Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

friend ‘lodging’ gone sour

494 replies

sausagedogmumm · 26/12/2024 23:10

Need some advice/opinions

Myself and my partner let a friend lodge with us a few months back. At the time she had no where to go and we offered to help, as it’s just the 2 of us with 3 bedrooms. The original deal was a stop gap for her whilst she got herself sorted, we agreed she wouldn’t pay rent but instead pay for household bits and bills. This was a short term fix, she has a cat who we originally said would have to stay elsewhere as we have cats and a puppy of our own and our cats are female and not yet spayed and live inside and hers is a male, outside cat. She also informed us all her belongings would be stored elsewhere, it would just be her and the stuff she needed for a short while, whilst she got back on her feet.

She was unable to find anywhere for her cat to stay so we suggested he stayed downstairs in our dinning room which leads out into the garden and would give him access in and out - it’s a big space and cosy and would mean he was completely separate from our pets, we even suggested she could bring him up stairs at night - our spare room is tiny so this seemed a better option for him.

The week she moved in, we were informed she’d lost her job and the storage had fallen through, so suddenly we had her, alllll her stuff and her cat in our tiny spare room (and her belongings filling our garage and dinning room). She then refused to house the cat downstairs and instead insisted we put up a ‘shelf’ on the outside of our mid terrace house so he could jump in and out. We turned this down, so after a lot of trying to change our minds, she settled for him being let out the front door (carried down).

We realised within a month in, none of our ground rules had really been respected, she was regularly letting her cat mix with ours and then randomly dropped on us, her cat has a gum disease which can be transferred through salvia. She did not contribute to bills and would leave all her dirty washing up in the bowl for us to clean. She then began to leave her cat outside all evening and go out, which caused our neighbours to complain he was trying to get into their houses - to which her response was to tell them to ‘f off.’ She spilled some kind of ink on our carpet which she didn’t inform us of and it’s now ground in and the whole thing needs replacing, put posters on our walls and cracked our paintwork.

As you can imagine, we are very frustrated with the situation and became even more so, when she asked to write up a contract claiming she was paying rent so she could claim more benefits. We refused as she was not actually wanting to pay but transfer it to us and then us send it back and we said we cannot since that is fraud and we are in jobs that require a DBS.

This caused her to become even worse with us and she now regularly moans at us for things like letting her cat in when it’s raining or shutting her bedroom window if we’re going out for the evening and she’s also out till late.

We decided to inform her, we would need our spare room back by the end of jan (6 weeks notice), we stated this was mainly due to our cat ripping out her fur due to the stress of the male cat in the house, meaning until he’s gone, our poor girl is on steroids and stress relief which is costing us hundreds. This combined with the fact she leaves heaters and lights on at all times and has 2 hour baths which has caused our bills to triple, has meant we can no longer have her stay.

She has taken this awfully, threatening suicide and claiming she’ll be on the streets. We have suggested again and again, she contacts the council to try and get housing support but she refused to do so until we told her she had 6 weeks.

Was it fair of us to give her a deadline to move out? We genuinely cannot afford it and my partner grew up in a household with a parent who regularly threatened suicide so as you can guess, he is finding it all very hard

OP posts:
Jumell · 27/12/2024 07:07

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 27/12/2024 05:17

She’s not a scrounger, just homeless?
This is a woman who would see two friends lose their jobs so she can defraud the benefits system?
Not a chance.
She is using you and financially abusing you.
She knows exactly what she is doing, she’s costing you a fortune, she’s ruining your home and doesn’t give one shit.
She is not suicidal. She is threatening you. For anyone who is genuinely suicidal, they usually feel so
ashamed of their feelings, they hide it from everyone. Been there myself.
She knows the benefits system well. If she can claim rent to live in your home, she can claim it to live somewhere else.
If she had any gratitude at all she would pull her weight in your home, but sadly she’s one of those people who just blunders about going from chaos to chaos.
Write to her formally giving an end date so she can go to the council.
Don’t feel bad about it. It’s your home. You have been very kind to let her stay but to be frank she doesn’t give a toss about your feelings. She has you living in fear.

This

BellissimoGecko · 27/12/2024 07:08

My god. You have been unbelievably generous, and she's a piss-taking bellend. I'd have given her a week to move out.

Jifmicroliquid · 27/12/2024 07:12

Get this woman out of your house. She won’t commit suicide, she’s just using that to control you.
She is not your problem.

buttonousmaximous · 27/12/2024 07:26

You did a nice thing and it back fired. Stick to your guns!

Thegreatestoftheseislove · 27/12/2024 07:27

You have been super kind and have gone far more than an extra mile. I am so sad for you that your wonderful goodwill has been abused so badly. To threaten suicide after all you have done is the height of cruel emotional manipulation. It is cruel and quite wicked. I am just so sorry that you have to tolerate another 6 weeks of this behaviour. You gave them an inch and they have taken a round-the-world trip. Very, very poor behaviour on their part.

Whohasnickedthesellotape · 27/12/2024 07:29

If she behaved like this in her last place too you can see why she got kicked out. And why you need to stop being mugs and ask her to leave! She can contact the council now about emergency housing

oakleaffy · 27/12/2024 07:33

BellissimoGecko · 27/12/2024 07:08

My god. You have been unbelievably generous, and she's a piss-taking bellend. I'd have given her a week to move out.

This made me laugh.
Can a woman be a ''🔔 Bellend?''

If any woman can, this one is a monstrous 🔔 bell, a whole Bell tower of 🔔 Bell ends.

Ring the changes, @sausagedogmumm , get the 🔔 Bell out of your house, she's being un bell 🔔 ievable.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 27/12/2024 07:35

What a coincidence that he job fell through when she got free lodgings eh. Have you seen her going for interviews etc?

Cornflakelover · 27/12/2024 07:36

stop being so wet and soft
kick her to the kerb ( not really kick ) but change the locks and tell her to fuck off
maybe watch the film Single White Female for when lodgers go bad 😂

You been much kinder than my son
my son & his partner had a lodger
initially he was a flat mate very nice when they moved to a new house the flat mate moved went with them as they all got on

then within weeks he became incredibly jealous and nasty & very passive aggressive

moaned about the house and said it wasn’t as nice as the flat - it was actually gorgeous huge house completely refurbished to a high standard much much nicer sand better location

he was slamming the doors of 1k fridge that I bought my son as a moving in present

broke the new wardrobe doors deliberately
bashing the air fryer drawers around when it didn’t work

then my son said he was having problems with the main door and might need a new one or new locks

nope lodger was putting his key in the lock to prevent them entering there own house he did this several times .

he refused to shut the windows in his bedroom when he went out but didn’t want anyone going in his room to shut it
they wanted the windows shut as there was a back access / and could be easy to break in

refused to put the alarm on
objected to the ring doorbell
didn’t like it when they did any DIY like painting

would deliberately take hour long baths when he knew my son or his partner arrived home as although they had an en suite they often liked a bath

my son & his partner eventually kicked him out with no notice after a huge argument from him after he complained about family visiting one afternoon it was all passive aggressive stuff mainly and nowhere near as bad as your “lodger “

he had family to go to so he wasn’t homeless
He had cheap rent for our very expensive city and now he’s paying an extra 250 a month in a HMO &he told my son’s partner he hates it and would love to move back with them - totallly mental

honestly just tell her to fuck off
change the lock
put up a ring doorbell
if she turns up threatening you -call the police and you have proof of her threats on the ring doorbell

If you call the police they will just say can you let her back in for one night but say no

if you don’t kick her out now she won’t go in six weeks

Cornflakelover · 27/12/2024 07:48

6 weeks -😂 I would give her 60 fucking seconds notice

shes a lodger she has very little if any rights
you could go home and chuck her out with 5 mins notice and she couldn’t do fuck all about it and that what I suggest you do

and she isn’t going to commit suicide
and if she did that’s not your problem in fact she be gone and out of your way so job done. I take absolutely no shit with people that threaten suicide to manipulate people

honestly she isn’t going to leave in six weeks
or when you want her to
she will only leave when she is ready or when you kick her out and change the locks

she is going stay and have you and your partner tip toeing around in your house trying to appease this crazy ass person

I bet you come home and you feel tense and irritated all the time. - you can’t relax in the one place that should be your safe place from the outside world
I bet you and your partner are arguing with each other silently in your bedroom so the crazy one can’t hear you
I bet you avoid being in the same rooms as her - in your own fucking house

honestly stop be so bloody soft and weyb and just kick her out
don’t ask
don’t reason
don’t explain

just say your leaving today take your shit and fuck off

ButterCrackers · 27/12/2024 07:49

She goes today. She is not your problem. Call the police if she threatens suïcide or harm to you. It will be nasty but put her things outside on the pavement - all her stuff from the garage as well. Change the locks as an emergency.

PokerFriedDips · 27/12/2024 07:52

You are being far too kind to give her 6 weeks notice. A fortnight would be plenty. If she has the notice in writing that will be proof enough for the council to provide emergency accommodation.

marmia1234 · 27/12/2024 07:53

Not in UK but I would be calling someone in authority and explain what's happened. CAHMS ( that's what it's called here for people having a mental breakdown) they are very fast in Australia. The first mention of suicide I would have called the police and explained you have a person threatening to commit suicide and they need to be escorted to the hospital
She must have some family or friend somewhere but if not pack all her stuff nicely in a big bag and put it in your garage.
The cat I would take to a cat shelter and give her name and number. Say she's unwell at the moment but could they hold the cat for a while.
Can't think of much else sorry. Horrid situation.

Serene135 · 27/12/2024 08:00

You’ve definitely made the right decision by asking her to leave. The longer you leave it the harder it will be to get her out. It might be worth you getting advice from citizens advice because I do wonder if you are going to have a bit of a battle on your hands to get her to leave willingly.

Oblomov24 · 27/12/2024 08:00

She's a freeloader and manipulative. Don't let her con you anymore when she starts crying a week before end of Jan, hold firm then!

MogsSprog · 27/12/2024 08:08

Shes a grown up. She needs to get a job and start behaving responsibly. I'm sure she's had her obstacles, but haven't we all, we don't all treat the world as our litter box though.

theallotmentqueen · 27/12/2024 08:09

This is appalling. You very generously allowed her into you home, and she treats you like shit. Mental health isn’t an excuse here- I’ve been through periods of incredible depression but I’ve still tried to help out/be kind to my friends. It sounds like she’s using her poor mental health as a weapon against you, which is manipulative and abusive.

Phone the council saying that she will be made homeless on x date. Her refusal to phone the council herself is another attempt to manipulate you and force you to let her stay. Don’t give into it. You have tried your absolute hardest with her, to be kind to her and treat her well. She is now acting abusively towards you- you don’t deserve this, and you don’t have to put up with it.

When she leaves, change the locks asap.

TheBluntTurtle · 27/12/2024 08:13

Your mental health matters too OP and your friend has really taken you for granted and shown neither you or your home any respect. You have done a good thing in helping her initially and given her time to find a job/ place of her own. I know it feels a bit shitty but you have done a lot for her and she has treated you poorly.

Pussycat22 · 27/12/2024 08:16

She is responsible for her own life.

IlooklikeNigella · 27/12/2024 08:20

Omg you poor things. She's a user and a manipulator. I got angrier and angrier reading that.

I also like to be generous to people OP and help where I can. It's horrible knowing you're being played. And even then (because you're compassionate) I can understand how you're struggling with this bit because you know, no matter how much of a dick she is, that her life is genuinely hard.

But you have to hold firm OP. Because as a pp said your choices are to go through this shit bit now or else don't, let things get way worse (this is inevitable) and then still have to go through this shit bit.

You have tried your best. My friend and her husband put me up when I was having a crappy time. I was there for 3 weeks. I will be eternally grateful and I did my absolute best to be a good guest and repay them anyway I could. I needed to be persuaded to take them up on their offer.

Your 'friend' simply feels entitled. Remove her from your lives.

GreenWheat · 27/12/2024 08:20

Jumell · 27/12/2024 07:05

Gosh OP you’ve been much kinder than I would’ve been

I agree, if it had been me, she wouldn't have made it through my door when she appeared with all her stuff and the cat, as specifically asked not to.

gamerchick · 27/12/2024 08:30

Now you pretty much know why she was homeless in the first place OP.

This is probably going to cost you money to get rid of her. But it'll probably be worth it.

Pay for storage for a set time and transfer all her shit over there. Then put the rest of her stuff out and change the locks when she's out.

Or put her out, give her x time to collect her stuff and the cat or you'll be getting rid and taking the cat to a shelter.

Her threatening suicide is manipulative, it's not your problem and unlikely. She's a grifter, she'll find someone else to leech off.

Sossijiz · 27/12/2024 08:42

Six weeks? I'd give her half an hour to pack her stuff.

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 27/12/2024 08:43

Not that you should need to but I would also be trying to see if you can find anyone to temporarily foster the cat for her so it can move out sooner and she doesn't just leave it or turn down accommodation because of the cat.

Dreamerinme · 27/12/2024 08:50

To echo everyone else - get this woman out by this weekend. She can rent a locker in a storage unit to put her stuff, send the cat to a shelter, and present herself to the council with a letter from you saying she is homeless with immediate effect. Have witnesses if you can when you give her the letter, and email/text her a copy as well. Cover yourself so she can’t say she didn’t know you were evicting her.

Call a locksmith to change the locks now, don’t allow her to be in the house while you are not home, and hide/remove all your expensive/personal/precious possessions in case she decides to trash them in retaliation (been there with this before).

Swipe left for the next trending thread