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Partner’s crazy ex wife.

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UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:17

I met my fiancé in 2019. He has one child with his ex wife. He told me from the beginning that his ex wife was unhinged, but I put it down to him using the phrase flippantly, and assumed he had probably done some wrongdoings in their marriage. His friends and family also used to mention how insane she is. I genuinely didn’t take much notice, as how many times as women have we been told about the ‘crazy ex’?

For the first year of dating, everything was fine. However, any time something big happens in our relationship (or any time to be honest) his ex does something nuts.

It first started in March 2020, when my partner and I decided to move in together as we didn’t want to spend lockdown alone. My fiancés ex sent him a huge rambling email, probably over 2000 words long, accusing him of being unsafe, killing vulnerable people, that we were terrible for breaking lockdown rules. We didn’t do anything to break the rules, other than combine our households. My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions. Throughout lockdown, we had visits from the police who had been told we were having parties and flouting lockdown rules. We can’t be sure it was his ex wife, but we are pretty certain due to her earlier email, the fact it was all lies and nobody else would have any motivation.

In 2022 my fiance proposed to me, and the day after the proposal, she turned up at our door with my stepson and said that he was living with us from now on. No explanation, just turned up on the doorstep with his bags. This caused huge issues as we had to change our entire lives around to do the school run some half an hour away, take him to all his clubs, his friends houses. We both work full time and didn’t plan for this. Before this, my stepson had been over every weekend, so it was a massive lifestyle change. Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

In 2023, I got a promotion at work. I’m not sure how she found out (maybe LinkedIn, is all I can think?) but a couple of weeks later we had a fraudulent claim made against us via the CMS. She claimed that we never had stepson overnight and we became liable for massive payments which took months and a court order to eventually sort out. In the meantime, we were down thousands and have no way to get the money back, even though it was clear fraud.

Yesterday I announced my pregnancy, and today she has sent my fiancé a long email saying she is going to be reporting us to stepsons school and social services as she doesn’t think we are fit parents, this is despite her up until this point being happy for us to have stepson 50% of the time. We are good people, stepson loves his time here, this is just another attempt to disrupt our lives.

These are all the big things, intermingled in all of this is lots of crazy phone calls, texts, emails. I’m at my wits end. It’s causing huge arguments between me and my fiancé and I’ve reached the point of just wanting to leave and go it alone. I can’t cope with the near constant disruption and living on edge not knowing what she’s going to do next. I feel idiotic as I was warned from the beginning that she was crazy, but it wasn’t until we made major life decisions that she really became a massive disruptor in our lives.

OP posts:
Reugny · 05/10/2024 21:53

Choochoo21 · 05/10/2024 21:51

He was seeing both parents.

He can live with his dad and still see his mum, just like he saw his dad when he lived with his mum.

He may not want to.

Rosscameasdoody · 05/10/2024 21:57

Choochoo21 · 05/10/2024 21:47

Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

If he’s such a good dad then why couldn’t he be the residential parent long term?

Why was it ok for him to only see his son EOW but then when he was the RP he tried to persuade the ex to have him 50/50.

Why couldn’t the ex just see her son EOW like your DP had been doing for years?

It wasn’t EOW it was every weekend.

rainbowunicorn · 05/10/2024 21:57

Golden407 · 05/10/2024 21:02

She explained the situation with the stepson. Honestly the mental gymnastics performed on this forum to blame man for everything are tiresome

Yep, for some posters it really doesn't matter what a woman has done. Even when that woman has done the most awful things these posters will always manage to blame the man.

Rosscameasdoody · 05/10/2024 21:58

ChampaignSupernova · 05/10/2024 21:43

Why on earth did you send step son back if his mother is so unhinged? It must be really hard for a 12 year old having his stuff packed and dropped off at his dad's only for his dad and you to send him back as he is too inconvenient and now your having a baby. I understand you may not have been able to sort the clubs or it may have meant moving schools but if she's as bad as you say she is then surely that would have been the better option?

At 12 years old the child has a say.

SophiaJ8 · 05/10/2024 21:59

rainbowunicorn · 05/10/2024 21:57

Yep, for some posters it really doesn't matter what a woman has done. Even when that woman has done the most awful things these posters will always manage to blame the man.

wHat dID hE dO To mAkE hEr cRazY

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:59

I’m leaving this thread now. I was hoping to get practical advice from others who had been in this situation, instead it has almost exclusively become focussed on berating us for something that happened 4 years ago.

OP posts:
Trillie · 05/10/2024 21:59

He sounds manipulative to me, he could have seen his child during lockdown but came up with excuses, and he sounds very keen to tell you how crazy his ex is. How many of these messages do you actually see? Few red flags there, to me.

Reugny · 05/10/2024 21:59

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:32

Even if my DP was a shit dad, it still doesn’t justify her unhinged behaviour.

I’m assuming she knows what we’re doing as she stalks our social media and sends ranting emails shortly after anything significant happens in our lives. Or it could be completely coincidental (very doubtful).

Limit what you put on social media I did because of my DPs ex.

However thanks to all the faking going on I'm glad I did. Plus my DD has absolutely no social media presence what so ever from when she was born. This means DPs ex doesn't know what she looks like.

The couple of leaks that have happened have been quickly closed down.

My family understand why I don't want my child on social media in general without doing into specifics but her school continues to have problems with it.

susey · 05/10/2024 22:00

FuzzyGoblin · 05/10/2024 21:19

I’m guessing that when you break up and you become his second insane ex that you might have a greater understanding.

This nails it.

Rosscameasdoody · 05/10/2024 22:01

Trillie · 05/10/2024 21:59

He sounds manipulative to me, he could have seen his child during lockdown but came up with excuses, and he sounds very keen to tell you how crazy his ex is. How many of these messages do you actually see? Few red flags there, to me.

Read the bloody thread. It was the ex who stopped him from seeing the child during lockdown.

CitizenZ · 05/10/2024 22:01

OP, Ignore the wazzocks on here that have no idea what it is like to have an unhinged ex. We had one. She was an absolute nightmare, and there are a lot of similarities to what you are going through now. I could write a book on what happened and how she tried to break us. We powered through, had a very shitty time, but that was many years ago. If you stay strong together, you might get to watch her shrivel with embarrassment when the child grows up and they have to face you at their Wedding, or the Christening of the children they have. You feel 10ft tall when they have no power, it's worth the wait.

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 05/10/2024 22:01

FuzzyGoblin · 05/10/2024 21:19

I’m guessing that when you break up and you become his second insane ex that you might have a greater understanding.

This is ridiculous! What OP is describing is batshit crazy level. No sane woman reacts to her ex getting with someone else by harassing him and his new partner!

Monkeysatonthewall · 05/10/2024 22:01

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:59

I’m leaving this thread now. I was hoping to get practical advice from others who had been in this situation, instead it has almost exclusively become focussed on berating us for something that happened 4 years ago.

So sorry OP.
I hope you find the answers you're looking for elsewhere ❤️

CraftyPlumViewer · 05/10/2024 22:02

Good shout, OP. Sorry you've been met with a tidal wave of loons.

Apolitia · 05/10/2024 22:06

Hey op, sounds tough.

How does this all make you feel?

Like, how does it fit with what you thought you wanted growing up and how you see your life going forward. What kind of life do you want for yourself?

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 05/10/2024 22:08

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:59

I’m leaving this thread now. I was hoping to get practical advice from others who had been in this situation, instead it has almost exclusively become focussed on berating us for something that happened 4 years ago.

@UpsetGirlx if he's worth the aggro from the ex then wait it out. It's stressful, and can feel like it will break you but you can get through it. My DH and I went through this 30 years ago from his ex, it almost broke us. But we refused to let it.

He was worth it. His ex is still absolutely nuts. To the level that on DSD's recent hen weekend her mum punched her in the face. Result? She was no longer invited to the wedding and the day went smoothly. We haven't seen ex in years. Only hear about her shenanigans from DSD, he has recently decided to go completely NC with her.

DSS is 12 OP, soon your OH won't need to communicate with ex about contact and all arrangements will be made directly with DSS. Keep your chin up and try to ignore her and her crazy antics, it's hard but you'll get through it. There is light at the end of the tunnel.

Rosscameasdoody · 05/10/2024 22:09

Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 21:46

Nope you can't backtrack now. He was a brilliant dad up until you actually told us the reality so what else isn't being shared.

Because the biggest thing that screams from this is he left his son with his so called crazy ex wife during a global pandemic. I couldn't even look at a person who behaved that way.

Good luck I have a funny feeling you will be the future crazy ex.

Ex wife was the one who stopped her son seeing his dad - she had contact with an elderly relative during covid and didn’t want him exposed.

Rosscameasdoody · 05/10/2024 22:13

susey · 05/10/2024 22:00

This nails it.

No, it doesn’t. It’s just more mental gymnastics to try to blame OP’s DH for the actions of his ex.

ARichtGoodDram · 05/10/2024 22:14

In some circumstances CMS will expect a partner to pay more towards housing so that the parent can provide more maintenance. They look at the income of both partner and parent. I’ve seen it happen twice, and both times it was when the ex had got wind of the partner getting promotion/pay rise. CMS say that they don’t take a partners’ income into account but indirectly this is the same thing.

That hasn't been the system for many years now.

NRP's don't get to make deductions for housing under the current system so their partners income is irrelevant. It's a straight percentage of income

SophiaJ8 · 05/10/2024 22:15

In some circumstances CMS will expect a partner to pay more towards housing so that the parent can provide more maintenance. They look at the income of both partner and parent. I’ve seen it happen twice, and both times it was when the ex had got wind of the partner getting promotion/pay rise. CMS say that they don’t take a partners’ income into account but indirectly this is the same thing.

this is thankfully, utter nonsense

Golden407 · 05/10/2024 22:15

bitsalty · 05/10/2024 21:05

@Golden407 someone starts a thread like this and surely it's natural to ask questions and not just follow without any doubt everything the OP says.

No mental gymnastics just going on what I've read and maybe reading between the lines a bit because the 'crazy ex' line is questioned for a very good reason.

Perhaps, If the sexes were reversed, if a woman came on here talking about how her ex was causing similar problems with her new partner, would you question her version of events and suggest she's at fault? I really don't think you would.

Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 22:17

Rosscameasdoody · 05/10/2024 22:09

Ex wife was the one who stopped her son seeing his dad - she had contact with an elderly relative during covid and didn’t want him exposed.

Seriously? would you not see your child if the father said that to you. Because I know no mother not father who would.

I saw families in these circumstances but none not one went with that option.My children wouldn't have ever forgiven their father. Thankfully he didn't act like this dick.

No the ex shouldn't behave as told to us. But how reliable is the narrator? We had the father was amazing until he wasn't. Exactly how much of this is his telling.

Because I will be honest I wouldn't trust a parent with so low emotional intelligence as one to not fight tooth and nail to see their child.

Patienceinshortsupply · 05/10/2024 22:17

OP, you knew all of this was in the background yet you're going ahead with a pregnancy that will tie you to this man AND his son/ex for the rest of your life.

If you can't handle that, then for heaven's sake, don't have this baby. They were in his life before you, you can't erase that. There is a child trying to grow up amongst this shit Sad

Psychologymam · 05/10/2024 22:18

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:15

He said she’s always been unhinged, but she was manageable and a good mum (his words). Since we started doing big things in our relationship she’s ramped it up to another level.

this is the most stereotypical statement in these scenarios - the ex is completely unhinged/crazy/insane…. But still a great mother so she’s grand to take care of my kids full time so I don’t need to - phew! I personally don’t know how those things equate, but just use a parenting app to communicate, document your concerns if you need to go to police etc and avoid all unnecessary contact. You can’t change her behaviour just manage your own.

Noseybookworm · 05/10/2024 22:20

She's clearly a very difficult person to deal with and you have my sympathy OP. Unfortunately she is the person your partner chose to have a child with which means that he is likely going to have to deal with all her crazy shit until their son is an adult and probably to some extent after that 😕 I feel most sorry for the little boy at the centre of all this - I can't imagine the effect all this turmoil will have on him.