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Partner’s crazy ex wife.

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UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:17

I met my fiancé in 2019. He has one child with his ex wife. He told me from the beginning that his ex wife was unhinged, but I put it down to him using the phrase flippantly, and assumed he had probably done some wrongdoings in their marriage. His friends and family also used to mention how insane she is. I genuinely didn’t take much notice, as how many times as women have we been told about the ‘crazy ex’?

For the first year of dating, everything was fine. However, any time something big happens in our relationship (or any time to be honest) his ex does something nuts.

It first started in March 2020, when my partner and I decided to move in together as we didn’t want to spend lockdown alone. My fiancés ex sent him a huge rambling email, probably over 2000 words long, accusing him of being unsafe, killing vulnerable people, that we were terrible for breaking lockdown rules. We didn’t do anything to break the rules, other than combine our households. My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions. Throughout lockdown, we had visits from the police who had been told we were having parties and flouting lockdown rules. We can’t be sure it was his ex wife, but we are pretty certain due to her earlier email, the fact it was all lies and nobody else would have any motivation.

In 2022 my fiance proposed to me, and the day after the proposal, she turned up at our door with my stepson and said that he was living with us from now on. No explanation, just turned up on the doorstep with his bags. This caused huge issues as we had to change our entire lives around to do the school run some half an hour away, take him to all his clubs, his friends houses. We both work full time and didn’t plan for this. Before this, my stepson had been over every weekend, so it was a massive lifestyle change. Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

In 2023, I got a promotion at work. I’m not sure how she found out (maybe LinkedIn, is all I can think?) but a couple of weeks later we had a fraudulent claim made against us via the CMS. She claimed that we never had stepson overnight and we became liable for massive payments which took months and a court order to eventually sort out. In the meantime, we were down thousands and have no way to get the money back, even though it was clear fraud.

Yesterday I announced my pregnancy, and today she has sent my fiancé a long email saying she is going to be reporting us to stepsons school and social services as she doesn’t think we are fit parents, this is despite her up until this point being happy for us to have stepson 50% of the time. We are good people, stepson loves his time here, this is just another attempt to disrupt our lives.

These are all the big things, intermingled in all of this is lots of crazy phone calls, texts, emails. I’m at my wits end. It’s causing huge arguments between me and my fiancé and I’ve reached the point of just wanting to leave and go it alone. I can’t cope with the near constant disruption and living on edge not knowing what she’s going to do next. I feel idiotic as I was warned from the beginning that she was crazy, but it wasn’t until we made major life decisions that she really became a massive disruptor in our lives.

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Suzuki70 · 05/10/2024 21:01

You can report someone to the police for fake social services calls. I know she may try and withhold stepson and other dramatic responses but I'm not sure you have another option now you are pregnant.

OhcantthInkofaname · 05/10/2024 21:01

All of the claims she is making are harassment. You have the right to file a claim against her.

Golden407 · 05/10/2024 21:02

bitsalty · 05/10/2024 20:45

He's lying about not being able to see his child during lockdowns or he couldn't be bothered to find out the actual rules. So that concerns me.

He also couldn't really manage to be a full time dad when that happened.

He's not really sounding like a prince is he?!

She sounds really difficult and that's hard to manage but I'm not convinced he isn't a deadbeat dad.

I'd be steering well clear before I end up crazy ex no2.

She explained the situation with the stepson. Honestly the mental gymnastics performed on this forum to blame man for everything are tiresome

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:02

bitsalty · 05/10/2024 21:00

But why wasn't he parenting equally and not just a weekend dad? Then cut down to gifts and zoom dad?

We didn’t realise that was allowed, she also said it wasn’t, and she didn’t want stepson seeing anyone anyway as she was in contact with an elderly relative.

The every weekend was a longstanding arrangement that she was in agreement with so he could work full time, she could work part time and he would continue to pay for the mortgage and bills through his wages whilst stepson lived their full time.

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SophiaJ8 · 05/10/2024 21:02

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:58

He would love to block her on everything and just communicate via stepson but unfortunately she does things like call the police, make fraudulent claims to CMS, call social services… things they directly affect us and we can’t escape.

But these things will eventually peter out and she’ll have nowhere else to go. The key is to not react.

I get it - DH’s ex used to deliberately say/text/get the kids to say the most incendiary things, but it was all about getting a reaction. As Supernanny used to say; even an argument is attention. I think in DH’s ex case there is some kind of personality disorder, but I refused to let it invade my life any longer - it’s her issue not mine.

Grey rock her all the way, and don’t even let her see she is getting to you. Ignore all her imaginary perceived issues

Head up, good luck!

SometimesCalmPerson · 05/10/2024 21:04

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:33

@Soontobe60 I thought you couldn’t do that during the first lockdown. His ex didn’t want stepson to go to his house regardless as she was on rotation visiting her elderly relative at time. She didn’t want stepson exposed to anyone (including my fiancé) and said it was against the rules?

A good Dad would have looked up the rules himself. He should have tried harder.

The thing about there being a crazy ex, is that if they genuinely are struggling with the break up and single parenting to the point that it’s affecting their mental health and therefore their actions, then that’s all the more reason why the NRP needs to make more effort. They are supposed to step up for the sake of their child and fight for 50/50 because they want more influence on their child, not because they don’t want to parent full time. A crazy ex is never going to handle their co parent moving on very well, but even when it’s in their existing child’s best interests, men can’t resist finding another woman to have more babies with. That does not make a good parent.

adviceneeded1990 · 05/10/2024 21:05

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:33

@Soontobe60 I thought you couldn’t do that during the first lockdown. His ex didn’t want stepson to go to his house regardless as she was on rotation visiting her elderly relative at time. She didn’t want stepson exposed to anyone (including my fiancé) and said it was against the rules?

You 100% could, we did and so did many other families. I still remember the sheer relief of my DH when Michael Gove tweeted that normal arrangements for blended families could continue as we were living in fear of not seeing DSD. Continued 50/50 through the entire Covid saga. Your DH doesn’t sound particularly invested and was happy with weekends only until fairly recently? She sounds unhinged though and I’d get him to look up the grey rock and parallel parenting methods.

bitsalty · 05/10/2024 21:05

@Golden407 someone starts a thread like this and surely it's natural to ask questions and not just follow without any doubt everything the OP says.

No mental gymnastics just going on what I've read and maybe reading between the lines a bit because the 'crazy ex' line is questioned for a very good reason.

ThatDaringMintCritic · 05/10/2024 21:06

If you've not been in this situation, it is so hard to understand. It's like being hit by train. You and your fiance need to sit down and work out how best to manage his ex. I'd suggest posting on the step parenting chat as you will get some good, practical advice there.

Korn4 · 05/10/2024 21:07

Yeah...I'm with others here re the lack of visitation during others. A good dad would've made his own enquiries regarding the covid 19 restrictions, instead of taking the word of his batshit ex. Part time zoom dad isn't an excuse.

Korn4 · 05/10/2024 21:08

During Covid* even

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:09

ThatDaringMintCritic · 05/10/2024 21:06

If you've not been in this situation, it is so hard to understand. It's like being hit by train. You and your fiance need to sit down and work out how best to manage his ex. I'd suggest posting on the step parenting chat as you will get some good, practical advice there.

Thank you. We could ignore the emails and texts, her saying nasty things to stepson that we then need to sort out.

But the malicious practical things are impossible to avoid.

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Zanatdy · 05/10/2024 21:10

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:02

We didn’t realise that was allowed, she also said it wasn’t, and she didn’t want stepson seeing anyone anyway as she was in contact with an elderly relative.

The every weekend was a longstanding arrangement that she was in agreement with so he could work full time, she could work part time and he would continue to pay for the mortgage and bills through his wages whilst stepson lived their full time.

How long didn’t he see him for? I assume none of you watched the news, watched the daily Covid updates or chatted to colleagues as contact with your own children was never banned. It sounds like she calls the shots and he just puts up with it. He needs to quit communicating with her, the son is old enough now, or use a parenting app. She is only going to get worse as your pregnancy continues and once you give birth, well, she’s going to ramp it up. Hence you both need to put a stop to her contacting her ex. A 12yr old is fine to send the arrangements too, she doesn’t need to get involved.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 05/10/2024 21:10

Children absolutely could move between their two homes (ie between two parents) during every part of all lockdowns. That was one of the few things made absolutely clear throughout.

She does sound absolutely unhinged - like she’s never got over the relationship ending perhaps, but also like genuine mental health problems.

Sounds as thought your stepson would be better off living with you guys for at least a majority of the time to be honest.

FreeWeekend · 05/10/2024 21:11

We didn’t realise that was allowed, she also said it wasn’t, and she didn’t want stepson seeing anyone anyway as she was in contact with an elderly relative.

I don't believe that a decent father wouldn't have made it his business to check that he could see his child in lockdown, and would just blindly believe a woman who is apparently 'insane'.

I live with my children's father so the rule didn't matter to me, but I was still aware that children could go between parents houses.

Canonlythinkofthisone · 05/10/2024 21:14

How did you and he get together? How long had she been the crazy ex for.?
She sounds ridiculous. But normally there's a reason for the "crazy".
And just another one to say, I didn't even have children during lockdown but I still know they could travel freely between parental homes.

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:15

FreeWeekend · 05/10/2024 21:11

We didn’t realise that was allowed, she also said it wasn’t, and she didn’t want stepson seeing anyone anyway as she was in contact with an elderly relative.

I don't believe that a decent father wouldn't have made it his business to check that he could see his child in lockdown, and would just blindly believe a woman who is apparently 'insane'.

I live with my children's father so the rule didn't matter to me, but I was still aware that children could go between parents houses.

He said she’s always been unhinged, but she was manageable and a good mum (his words). Since we started doing big things in our relationship she’s ramped it up to another level.

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mindutopia · 05/10/2024 21:15

I think if she is truly that unwell then he needs to intervene and protect his son. I would have been fighting for being nearly full-time with him and something like EOW or supervised contact with his mum.

Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 21:15

We didn’t realise that was allowed, she also said it wasn’t....

So neither you nor your partner listened to any news read any news app? Really, because that stinks to be honest.

Nobody could keep me from my child. Yet your partner was okay with it. If I felt he chose a girlfriend over his child I wouldn't have any respect for him

I think you were fed a line, it sounds like that poor kid has two crap parents.

tuvamoodyson · 05/10/2024 21:16

What is it he does that makes him a ‘brilliant’ dad?

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:17

Why the huge focus over lockdown? His mum also insisted stepson didn’t travel due to her elderly relative. They did weekly zooms, he sent gifts every week and saw him as soon as the draconian rules were lifted.

I’m not sure why everyone is focussing on this one potential slight of my partner, and not the multitude of nutty things his ex has done.

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FuzzyGoblin · 05/10/2024 21:19

I’m guessing that when you break up and you become his second insane ex that you might have a greater understanding.

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:19

Even if he was a shit dad (he’s not) it doesn’t justify her making false CMS claims, leaving her son off with us and upheaving his entire life on a total whim, calling the police, calling social services. I’ve never done anything but be kind and have a brilliant relationship with my stepson.

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UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:20

FuzzyGoblin · 05/10/2024 21:19

I’m guessing that when you break up and you become his second insane ex that you might have a greater understanding.

I certainly wouldn’t be ringing the police unfounded, damaging my child, committing fraud and calling social services just to make his life as miserable as possible.

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Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 21:20

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:17

Why the huge focus over lockdown? His mum also insisted stepson didn’t travel due to her elderly relative. They did weekly zooms, he sent gifts every week and saw him as soon as the draconian rules were lifted.

I’m not sure why everyone is focussing on this one potential slight of my partner, and not the multitude of nutty things his ex has done.

Because it is a massive flag and really is shocking to parents. It is literally something no parent that I know did.

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