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To think there's going to be a Civil War in America

424 replies

LaurieFairyCake · 01/07/2024 19:14

I mean, they're fucked aren't they

Now that Trump isn't getting prosecuted after today for the January 6th atrocities

And Biden 🤦‍♀️ - they might replace him

It's so awful - so terribly polarised

I think it's a real possibility

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billysboy · 01/07/2024 19:16

It’s not that bad I would nt predict a war

Whataretalkingabout · 01/07/2024 19:17

Don't be ridiculous. That's how democracy works.

C1N1C · 01/07/2024 19:20

It's already going to pot in California... you can basically walk I to any shop and walk out with $900 worth of free stuff!

NotAgainWilson · 01/07/2024 19:23

civil war? I do bloody wish! Trump had and continues to have sooooo many supporters I bet he would win by a massive majority even if Biden’s performance at the debate had not been such a disgrace.

ElecticBetty · 01/07/2024 19:24

I agree with you op. Again and again America manages to make the worst decisions on some easy choices.

A malignant narcissist for President? Sure! Gun control? Fuck no! Abortion rights? No way! A young competent President? Absolutely fucking not.

It’s going to Hell. I don’t see a positive way out of it, it’s spiralling. It’s either side of the political divide feel angry and emboldened.

The swift and severe action against the Jan 6 rioters was a positive step in the right direction, but everything else since then is a drip drip drip

LaPalmaLlama · 01/07/2024 19:25

Trump will probably win to be fair. I mean I don’t know anyone who now doesn’t think that on a balance of probabilities but because of term limits he can’t run again so at least the end is in sight. Democrats are idiots for sticking with Biden and expecting everyone to swallow their BS about how he’s totally fine normally when that’s clearly not that case. I don’t think it’s necessarily going to lead to civil war though.

US is arguably less polarised than France, and potentially less than us in four years time.

DinnaeFashYersel · 01/07/2024 19:25

Whataretalkingabout · 01/07/2024 19:17

Don't be ridiculous. That's how democracy works.

Exactly. It's a well established democracy with a robust justice system and checks and balances.

SpareHeirOverThere · 01/07/2024 19:26

Whataretalkingabout · 01/07/2024 19:17

Don't be ridiculous. That's how democracy works.

I missed the lesson on democracy that included a violent insurrection and invasion of Congress, and the refusal to accept the outcome of an election.

IfImOnFire · 01/07/2024 19:27

LaPalmaLlama · 01/07/2024 19:25

Trump will probably win to be fair. I mean I don’t know anyone who now doesn’t think that on a balance of probabilities but because of term limits he can’t run again so at least the end is in sight. Democrats are idiots for sticking with Biden and expecting everyone to swallow their BS about how he’s totally fine normally when that’s clearly not that case. I don’t think it’s necessarily going to lead to civil war though.

US is arguably less polarised than France, and potentially less than us in four years time.

He won't keep the two term limit once he's in.

soupfiend · 01/07/2024 19:27

With guns, n' shootin' n' fightin'?

No.

Although would we really notice the difference?

LaurieFairyCake · 01/07/2024 19:29

There are no checks and balances

Trump states he wants out of NATO - he is happy for Russian aggression. He thinks the only threat is China

He will get rid of all abortion, trample human rights into the gutter and make as much money for his family as he can in 5 years

Plus he will rig the courts for decades

And he has said he's going to have his enemies arrested

Literally NONE of that is democracy at work

I'm appalled anyone thinks the US actually acts in a democratic way

If he wins it will be horrific

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saltinesandcoffeecups · 01/07/2024 19:30

/Start Sarcasm

See it’s a good thing we all kept our guns here, right? They come in handy during civil wars. Although the outcome may be weighted towards one side vs. the other based on the gun owner demographics.

/End Sarcasm

We’ll be just fine… how about you worry about your own election

LaurieFairyCake · 01/07/2024 19:31

He said yesterday that the insurrectionists who were jailed for January 6th will be freed when he takes office

THEY KILLED COPS AND ATTACKED GUARDS

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hastalava · 01/07/2024 19:32

IfImOnFire · 01/07/2024 19:27

He won't keep the two term limit once he's in.

The Army will kick him out. There are many checks and balances to ensure he doesn't become a Western version of Kim Jong Un. I hope.....

saltinesandcoffeecups · 01/07/2024 19:33

Oh goody the scare mongering has started

saltinesandcoffeecups · 01/07/2024 19:34

@LaurieFairyCake you really are embarrassing yourself with all of your factual inaccuracies

ll09sm · 01/07/2024 19:34

Why so much hyperbole.

You think these things happen by accident or some co incidence.

Biden’s dementia was always visible, or at least clear as day in the 2020 campaign. His handlers knew that he would not make 2024 election. Trump’s prosecution and indictment has only helped his supporter base grow.

Would it have been that hard for Biden’s handlers to make him wriggle out of the tv debate? No, but the debate still went ahead like clockwork and he came across as an old man with dementia. It’s hardly a natural course of events.

Things in the US are going exactly as they are planned.

schloss · 01/07/2024 19:34

No there will not. Just like all the other threads on here about the UK elections, there are people who hold different opinions and they are allowed to vote accordingly. There will not be civil war in the US or the UK or France where there are parties who may gain power, but which many deem them the "wrong" choice as they do not share the opinions of many who think left is good, right is bad.

Lalalacrosse · 01/07/2024 19:34

LaurieFairyCake · 01/07/2024 19:31

He said yesterday that the insurrectionists who were jailed for January 6th will be freed when he takes office

THEY KILLED COPS AND ATTACKED GUARDS

They did not kill cops. Even US democrats admit that now (except the crazy ones).

Stop the hyperbole. Put down the social
media. Trump will win. He’ll be in for 4 years. Then there will be another election and maybe that time two far younger people can duke it out.

LaurieFairyCake · 01/07/2024 19:36

He was a security guard who had 2 strokes and died the next day

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Bestyearever2024 · 01/07/2024 19:38

ll09sm · 01/07/2024 19:34

Why so much hyperbole.

You think these things happen by accident or some co incidence.

Biden’s dementia was always visible, or at least clear as day in the 2020 campaign. His handlers knew that he would not make 2024 election. Trump’s prosecution and indictment has only helped his supporter base grow.

Would it have been that hard for Biden’s handlers to make him wriggle out of the tv debate? No, but the debate still went ahead like clockwork and he came across as an old man with dementia. It’s hardly a natural course of events.

Things in the US are going exactly as they are planned.

I've wondered this, @ll09sm. At any stage different choices could have been made and yet those choices weren't made.

The MAGAs intend to rule and rule they will 🥺🥺

LordPercyPercy · 01/07/2024 19:39

We've already had four years of Trump and the world didn't end. Relax.

Bestyearever2024 · 01/07/2024 19:40

LordPercyPercy · 01/07/2024 19:39

We've already had four years of Trump and the world didn't end. Relax.

He had way more checks and balances placed on him then. Those brave people have gone

LaurieFairyCake · 01/07/2024 19:40

Lalalcrosse

You think it's ok that on the day he takes office he lets the insurrectionists go free?

Does anyone thinks that's ok?

They're duly sentenced and then let go

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Lalalacrosse · 01/07/2024 19:41

LaurieFairyCake · 01/07/2024 19:36

He was a security guard who had 2 strokes and died the next day

He was not killed by Jan 6 people. Repeating the lie doesn’t make it true.

Seriously. Calm down. Get a grip. Biden has visible dementia. It’s sad. Trump will win and - a a surprise I know - won’t actually turn out to be the antichrist. The world will turn. There won’t be a civil war.