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friend ‘lodging’ gone sour

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sausagedogmumm · 26/12/2024 23:10

Need some advice/opinions

Myself and my partner let a friend lodge with us a few months back. At the time she had no where to go and we offered to help, as it’s just the 2 of us with 3 bedrooms. The original deal was a stop gap for her whilst she got herself sorted, we agreed she wouldn’t pay rent but instead pay for household bits and bills. This was a short term fix, she has a cat who we originally said would have to stay elsewhere as we have cats and a puppy of our own and our cats are female and not yet spayed and live inside and hers is a male, outside cat. She also informed us all her belongings would be stored elsewhere, it would just be her and the stuff she needed for a short while, whilst she got back on her feet.

She was unable to find anywhere for her cat to stay so we suggested he stayed downstairs in our dinning room which leads out into the garden and would give him access in and out - it’s a big space and cosy and would mean he was completely separate from our pets, we even suggested she could bring him up stairs at night - our spare room is tiny so this seemed a better option for him.

The week she moved in, we were informed she’d lost her job and the storage had fallen through, so suddenly we had her, alllll her stuff and her cat in our tiny spare room (and her belongings filling our garage and dinning room). She then refused to house the cat downstairs and instead insisted we put up a ‘shelf’ on the outside of our mid terrace house so he could jump in and out. We turned this down, so after a lot of trying to change our minds, she settled for him being let out the front door (carried down).

We realised within a month in, none of our ground rules had really been respected, she was regularly letting her cat mix with ours and then randomly dropped on us, her cat has a gum disease which can be transferred through salvia. She did not contribute to bills and would leave all her dirty washing up in the bowl for us to clean. She then began to leave her cat outside all evening and go out, which caused our neighbours to complain he was trying to get into their houses - to which her response was to tell them to ‘f off.’ She spilled some kind of ink on our carpet which she didn’t inform us of and it’s now ground in and the whole thing needs replacing, put posters on our walls and cracked our paintwork.

As you can imagine, we are very frustrated with the situation and became even more so, when she asked to write up a contract claiming she was paying rent so she could claim more benefits. We refused as she was not actually wanting to pay but transfer it to us and then us send it back and we said we cannot since that is fraud and we are in jobs that require a DBS.

This caused her to become even worse with us and she now regularly moans at us for things like letting her cat in when it’s raining or shutting her bedroom window if we’re going out for the evening and she’s also out till late.

We decided to inform her, we would need our spare room back by the end of jan (6 weeks notice), we stated this was mainly due to our cat ripping out her fur due to the stress of the male cat in the house, meaning until he’s gone, our poor girl is on steroids and stress relief which is costing us hundreds. This combined with the fact she leaves heaters and lights on at all times and has 2 hour baths which has caused our bills to triple, has meant we can no longer have her stay.

She has taken this awfully, threatening suicide and claiming she’ll be on the streets. We have suggested again and again, she contacts the council to try and get housing support but she refused to do so until we told her she had 6 weeks.

Was it fair of us to give her a deadline to move out? We genuinely cannot afford it and my partner grew up in a household with a parent who regularly threatened suicide so as you can guess, he is finding it all very hard

OP posts:
Mamabear300 · 02/02/2025 19:56

sausagedogmumm · 02/02/2025 17:22

and she’s gone! well partly - we still have a garage full of her stuff but that is a message to send this evening but the keys are returned and she is out!

the room is not in a good way but my partner has offered to get the zoflora and anti bac out once he’s fitted our new ring door bell 😂

Congrats on getting your house back OP! I can't imagine how relieved you and your other half must feel. Now all you need to do is give her a deadline to get the rest of her crap out of your garage or it will be put in a skip!

I had a situation years ago where a partner of mine (total twat btw) had a mate who would bring his own tv, xbox and stuff like that with but never any food or whatever. So I had two total jackasses playing computer games on two tvs just chewing up my leccy! The mate always promised when he got paid he'll give me some cash because I fed him ect.. What happened on pay day? After two weeks or more at a time on my bloody couch he decided he was ready for home leaving not a penny towards anything he promised he would. I got rid of the jackass out of my life and his jackass mate but dam, it still really pee's in my biscuit tin when I think of the cheek of him. X

NameChangedOfc · 02/02/2025 20:12

Change the locks ASAP and take care. What a lunatic!

Hdjdb42 · 02/02/2025 20:44

Well done for getting her out! 👏 👏 👏

Luddite26 · 02/02/2025 20:56

Well done getting her out. Hope you can get your house back to yourselves. Had a similar experience with exh cousin in the 80s I threw cat food at him and luckily didn't kill him not a good time.💐

madmumofteens · 02/02/2025 22:04

Yay well done OP 👏

lovinglaughingliving · 02/02/2025 23:54

Oh OP you poor thing!
You know what they say, no good deed goes unpunished!
What a total cow. I would put all her belongings on the side of the road and change the locks! Xx

Frankbeverleyandthebutlers · 03/02/2025 00:05

One last hurdle to go op she has to get rest of her belongings on x day that suits you and your Dh , definitely not on her term's as she's led you both a merry dance and abused your kindness.

Purplebunnie · 03/02/2025 08:58

TheTavern · 02/02/2025 18:50

I can’t help but wonder how she squares off her behaviour. Shame on her. Well done to u and your partner. Take photos / video of her stuff just in case she comes back with some nonsense like there is stuff missing.

Excellent advice. Take note of everything she's left OP

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 03/02/2025 10:31

@sausagedogmumm

as someone else asked - what about the cat ?

sausagedogmumm · 03/02/2025 11:25

In terms of her cat - we have no idea? she took him somewhere on Friday evening but didn’t pass on where or her plan. We are hoping it’s a friend or somewhere where he is safe and happy!! she took his food etc with her which is a good sign

We think she is now sofa surfing with other friends. We did know her friends but they were more aquitances we occasionally saw as we were not really part the group - just would see them from time to time at her gatherings etc. I would warn them but they are unfortunately completely under her thumb and defo think we are monsters! all my other mutual friends with her, i believe she has fallen out with minus some more distant old friends from uni which neither of us have seen in years!

very strange and we are still awaiting her picking up her items from the garage - it seems she’s only taken her small car half full as of now. We have given her a final date for collection - praying she comes as it will be a lot to try and get rid of if not!

I have now blocked her and all her friends on all social media as advised by 101. My partner has kept her unblocked on messenger until the stuff is collected but removed all other channels of social media and contacts! We’ve also got a ring door bell now and sorting a new lock and bolt today!! Luckily we can keep our place double locked from inside and we work from home so even if she did make a copy of the key whilst she was here, she couldn’t get in whilst we wait for the locksmith!

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lobsterkiller · 03/02/2025 11:28

You must feel lighter already! Fingers crossed that she picks her stuff up, although I'm not convinced she will if she's sofa surfing. This is who she is, chaotic and toxic.

HT2222 · 03/02/2025 11:44

they are unfortunately completely under her thumb and defo think we are monsters

Good - they can house the poor wee mite then! And keep her away from you "monsters" who gave her free housing for months

YourGladSquid · 03/02/2025 12:45

They’re going to find out soon enough what she’s like.

MadnessIsMyMiddleName · 03/02/2025 13:06

OP, did you ask the police for advice with regard to how long you might have to take responsibility for the stuff she's left in your garage, ie, do you have to give her written notice of how long you're prepared to wait, and then after that can you take it all to the tip? Otherwise I can see her using you for free storage for evermore. Also, does she have a key to the garage, and if so, is there any of your stuff in there that she may take or destroy?

sausagedogmumm · 03/02/2025 14:33

reasonable time frame which is 2 weeks luckily! no our garage is on a code which she doesn’t know :)

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BruFord · 03/02/2025 14:37

@sausagedogmumm After she's leeched off them for a couple of weeks, her other friends will soon find out that you're not the monsters, she is!

So glad she's out of your home.

Semiramide · 03/02/2025 14:48

sausagedogmumm · 03/02/2025 14:33

reasonable time frame which is 2 weeks luckily! no our garage is on a code which she doesn’t know :)

I'm not sure whether 2 weeks is in line with the law. In your shoes I'd check with Shelter, LandlordZone and/or the police.

You may also want to send her a formal notice about the need to collect her belongings by a certain date, to protect yourself.

Even though it appears that you did not have a formal lodging agreement, one may have been created by default. The law often sides with renters, so better safe than sorry.

OpenFox · 03/02/2025 15:06

Semiramide · 03/02/2025 14:48

I'm not sure whether 2 weeks is in line with the law. In your shoes I'd check with Shelter, LandlordZone and/or the police.

You may also want to send her a formal notice about the need to collect her belongings by a certain date, to protect yourself.

Even though it appears that you did not have a formal lodging agreement, one may have been created by default. The law often sides with renters, so better safe than sorry.

The law sides with tenants, not lodgers.

She has very few rights and 2 weeks is more than reasonable.

If she doesn't collect then they'd have to take sensible steps to dispose of the stuff e.g. anything of value sold, then the money retained for this person, but deductions of any costs to get rid of stuff.

JustMyView13 · 03/02/2025 15:48

2 Weeks is considered reasonable. Friend had similar situation BUT was advised by their lawyer to extend on request, which they did. They gave them an additional 2 and made it clear they would be considered dumped and disposed of if they remained after this date. Tenant did collect despite a variety of excuses. Just make sure you can evidence communicating the deadlines with her.

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