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friend ‘lodging’ gone sour

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sausagedogmumm · 26/12/2024 23:10

Need some advice/opinions

Myself and my partner let a friend lodge with us a few months back. At the time she had no where to go and we offered to help, as it’s just the 2 of us with 3 bedrooms. The original deal was a stop gap for her whilst she got herself sorted, we agreed she wouldn’t pay rent but instead pay for household bits and bills. This was a short term fix, she has a cat who we originally said would have to stay elsewhere as we have cats and a puppy of our own and our cats are female and not yet spayed and live inside and hers is a male, outside cat. She also informed us all her belongings would be stored elsewhere, it would just be her and the stuff she needed for a short while, whilst she got back on her feet.

She was unable to find anywhere for her cat to stay so we suggested he stayed downstairs in our dinning room which leads out into the garden and would give him access in and out - it’s a big space and cosy and would mean he was completely separate from our pets, we even suggested she could bring him up stairs at night - our spare room is tiny so this seemed a better option for him.

The week she moved in, we were informed she’d lost her job and the storage had fallen through, so suddenly we had her, alllll her stuff and her cat in our tiny spare room (and her belongings filling our garage and dinning room). She then refused to house the cat downstairs and instead insisted we put up a ‘shelf’ on the outside of our mid terrace house so he could jump in and out. We turned this down, so after a lot of trying to change our minds, she settled for him being let out the front door (carried down).

We realised within a month in, none of our ground rules had really been respected, she was regularly letting her cat mix with ours and then randomly dropped on us, her cat has a gum disease which can be transferred through salvia. She did not contribute to bills and would leave all her dirty washing up in the bowl for us to clean. She then began to leave her cat outside all evening and go out, which caused our neighbours to complain he was trying to get into their houses - to which her response was to tell them to ‘f off.’ She spilled some kind of ink on our carpet which she didn’t inform us of and it’s now ground in and the whole thing needs replacing, put posters on our walls and cracked our paintwork.

As you can imagine, we are very frustrated with the situation and became even more so, when she asked to write up a contract claiming she was paying rent so she could claim more benefits. We refused as she was not actually wanting to pay but transfer it to us and then us send it back and we said we cannot since that is fraud and we are in jobs that require a DBS.

This caused her to become even worse with us and she now regularly moans at us for things like letting her cat in when it’s raining or shutting her bedroom window if we’re going out for the evening and she’s also out till late.

We decided to inform her, we would need our spare room back by the end of jan (6 weeks notice), we stated this was mainly due to our cat ripping out her fur due to the stress of the male cat in the house, meaning until he’s gone, our poor girl is on steroids and stress relief which is costing us hundreds. This combined with the fact she leaves heaters and lights on at all times and has 2 hour baths which has caused our bills to triple, has meant we can no longer have her stay.

She has taken this awfully, threatening suicide and claiming she’ll be on the streets. We have suggested again and again, she contacts the council to try and get housing support but she refused to do so until we told her she had 6 weeks.

Was it fair of us to give her a deadline to move out? We genuinely cannot afford it and my partner grew up in a household with a parent who regularly threatened suicide so as you can guess, he is finding it all very hard

OP posts:
WellsAndThistles · 02/02/2025 18:19

6 weeks! I would give her 6 minutes. Give her the council homeless number and shove her out the door. Keep the cat, get his bits sorted out though.

Whalesong · 02/02/2025 18:31

NiceoneSonny · 02/02/2025 17:53

It doesn't matter whether or not she was paying rent. The OP is the involuntary bailee of the goods left behind and has to deal with them according to the legal obligations of being a bailee. OP, here's a useful link.

https://www.lodgerlandlord.co.uk/how-do-you-deal-with-lodgers-possessions-that-they-leave-behind/#:~:text=If%20the%20lodger%20fails%20to,or%20dispose%20of%20the%20items.&text=provided%20you%20have%20failed%20to,sell%20or%20dispose%20of%20them.

CF wasn't a lodger though. She was a "friend" who overstayed her welcome.

Creamcak · 02/02/2025 18:35

Is she still there? How awful when you have been so generous...Did you know her well?

ItsNotYou852 · 02/02/2025 18:35

ThinWomansBrain · 02/02/2025 17:51

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I hope that her cat is OK though

Glad I'm not the only one worried about him!
But well done on getting rid OP, relax and enjoy the peace now.

Americano75 · 02/02/2025 18:41

I'd be burning aaaaaaalll the sage if I were you.

alteredimage · 02/02/2025 18:43

Whalesong · 02/02/2025 18:31

CF wasn't a lodger though. She was a "friend" who overstayed her welcome.

Its not abut her tenancy status. These are her goods. You must give her "reasonable" notice if you want to avoid accusations of stealing.

OP should read the stuff on line, then put something in writing giving two weeks notice, and collection arrangements. Then she can dispose of it However if there is anything of value it needs to be sold and the proceeds given to her. A house clearance guy might be the solution. It all needs to be transparent.

Calling · 02/02/2025 18:44

What a relief! You handled the situation well.

DollieBantrysPantry · 02/02/2025 18:45

Well done OP, hope her stuff is ALL soon gone and that this is finally over for you

Bowies · 02/02/2025 18:46

She’s awful and not a friend. I can’t believe you’ve put up with her this long. She’s lacking any moral compass.

LookItsMeAgain · 02/02/2025 18:47

If I were you, now that she's out, I'd put anything and everything that is hers in the front garden in plastic bags telling her that any remaining bags on X date (date the bins are collected) will be put in the bins and she has until then to get them.

TheTavern · 02/02/2025 18:50

I can’t help but wonder how she squares off her behaviour. Shame on her. Well done to u and your partner. Take photos / video of her stuff just in case she comes back with some nonsense like there is stuff missing.

NiceoneSonny · 02/02/2025 18:50

Whalesong · 02/02/2025 18:31

CF wasn't a lodger though. She was a "friend" who overstayed her welcome.

The way the OP has both addressed this woman as a "lodger", asked her for money towards bills and given her notice, I do not doubt a court would consider her to be a lodger. And it doesn't matter anyway, because if belongings have been left at your property, either willingly or unwillingly, you become a bailee for them and have to ensure that the owner gets a reasonable chance to collect them.

Strictlymad · 02/02/2025 18:56

Oh I’m so glad she’s gone! Do enjoy yourselves tonight and tackle the room tomorrow!

oakleaffy · 02/02/2025 18:59

Americano75 · 02/02/2025 18:41

I'd be burning aaaaaaalll the sage if I were you.

@sausagedogmumm This isn’t such a bad idea-
White Sage is used to clear out negative and bad energies-
It smells lovely as well.

petitdonkey · 02/02/2025 19:02

OP- just amongst all of the comments I want to say you and your DP are kind people who wanted to help out someone who was in a tough situation. It may have gone pear shaped, but you should still be proud of your intention to help a friend in need x

oakleaffy · 02/02/2025 19:02

NiceoneSonny · 02/02/2025 18:50

The way the OP has both addressed this woman as a "lodger", asked her for money towards bills and given her notice, I do not doubt a court would consider her to be a lodger. And it doesn't matter anyway, because if belongings have been left at your property, either willingly or unwillingly, you become a bailee for them and have to ensure that the owner gets a reasonable chance to collect them.

The parasite can bloody well collect her tat -
Never heard such nonsense in my life as having to look after another person’s shit.

She collects in a week or it gets dumped.

Most likely worthless tat otherwise she’d have taken it with her.

Snowmanscarf · 02/02/2025 19:05

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 02/02/2025 18:18

She better not be. I’ve just decorated my spare room!

That’ll be perfect for a new guest then!

PoorUncleBarry · 02/02/2025 19:07

Congratulations on getting your home back op. My uncle moved out in November after 7 months of hell, it has been blissful. Our spare room was destroyed and he left us with an absolute load of broken tat in addition to breaking our belongings, he also slagged us off to my cousin and told outlandish lies. Enjoy your peace. The clean up is a small price to pay for your liberty!

CEllenx · 02/02/2025 19:18

That’s my worst nightmare !

MounjaroOnMyMind · 02/02/2025 19:26

It's shocking how often this sort of thing goes wrong, isn't it? You do someone a massive favour and before you know it they're messing up your house and not speaking to you, as though you're the one causing the problem.

Incenseda · 02/02/2025 19:36

RealHousewivesOfTaunton · 02/02/2025 17:53

Message her saying she has until Friday to remove her stuff, then it's going to the tip.

This. Minimum time.
Then dump.

Serpentstooth · 02/02/2025 19:43

I had one of these briefly. It takes a while to get over the shock that anyone can behave like this. Take any keys she has and give her a few days to find another sucker to let her in. Pack all her things and put them outside if she doesn't leave in the time specified. Out with her. She's not your responsibility.-

LadyLindaT · 02/02/2025 19:44

I am sorry, but I can't help but ask what this selfish loon "friend" did with the poor cat.

Serpentstooth · 02/02/2025 19:44

Oh. Just seen she's gone. Well done OP.

unfestive · 02/02/2025 19:56

I honestly can't get over the brass neck of some people. Imagine being so brazen that you'd act that way towards a friend doing you a favour then refuse to go!! Mind boggling.