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Partner’s crazy ex wife.

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UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:17

I met my fiancé in 2019. He has one child with his ex wife. He told me from the beginning that his ex wife was unhinged, but I put it down to him using the phrase flippantly, and assumed he had probably done some wrongdoings in their marriage. His friends and family also used to mention how insane she is. I genuinely didn’t take much notice, as how many times as women have we been told about the ‘crazy ex’?

For the first year of dating, everything was fine. However, any time something big happens in our relationship (or any time to be honest) his ex does something nuts.

It first started in March 2020, when my partner and I decided to move in together as we didn’t want to spend lockdown alone. My fiancés ex sent him a huge rambling email, probably over 2000 words long, accusing him of being unsafe, killing vulnerable people, that we were terrible for breaking lockdown rules. We didn’t do anything to break the rules, other than combine our households. My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions. Throughout lockdown, we had visits from the police who had been told we were having parties and flouting lockdown rules. We can’t be sure it was his ex wife, but we are pretty certain due to her earlier email, the fact it was all lies and nobody else would have any motivation.

In 2022 my fiance proposed to me, and the day after the proposal, she turned up at our door with my stepson and said that he was living with us from now on. No explanation, just turned up on the doorstep with his bags. This caused huge issues as we had to change our entire lives around to do the school run some half an hour away, take him to all his clubs, his friends houses. We both work full time and didn’t plan for this. Before this, my stepson had been over every weekend, so it was a massive lifestyle change. Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

In 2023, I got a promotion at work. I’m not sure how she found out (maybe LinkedIn, is all I can think?) but a couple of weeks later we had a fraudulent claim made against us via the CMS. She claimed that we never had stepson overnight and we became liable for massive payments which took months and a court order to eventually sort out. In the meantime, we were down thousands and have no way to get the money back, even though it was clear fraud.

Yesterday I announced my pregnancy, and today she has sent my fiancé a long email saying she is going to be reporting us to stepsons school and social services as she doesn’t think we are fit parents, this is despite her up until this point being happy for us to have stepson 50% of the time. We are good people, stepson loves his time here, this is just another attempt to disrupt our lives.

These are all the big things, intermingled in all of this is lots of crazy phone calls, texts, emails. I’m at my wits end. It’s causing huge arguments between me and my fiancé and I’ve reached the point of just wanting to leave and go it alone. I can’t cope with the near constant disruption and living on edge not knowing what she’s going to do next. I feel idiotic as I was warned from the beginning that she was crazy, but it wasn’t until we made major life decisions that she really became a massive disruptor in our lives.

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Hankunamatata · 05/10/2024 21:21

By any chance did he stop paying the mortgage and bills that had been agreed when she brought step son to live with you both full time?

Beezknees · 05/10/2024 21:21

Of course he could have seen his child during lockdown, there were no rules against that. Lame excuse and piss poor parenting from him.

DinosaurMunch · 05/10/2024 21:22

How does CMS work then? I thought it was taken from PAYE earnings or based on tax returns. Surely you can't just claim any amount you want from CMS?

Beezknees · 05/10/2024 21:23

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:17

Why the huge focus over lockdown? His mum also insisted stepson didn’t travel due to her elderly relative. They did weekly zooms, he sent gifts every week and saw him as soon as the draconian rules were lifted.

I’m not sure why everyone is focussing on this one potential slight of my partner, and not the multitude of nutty things his ex has done.

You see it time and time again with these men that have "crazy" exes, they can't be that bothered otherwise they'd try to get full custody of their children. If my ex was unhinged I wouldn't want my child living with them.

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:24

No he continued to pay the mortgage and bills whilst stepson lived with us. He then reduced to a weekly amount which she agreed to but when she presumably found out about my promotion she lied to the CMS in order to get the maximum amount of money she could.

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Attelina · 05/10/2024 21:25

FuzzyGoblin · 05/10/2024 21:19

I’m guessing that when you break up and you become his second insane ex that you might have a greater understanding.

This 100%

Teanbiscuits33 · 05/10/2024 21:26

Regardless of what else has gone on, I’d have ran for the hills the second he referred to a ‘crazy ex’ during early dating 🤣 so many men use this tired old line my alarm bells would have been well and truly ringing.

However, in the here and now, she’s too much drama, I’d get law involved so that your fiancé doesn’t have to maintain contact with her beyond discussing DC.

Gemstonebeach · 05/10/2024 21:26

I just feel sorry for your poor stepson being in the middle of this. Imagine your mum just dumping you on your dad’s doorstep and your life changing completely. Such unnecessary trauma being caused just because the parents can’t get on.

FreeWeekend · 05/10/2024 21:28

FuzzyGoblin · 05/10/2024 21:19

I’m guessing that when you break up and you become his second insane ex that you might have a greater understanding.

I think that is a strong possibility. He has shown he wasn't a good dad by not finding out about lockdown rules and therefore not seeing his child for that time. Let's see how he is with your child, many men show their true colours once the child takes attention from them. Their partners suddenly become 'insane'.

Gladicalled · 05/10/2024 21:29

Op I mean this gently. But this is more trouble than it’s worth.

You are wrong about lockdown. And you know that’s wrong. You claim you didn’t know kids could go between houses. Then that she wouldn’t let him anyway.

You moved in because you didn’t want to be alone and learned about about the rules to know you didn’t break them by moving in together. But no one looked at what the rules around kids were?

I am divorced from my kids Dad, that was the first thing I wanted to know. What would happen about kids loving between homes. The day lockdown was announced ds was with his Dad. I was petrified I wouldn’t be able to see him. Any parent in that situation would have found out the rules. You think this hit isn’t a big deal. But it is. Because it shows his attitude. ‘I didn’t know that’ just isn’t good enough from a parent. Think about your baby. Would you be fine being separated from your child not knowing how long it would be? Would you not look into it?

I can imagine she is a pain in the arse. But also I think your dp isn’t really the amazingly wonderful man you think he is.

How would she even know he proposed by the next day? You assume she knew about your promotion, but don’t know. You and him and filling in some blanks.

and honestly, if you get with someone with children you have to be prepared that you could end up with them full time. It’s always a possibility. And then you will have to work round them.

Also many many women think their dps are excellent fathers right up until they have a child. Then it becomes clearer that they actually just got loads of praise for being an ok Dad. Look at the many threads on the step parenting board. About how once a woman has her own child she can see the problems.

I am not blaming you for any of this but I think you are being naive.

Gladicalled · 05/10/2024 21:31

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:24

No he continued to pay the mortgage and bills whilst stepson lived with us. He then reduced to a weekly amount which she agreed to but when she presumably found out about my promotion she lied to the CMS in order to get the maximum amount of money she could.

CMS don’t take YOUR wage into account.

So this massive wage going bill you had was based on his wage only.

But surely, since he could prove what he earned and prove he did have overnights that was quickly resolved.

She shouldn’t have lied. But again, I am not sure you have the full story here.

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:32

Even if my DP was a shit dad, it still doesn’t justify her unhinged behaviour.

I’m assuming she knows what we’re doing as she stalks our social media and sends ranting emails shortly after anything significant happens in our lives. Or it could be completely coincidental (very doubtful).

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UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:33

Gladicalled · 05/10/2024 21:31

CMS don’t take YOUR wage into account.

So this massive wage going bill you had was based on his wage only.

But surely, since he could prove what he earned and prove he did have overnights that was quickly resolved.

She shouldn’t have lied. But again, I am not sure you have the full story here.

No. It was not quickly resolved. We had to go to court which took over a year as they wouldn’t believe us, even though we had loads of evidence.

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Rosscameasdoody · 05/10/2024 21:33

BloodyAdultDC · 05/10/2024 20:55

I haven't read the full thread but this stands out from your op -

My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions.

Old Boris said in his televised speech that children from separated families COULD travel between households throughout lockdown.

For that you are both being VERY unreasonable.

I'll now go back and read the rest of your post with that pre-judgement already in place...

And presumably without reading the update saying it was the ex who wouldn’t allow the child to visit during Covid.

JudgeJenny · 05/10/2024 21:33

He knew she was bonkers but accepted her word about not being able to see his son during lockdown? He could have done his own two minute research. Something doesn’t add up about that.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 05/10/2024 21:33

I had similar batshit behaviour from exh ex wife. It’s so wearing, you have my sympathy.

Your step son is almost old enough ( I think 13) to tell a court where he wants to live. If he chose to live with you and his dad could you move further away? Your alternative is to stick it out until the lad leaves school……

Teanbiscuits33 · 05/10/2024 21:34

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:32

Even if my DP was a shit dad, it still doesn’t justify her unhinged behaviour.

I’m assuming she knows what we’re doing as she stalks our social media and sends ranting emails shortly after anything significant happens in our lives. Or it could be completely coincidental (very doubtful).

So block her on social media? Why does she need to see your social media accounts? All she needs is your DPs mobile number to contact about his son, that’s literally it. Report her for her harassment and have done with it.

Choochoo21 · 05/10/2024 21:34

I’m not sure why everyone is focussing on this one potential slight of my partner, and not the multitude of nutty things his ex has done.

Because you say she’s unhinged and that’s he’s a good dad but then also admit he didn’t see his kid during lockdown ‘because he didn’t know he was allowed’.

Which is a lie.
He absolutely knew he was allowed.
I don’t share custody of a child and even I knew that parents were allowed to see their own kids.

So you’ve lied and he didn’t see his child for months.
This paints you and him in a very bad light.

She does sound very difficult and some exes absolutely are unhinged.

Some of the things she’s done are completely unacceptable.

But I don’t think your DP is as perfect as you make him out to be.

FreeWeekend · 05/10/2024 21:36

There's lots here that doesn't add up OP. Either you're lying about some things or your partner is lying to you.

I feel sorry for the child and future child involved in this shitshow.

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:37

Maybe it doesn’t seem to add up because it’s literally crazy. I would struggle to believe it if a friend told me about all this.

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since1986 · 05/10/2024 21:38

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:33

No. It was not quickly resolved. We had to go to court which took over a year as they wouldn’t believe us, even though we had loads of evidence.

They would ask the school and your stepson. Why did it take over a year and he could've simply counterclaimed against her and said the same?

Monkeysatonthewall · 05/10/2024 21:38

Golden407 · 05/10/2024 21:02

She explained the situation with the stepson. Honestly the mental gymnastics performed on this forum to blame man for everything are tiresome

This.

The thread is about an ex and multiple people are trying to turn it into bashing OP's partner.

OP, it's sad it's caused a lot of arguments but I can also see why. Just remember it's you two against the problem, not you two against each other.

bitsalty · 05/10/2024 21:38

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:17

Why the huge focus over lockdown? His mum also insisted stepson didn’t travel due to her elderly relative. They did weekly zooms, he sent gifts every week and saw him as soon as the draconian rules were lifted.

I’m not sure why everyone is focussing on this one potential slight of my partner, and not the multitude of nutty things his ex has done.

Because none of it adds up. It's not your fault, it's his but I'd be working out what the real truth is given you're now having a child with him.

Waiting9 · 05/10/2024 21:39

Seek legal advice

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:39

since1986 · 05/10/2024 21:38

They would ask the school and your stepson. Why did it take over a year and he could've simply counterclaimed against her and said the same?

The CMS do not contact schools or the child.

They believed her as she was the ‘resident parent’, even though we had evidence to prove we did have him for overnights when she said we didn’t. We submitted loads of evidence, including from the school saying we did have stepson half the time, and the CMS still refused to believe us. They said the only proof they would accept was a court order which took us over a year to obtain.

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