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Partner’s crazy ex wife.

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UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:17

I met my fiancé in 2019. He has one child with his ex wife. He told me from the beginning that his ex wife was unhinged, but I put it down to him using the phrase flippantly, and assumed he had probably done some wrongdoings in their marriage. His friends and family also used to mention how insane she is. I genuinely didn’t take much notice, as how many times as women have we been told about the ‘crazy ex’?

For the first year of dating, everything was fine. However, any time something big happens in our relationship (or any time to be honest) his ex does something nuts.

It first started in March 2020, when my partner and I decided to move in together as we didn’t want to spend lockdown alone. My fiancés ex sent him a huge rambling email, probably over 2000 words long, accusing him of being unsafe, killing vulnerable people, that we were terrible for breaking lockdown rules. We didn’t do anything to break the rules, other than combine our households. My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions. Throughout lockdown, we had visits from the police who had been told we were having parties and flouting lockdown rules. We can’t be sure it was his ex wife, but we are pretty certain due to her earlier email, the fact it was all lies and nobody else would have any motivation.

In 2022 my fiance proposed to me, and the day after the proposal, she turned up at our door with my stepson and said that he was living with us from now on. No explanation, just turned up on the doorstep with his bags. This caused huge issues as we had to change our entire lives around to do the school run some half an hour away, take him to all his clubs, his friends houses. We both work full time and didn’t plan for this. Before this, my stepson had been over every weekend, so it was a massive lifestyle change. Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

In 2023, I got a promotion at work. I’m not sure how she found out (maybe LinkedIn, is all I can think?) but a couple of weeks later we had a fraudulent claim made against us via the CMS. She claimed that we never had stepson overnight and we became liable for massive payments which took months and a court order to eventually sort out. In the meantime, we were down thousands and have no way to get the money back, even though it was clear fraud.

Yesterday I announced my pregnancy, and today she has sent my fiancé a long email saying she is going to be reporting us to stepsons school and social services as she doesn’t think we are fit parents, this is despite her up until this point being happy for us to have stepson 50% of the time. We are good people, stepson loves his time here, this is just another attempt to disrupt our lives.

These are all the big things, intermingled in all of this is lots of crazy phone calls, texts, emails. I’m at my wits end. It’s causing huge arguments between me and my fiancé and I’ve reached the point of just wanting to leave and go it alone. I can’t cope with the near constant disruption and living on edge not knowing what she’s going to do next. I feel idiotic as I was warned from the beginning that she was crazy, but it wasn’t until we made major life decisions that she really became a massive disruptor in our lives.

OP posts:
scotstars · 05/10/2024 21:40

Not the point of your post but children absolutely could.go between parent and NRP households during every lockdown. Its 1 of the few things the rules were always clear about.
Sounds like u couldn't be bothered with ur partners child both ur partner and his ex are making accusations about each other yet both seem to want the other person to parent? If I were you I wouldn't speakto her she's clearly enjoying watever reaction she gets from all the dramatics

Monkeysatonthewall · 05/10/2024 21:40

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:37

Maybe it doesn’t seem to add up because it’s literally crazy. I would struggle to believe it if a friend told me about all this.

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OP I'm sorry you're having such hard time here.

SophiaJ8 · 05/10/2024 21:40

Just remember it's you two against the problem, not you two against each other.

This, OP. If she’s genuinely a crazy ex, then most/all of it it is designed to cause problems as why should you be happy if she isn’t.

Rise above it.

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 05/10/2024 21:41

I genuinely didn’t take much notice, as how many times as women have we been told about the ‘crazy ex’?

Personally? Never. This isn't normal, its not par for the course and we need to stop seeing it as such.

It would be a huge red flag to me if that was mentioned because either they really are 'unhinged' (so who knows what they'll do) or the man's a scumbag who's abused someone until they snap. Neither scenario is great, is it?

Rosscameasdoody · 05/10/2024 21:41

Gladicalled · 05/10/2024 21:31

CMS don’t take YOUR wage into account.

So this massive wage going bill you had was based on his wage only.

But surely, since he could prove what he earned and prove he did have overnights that was quickly resolved.

She shouldn’t have lied. But again, I am not sure you have the full story here.

In some circumstances CMS will expect a partner to pay more towards housing so that the parent can provide more maintenance. They look at the income of both partner and parent. I’ve seen it happen twice, and both times it was when the ex had got wind of the partner getting promotion/pay rise. CMS say that they don’t take a partners’ income into account but indirectly this is the same thing.

bitsalty · 05/10/2024 21:43

@Monkeysatonthewall none of this is the OP's fault but she's the one who started the thread. There's two parents here that don't seem to be prioritizing their child.

ChampaignSupernova · 05/10/2024 21:43

Why on earth did you send step son back if his mother is so unhinged? It must be really hard for a 12 year old having his stuff packed and dropped off at his dad's only for his dad and you to send him back as he is too inconvenient and now your having a baby. I understand you may not have been able to sort the clubs or it may have meant moving schools but if she's as bad as you say she is then surely that would have been the better option?

Reugny · 05/10/2024 21:44

DinosaurMunch · 05/10/2024 21:22

How does CMS work then? I thought it was taken from PAYE earnings or based on tax returns. Surely you can't just claim any amount you want from CMS?

It is but often they make mistakes and it is not helped by one parent sending/telling them false information.

For example someone, we suspect DP's ex, kept telling them our child didn't exist every year for 4 years.

So every single year DP had to prove she existed as soon as he got the calculation on what he owed. This meant every year for 2 months he over paid his ex then paid her less for the 10 months following.

The first time DP had to find out what to do but after that he could do it very quickly.

KysMumma · 05/10/2024 21:45

Yeah i dont understand why everyone is focusing on lockdown and calling her partner a deadbeat like wtf!! Shes explain the ex wife didnt want her child around anyone plus this was 3/4 years ago, this post is about an unhinged ex trying to disrupt their life with false allegations!

Firstly I know its a stressful situation, even more so now your pregnant but try not to fall out with your partner as this is exactly what she wants.
Secondly you need to call the police for harassment because that is what shes doing and it seems to be getting worse as time goes on.
Thirdly is there a grandparent or other family member on your partners side that could be the go between and have your partner completely cut contact with his ex wife?
And lastly, I just wanna say sorry youve had to deal with this for so long, but just focus on your pregnancy, dont let her get to you. Ps when babys here you will be much less likely to put up with the tihs, becoming a mum really does somthing to you lol x

tuvamoodyson · 05/10/2024 21:45

So, this brilliant dad is happy for his child to stay with an unhinged and insane woman? That poor child…

Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 21:46

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:32

Even if my DP was a shit dad, it still doesn’t justify her unhinged behaviour.

I’m assuming she knows what we’re doing as she stalks our social media and sends ranting emails shortly after anything significant happens in our lives. Or it could be completely coincidental (very doubtful).

Nope you can't backtrack now. He was a brilliant dad up until you actually told us the reality so what else isn't being shared.

Because the biggest thing that screams from this is he left his son with his so called crazy ex wife during a global pandemic. I couldn't even look at a person who behaved that way.

Good luck I have a funny feeling you will be the future crazy ex.

Sux2buthen · 05/10/2024 21:46

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:17

Why the huge focus over lockdown? His mum also insisted stepson didn’t travel due to her elderly relative. They did weekly zooms, he sent gifts every week and saw him as soon as the draconian rules were lifted.

I’m not sure why everyone is focussing on this one potential slight of my partner, and not the multitude of nutty things his ex has done.

They want to blame the man

Choochoo21 · 05/10/2024 21:47

Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

If he’s such a good dad then why couldn’t he be the residential parent long term?

Why was it ok for him to only see his son EOW but then when he was the RP he tried to persuade the ex to have him 50/50.

Why couldn’t the ex just see her son EOW like your DP had been doing for years?

Reugny · 05/10/2024 21:47

ChampaignSupernova · 05/10/2024 21:43

Why on earth did you send step son back if his mother is so unhinged? It must be really hard for a 12 year old having his stuff packed and dropped off at his dad's only for his dad and you to send him back as he is too inconvenient and now your having a baby. I understand you may not have been able to sort the clubs or it may have meant moving schools but if she's as bad as you say she is then surely that would have been the better option?

The child is 12.

If a 12 year old wants to see either parent and they don't have any disabilities - then good luck stopping them.

Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 21:47

Sux2buthen · 05/10/2024 21:46

They want to blame the man

Or they have basic common sense standards for parenting....

TheAlchemy · 05/10/2024 21:48

Oh I feel so sorry for this poor boy. Can you imagine anything more devastating that having all of your things packed up and left on someone’s doorstep. Poor kid this must have been utterly traumatic.

Is the current custody agreement court ordered? Why have you never reported her to the police?

As for her reporting you for being unfit parents. Why did she leave the DC on your doorstep if she was so concerned about your parenting ability? That one is very easy to counter.

I think you need to prepare yourself that once your baby is born you’re probably going to be getting false SS reports and all sorts. I’d be nipping this in the bud right now by getting the police involved with her.

I agree with PP you’d DP doesn’t sound like dad of the year or Prince Charming but your priority right now needs to be to protect yourself and your baby.

Reugny · 05/10/2024 21:49

Choochoo21 · 05/10/2024 21:47

Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

If he’s such a good dad then why couldn’t he be the residential parent long term?

Why was it ok for him to only see his son EOW but then when he was the RP he tried to persuade the ex to have him 50/50.

Why couldn’t the ex just see her son EOW like your DP had been doing for years?

The child is 12.

If a 12 year old who had spent his life seeing both parents wants to continue to do so, then regardless of whether one parent acts unhinged towards the other, the Family Court isn't going to stop the child doing so.

Shadesofscarlett · 05/10/2024 21:49

seems odd that whenever anything happens in your life she finds out instantly. How is she finding all this out? Are you sure he is not still communicating stuff back to her on the quiet?

WalkingaroundJardine · 05/10/2024 21:49

If she has “always been unhinged” but your partner formed a relationship with her anyway and had a child with her, it was not a great decision on his part. Life now is part of the consequences of his choices made back then, even when the signs were there. It’s on him to deal with and resolve this, not you.

I would get him to create a separate email account for your DH to communicate with her and block her from everything else. My ex was a SM stalker too but it was quite easy to block him from everything and only communicate via email. I had to block him from texting and calling my phone too, as he would bombard it with angry messages.

Reugny · 05/10/2024 21:50

Shadesofscarlett · 05/10/2024 21:49

seems odd that whenever anything happens in your life she finds out instantly. How is she finding all this out? Are you sure he is not still communicating stuff back to her on the quiet?

They tell the step-son and he tells his mother not realising she is batshit.

Shyfrog · 05/10/2024 21:51

I feel sorry for you but more sorry for her because of her mental health issues and the trauma of her marriage ending

Choochoo21 · 05/10/2024 21:51

Reugny · 05/10/2024 21:49

The child is 12.

If a 12 year old who had spent his life seeing both parents wants to continue to do so, then regardless of whether one parent acts unhinged towards the other, the Family Court isn't going to stop the child doing so.

He was seeing both parents.

He can live with his dad and still see his mum, just like he saw his dad when he lived with his mum.

ElleWoods15 · 05/10/2024 21:51

Korn4 · 05/10/2024 20:20

Do you really picture a happy future with your fiancé?? Sounds like a lot of drama.

If they had shared custody he definitely was allowed to see his child during that time. Did he choose not to?

Tonkerbea · 05/10/2024 21:52

Your poor stepson, being pulled back and forth.

Not your fault OP, but his parents have not put their son first in any of this.

If someone told me I couldn't see my child because of their interpretation of lockdown rules, I would have done more than blithely accept it.

ForBetterForWorseOrNot · 05/10/2024 21:52

Court will likely laugh at her. She was happy with 50 50 for a long time and to pass her child over full time when it was convenient to her. I would be taking her to court for full custody and saying she is unstable.

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