have a word with yourself.

BloodyRacket · 05/04/2025 09:14

ZebedeeDougalFlorence · 05/04/2025 09:10

Or actually a man.

Yes. A man or a woman with internalised misogyny.

Screamingabdabz · 05/04/2025 09:15

This reminds me of a crass joke I used to hear at secondary school in the 80s:

Why do women have tits?

So men will talk to them.

Do you really want fake silicon tits just so that men will talk to you op? If you were my dd that would make me feel very sad for you.

I was an unattractive young woman… but I still held my standards and still had nice boyfriends and now growing old and into the sunset with my lovely DH. It’s self esteem you need, not silicon.

Vannymcvan · 05/04/2025 09:16

I think you need to come off social media and get some therapy OP. I really hope this is a wind up. Surely no one is this vacuous

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 05/04/2025 09:16

I am, objectively, very plain. I mean big nose, dreadful teeth, short legs - I have never, in my entire life, even qualified as 'quite pretty'. I look, basically, like a bloke with boobs. And I've been married three times and shagged by I can't even remember how many others. I'm now over 60, my boobs are round my ankles, I've got wrinkles and my eyes have almost disappeared. I am STILL getting hit on.

You know why? Because I have self confidence. I have achieved highly in my chosen career so I don't feel 'lesser' to anyone in the world. I don't care about male attention and this is like a flame to all those men who want a woman who doesn't need them.

Am still very very happily single, because men are, mostly, utter twats.

pleasepackitin · 05/04/2025 09:17

Also op, lots of young women are getting their fillers and BBL’s reversed. What does that tell you?

5128gap · 05/04/2025 09:19

You are correct in that any woman with enough time, money and inclination can get very close to the look you describe as 10/10. You have said yourself how it is done. However, not everyone would agree that's the epitome of beauty. People respond to a variety of looks and if that look isn't natural for you, by trying to force yourself into the mould, you risk suppressing the characteristics that are unique to you and make you beautiful as an individual.

Im not going to lecture you on being shallow. Women are taught from childhood our looks matter and that isnt unlearned by a telling off from other women. So what i would say, is if you want to elevate your appearance, come at it from the point of being the best version you can if you. This means forgetting fakery to give you a body shape, skin tone and hair colour thats not natural for you, and taking great care of what you have. Look after your body with excellent nutrition and excercise, use products to care for skin and hair. Choose clothes that make you feel happy.

If you must put a score on it, be your own personal 10/10 in health, fitness and care for your wellbeing. You will see the benefit in your physical apoearance as a bonus.

Over40Overdating · 05/04/2025 09:19

@BloodyRacket maybe it’s the age or stage of life I’m at, but I am genuinely gobsmacked by the level of internalised misogyny I’m seeing from younger women at the moment.

I expect it from women of my age and up to an extent - and I’m addressing my own issues with it on aging which have taken me by surprise - but seeing it in women 30 and under has shocked me.

I think social media in general and people like that Gollum Andrew Tate have done levels of damage to young women that we don’t have the full picture of yet.

JasmineAllen · 05/04/2025 09:21

booksandbakinglover · 04/04/2025 20:54

I’m a firm believer in if you’re not happy with something, change it.
I have had my breasts enlarged over a decade ago and used to get my lips filled (I’ve stopped lip filler now though due to pregnancy and breastfeeding, and tbh I don’t think I’ll go back to getting it done). I want invisible braces next to straighten my teeth

I don’t know why people get looked down on for making themselves feel more confident in their own skin. I don’t regret my breast augmentation at all!

I don’t regret my breast augmentation at all!

But doesn't having surgery to replace them every 10-15 years bother you? Or the very real possibility they might breakdown and cause you health problems before that?

Breast implants aren't designed to last for life.

Edited for typo

Renamedyetagain · 05/04/2025 09:22

ThisChic · 05/04/2025 03:13

@CalleOcho I see what you meant by 'attitude' now.

As a fellow 30 year old woman with natural 32E’s and size 8/10- I can hand on heart say big boobs are nothing special and I get lots of unwanted unsolicited misogynistic comments from men - but so do my friends of all shapes and sizes.

I know those unsolicited comments are unwanted and not pleasant, but at least those men are saying you are desirable and sexy. Even if their behaviour is unacceptable.....

Those same men would be ridiculing women with small boobs.

Give me a fucking break....this is so depressing....there is SO much wrong with this post:

  • The pathetic and desperate need for validation
  • The assumption that you're considered sexually attractive if you're sexually harassed
  • The interest in being sexually harassed if it affirms your sexual 'worth'
  • The lack of awareness in perception by others, even on an anonymous forum
  • The realisation by me, 15 years older, that the need for feminism as a movement is more necessary than ever
  • Your vapid nature meaning that it could be a concerning warning about future tiktok obsessed women...what hope do we have?
  • The lack of interest in life around you
  • The self absorption being off the scale
  • Lack of interest in bettering yourself in any way, through education, volunteering, campaigning, etc. Etc.

God. I hope none of my kids are influenced by the likes of you. I feel sorry for yours if you have any.

With respect, grow the fuck up.

Drivingmisspotty · 05/04/2025 09:23

ThisChic · 05/04/2025 01:41

Of course. This 10/10 idea didn't really exist back in the 80s/90s I don't think, it seems to be more recent.

I disagree. The specific 10/10 idea might be new but there have always been popular looks/people and men or women have gossiped among themselves about who they find attractive, whether that’s Carey Grant/Paul McCartney/Donny Osmond/Brad Pitt/Leonardo Dicaprio etc.

In my experience this has very little to do with who you actually end up with in a relationship. Just look around you in your own family/workplace/the street. All kinds of people of varying styles/compliance with beauty standards/put togetherness get together and live their lives.

You do you but I think the 10/10 stuff is largely bollocks.

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