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To think there's going to be a Civil War in America

424 replies

LaurieFairyCake · 01/07/2024 19:14

I mean, they're fucked aren't they

Now that Trump isn't getting prosecuted after today for the January 6th atrocities

And Biden 🤦‍♀️ - they might replace him

It's so awful - so terribly polarised

I think it's a real possibility

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LordPercyPercy · 01/07/2024 20:03

Okay you're right, have a massive panic and work yourself into a state, that will definitely help.

LordPercyPercy · 01/07/2024 20:05

Yep, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone defending Trump on MN before and now suddenly everyone is…

Behave. I'm not defending Trump. I just think the hysteria is pointless.

ElecticBetty · 01/07/2024 20:06

Singersong · 01/07/2024 19:43

You've got a lot to say for someone so clueless.

Donald Trump did not cause January 6th.

Pull the other one, it’s got bells on 😂

ElecticBetty · 01/07/2024 20:06

Singersong · 01/07/2024 19:49

There's no hope for you. You believe everything the mainstream media tells you.

If mumsnet had the block function, anyone who says Mainstream Media in a dismissive tone would immediately go on it 😂

YNK · 01/07/2024 20:07

The CIA don't care who gets in the Whitehouse and civil unrest works in the favour of control.

capitanaamerica · 01/07/2024 20:10

How? Both Trump and Biden have already been president. The world isn't going to end if one of them is again. As for a civil war - the people who could effectively revolt have too much to lose and the people with nothing to lose are neither organized enough nor powerful enough to do much beyond sporadic localized actions. Uncivil war, however - I think that's a given.

Youneverevencallmebymyname · 01/07/2024 20:11

SpareHeirOverThere · 01/07/2024 19:26

I missed the lesson on democracy that included a violent insurrection and invasion of Congress, and the refusal to accept the outcome of an election.

Hillary Clinton said the election was stolen when Trump won, too. No one cared.

Youneverevencallmebymyname · 01/07/2024 20:14

hairbearbunches · 01/07/2024 19:44

Wonder whether people were saying the same thing and poo-pooing the danger when Putin got in to power 🤔

if there were proper checks and balances in the US, he’d have been removed from office while he was still in his first term.

Obama painted Mitt Romney as an idiot when he claimed Putin was the largest threat to America. No one cared and on that key point Romney lost the election to a relatively unknown guy.

Nightowl1234 · 01/07/2024 20:16

ll09sm · 01/07/2024 19:34

Why so much hyperbole.

You think these things happen by accident or some co incidence.

Biden’s dementia was always visible, or at least clear as day in the 2020 campaign. His handlers knew that he would not make 2024 election. Trump’s prosecution and indictment has only helped his supporter base grow.

Would it have been that hard for Biden’s handlers to make him wriggle out of the tv debate? No, but the debate still went ahead like clockwork and he came across as an old man with dementia. It’s hardly a natural course of events.

Things in the US are going exactly as they are planned.

Interesting theory….! Can you expand some more? Who is behind this plot? Are you suggesting Biden’s aides are secret Republicans? Genuinely interested in this theory!

Youneverevencallmebymyname · 01/07/2024 20:17

LaurieFairyCake · 01/07/2024 19:47

He caused January 6th by lying consistently that the election was rigged so that the events happened

And by not saying anything on the day to moderate the situation, in fact he said he 'agreed with the proud boy's'

Please link a video where he “agreed with the proud boys”. He didn’t know who they were, how could he agree with them? And about what?

ElecticBetty · 01/07/2024 20:17

1 Our British intelligence service said Putin and Russia have brilliant dirt on Trump (or more accurately, evidence of piss on Trump).

2 Trump went hand in with the ultra religious groups to get into office - and then stacked the Supreme Court from the political right.

3 Trump worked with a lot of good, decent republicans and then fired most people with integrity. Those who didnt have much integrity, found their last modicum of it during Jan 6th and he fell out with the rest. Lord knows what hooligans he intends to prop up a govt with because he holds grudges and fell out with most competent honourable republicans.

4 he’s made it very clear America won’t intervene in world conflict due to the cost - so he’s being pushed heavily by global terrorists to get him in

he’s got no checks and balances. No one he will have in senior leadership with morals. A justice system he’s hand picked. A fan base of nut jobs who want to keep women quiet, keep men armed and politicians who agree because their voter base are financially rich lunatics.

And worse than all that - the Democrats handed Biden the throne 4 years ago and now he won’t get off. Probably because he’s too old to get out of a chair without someone helping him up.

this is one of the largest democracies in the world that has huge influence on financial markets and global security.

its fucking fucked. They’ve fucked it.

iamtheblcksheep · 01/07/2024 20:19

The uk has more chance of civil war than the US who seem to be heading in the right direction hopefully with the exception of the democratic cesspits.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 01/07/2024 20:19

LaurieFairyCake · 01/07/2024 19:53

And yes of course I listen to MAINSTREAM media, you think I should listen to influencers tik tok or crazy ranters like Fox News?

The whole point of mainstream is that it's pretty balanced, and researched by real journalists

The same MSM that declared Hunter Biden’s laptop story as a hoax right up until they had to admit it was real?

The same MSM that had to pay out a $250M defamation settlement when they falsely ran stories proven to be untrue about a child?

The same MSM that ran with and perpetuated the Russian collusion story that was started by HRC’s campaign?

The whole point of mainstream is that it's pretty balanced, and researched by real journalists

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LaurieFairyCake · 01/07/2024 20:19

Well Reuters report it here :

"Stand back and stand by" he said to them

To think there's going to be a Civil War in America
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Youneverevencallmebymyname · 01/07/2024 20:20

LaurieFairyCake · 01/07/2024 19:48

He's been convicted on 38 counts and he's likely to take office

Only a crazy person would think that ok 😮

The 38 counts are about paperwork! It’s absolutely crazy to convict someone of a felony because a payment wasn’t recorded a certain way. No one is charged with a felony for something like this.

How is this not terrifying that Biden is using the justice department to go after the only person opposing him? Or maybe it’s Jill and Hunter pulling the strings, as Hunter is still his top advisor and Biden clearly doesn’t know where he is much of the time.

Anewone5 · 01/07/2024 20:20

Are you winding us up?

CanadianJohn · 01/07/2024 20:22

According to the Economist Democracy Index, in 2016 the US dropped into the category of "flawed democracy", and has been dropping steadily ever since.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index

But I don't think a civil war is likely.

The Economist Democracy Index - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index

fliptopbin · 01/07/2024 20:22

OP, when you are talking about civil unrest, are you talking about the election, or todays news about Trump getting immunity via the Supreme court?

Youneverevencallmebymyname · 01/07/2024 20:22

LaurieFairyCake · 01/07/2024 20:19

Well Reuters report it here :

"Stand back and stand by" he said to them

Have you watched the actual video of the debate where this happened? He said he didn’t even know who they were and they kept pressing him for a “message”. “What would you say to them?”

Most people in the US never heard of them before this moment.

Dymaxion · 01/07/2024 20:24

I think it is sad that in a country of over 300million people, these two older white men are the only options for President.

Is there going to be a civil war ? highly unlikely.

Will some people use this as an excuse to act badly ? probably.

Will it mean more than 43,000 people die as a result of gunshot wounds ? possibly.

It makes our options in the UK seem quite sane, that and it only costs £500 to stand as a candidate to be an MP.

ArseyVarsey · 01/07/2024 20:24

What @StaunchMomma said. There were so many dumbfucks. And the guns? They think the solution is more guns.
So….the stupid fucknuggets will kill each other. Population control. Less fucknuggetry, more peace and civility in the future.

Youneverevencallmebymyname · 01/07/2024 20:25

ArseyVarsey · 01/07/2024 20:24

What @StaunchMomma said. There were so many dumbfucks. And the guns? They think the solution is more guns.
So….the stupid fucknuggets will kill each other. Population control. Less fucknuggetry, more peace and civility in the future.

So your suggestion is that more gun violence will lead to peace and population control?

Youneverevencallmebymyname · 01/07/2024 20:27

ElecticBetty · 01/07/2024 20:17

1 Our British intelligence service said Putin and Russia have brilliant dirt on Trump (or more accurately, evidence of piss on Trump).

2 Trump went hand in with the ultra religious groups to get into office - and then stacked the Supreme Court from the political right.

3 Trump worked with a lot of good, decent republicans and then fired most people with integrity. Those who didnt have much integrity, found their last modicum of it during Jan 6th and he fell out with the rest. Lord knows what hooligans he intends to prop up a govt with because he holds grudges and fell out with most competent honourable republicans.

4 he’s made it very clear America won’t intervene in world conflict due to the cost - so he’s being pushed heavily by global terrorists to get him in

he’s got no checks and balances. No one he will have in senior leadership with morals. A justice system he’s hand picked. A fan base of nut jobs who want to keep women quiet, keep men armed and politicians who agree because their voter base are financially rich lunatics.

And worse than all that - the Democrats handed Biden the throne 4 years ago and now he won’t get off. Probably because he’s too old to get out of a chair without someone helping him up.

this is one of the largest democracies in the world that has huge influence on financial markets and global security.

its fucking fucked. They’ve fucked it.

I can’t get past the first point. Do a little more research. The DNC and Clinton’s paid someone to say that. Why aren’t they all in prison?

So much disinformation out there. This is why Trump will win, actually. Because when you see people in charge lie to this level and twist things, you can’t vote for them. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it.

ArseyVarsey · 01/07/2024 20:28

@Youneverevencallmebymyname The population control will come about by the idiots shooting each other. The Yanks will never sort out their gun control because they’re that stupid.

Greaterorlesser · 01/07/2024 20:30

I can’t see civil war breaking out. Probably some cars set on fire and trainer shops looted is likely though