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Don’t understand why Hens are such a big thing?

223 replies

Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 07:25

Just reading yet another Hen drama on here.

I just don’t understand why Hen parties are now such a big deal! AIBU?

I’ve a friend who is my age but whose Husband is ten years her junior. Subsequently, her Husband’s friends (he has a group he is still mates with from school, who now all live miles and miles apart but by the sounds of it, see each other 5/6 times a year) are all starting to settle down. My friend has been invited on 3 big Hen parties (1 abroad for 5 days and 2 x 3 nights away in this country) since 2022. My friend is equally perplexed as to why she gets invited to these things. She did go to the first as her sister is mates with the bride and was there also. But she said it costs her about £400 for transport, accommodation, fancy dress and activities including one meal and booze for the house (my friend doesn’t drink).

Admittedly, I’ve been married 16 years. So maybe I’m old fashioned. But I can’t see in what scenario I’d expect friends and family to fork out hundreds of pounds to help “see me off”.

I mean, if I had a group of friends who holidayed/partied together ordinarily, I can see why that might well be great. But to then add partners
of the best man/others from the groom’s side, family and other friends, why should I think that would work and why on earth should these people all go to great expense for me?

For my hen, I had a night out that started as a couple of drinks at my parent’s house, a train into the town where we met others who didn’t want to/seemed silly travel to my parent’s in advance, a meal at a buffet type place and then onto a couple of pubs and club for those who wanted to. I really did have the best time. Everyone paid for themselves. Although I did get few bottles of wine put on the table and my mum bought these pin badges that said “Duffduff’s hen” with the date. Oh, and everyone wore black except me - I was told to wear a white top. My b/f and sister arranged it all but when I say arranged it, they literally booked the table in the restaurant once I knew who could attend and planned which pubs to go to (they obviously also got in touch with everyone to say wear black and told me to wear a white top but this is something they instigated and I didn’t know about until a week before).

I realise my hen may seem like hell on earth for others if they don’t like meals out/clubs, but my point is it doesn’t always have to involve nightmare logistics, a presents for the bride, nights away and warring bridal parties which surely then can have a knock on effect/added stress for the actual wedding!

Why do so many Hen parties seem so big now? Do the brides really need to feel celebrated to this extent/friends and family feel the need to show their love for the bride by throwing money around? Or have norms moved on so much in this last decade and a half and I’ve lost touch? ( I should add, my friend who I mentioned up thread, got married in 2019, and had an afternoon tea in a hall surrounded by about 20 guests and then went drinking with her sister and the few that wanted to in the evening.)

I realise upon writing this I may sound grumpy and old but I’m a few years off 40 and love a good night out!

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RampantIvy · 07/05/2024 07:29

I agree with you.
If more invitees declined these invitations they would die a death.

Being ancient, the only hen dos I have been on have always just been a meal out and a few drinks in one evening.

BigBadBarri · 07/05/2024 07:36

theres a concept which seems really weird on mumsnet but it’s called “having friends and celebrating stuff”. There is another concept which centres around saying no to stuff you don’t want to go to.

big hens and small hens are fine, go to what you want or decline what you don’t but this reverse snobbery of “I celebrated with my mum only and we drank tap water and dry crusts of bread and everyone said it was the best hen we’d ever been to” is really boring

Left · 07/05/2024 07:39

Was getting ready to be defensive as I thought this would be about chickens 🤣🤣

Alicewinn · 07/05/2024 07:42

Yeah i dont get the hen thing either

StinkyWizzleteets · 07/05/2024 07:43

I while we’re moaning, I hate that it’s been shortened to Hens rather than hen do or hen party. Leave the chickens out of this, they’re just having a clucking great time.

Elephantswillnever · 07/05/2024 07:43

I just had a meal out/ some fizz with friends. We didn’t wear badges or anything. You wouldn’t have known we were “hens” I do think people get swept up
in it all and want it to be a series of amazing, memorable experiences. Which all gets expensive and everyone does similar stuff so people up the ante. Before you know it, it’s costing a fortune.

LittleBooThang · 07/05/2024 07:44

BigBadBarri · 07/05/2024 07:36

theres a concept which seems really weird on mumsnet but it’s called “having friends and celebrating stuff”. There is another concept which centres around saying no to stuff you don’t want to go to.

big hens and small hens are fine, go to what you want or decline what you don’t but this reverse snobbery of “I celebrated with my mum only and we drank tap water and dry crusts of bread and everyone said it was the best hen we’d ever been to” is really boring

Edited

Absolutely this.

alloweraoway · 07/05/2024 07:45

Left · 07/05/2024 07:39

Was getting ready to be defensive as I thought this would be about chickens 🤣🤣

I thought so too, yes, chickens are quite a lot bigger than some people realise!

IsoldeWagner · 07/05/2024 07:45

Because people nowadays have much more of a disposable income.
When me and my friends got married, it was a meal out or going to a wine bar. No-one had the money for an extra holiday.
People now can afford holidays, events and spas etc
Plus: social media, of course.

Firsttimemama98 · 07/05/2024 07:46

YANBU and I’m only mid twenties, I think they’re tacky

Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 07:46

BigBadBarri · 07/05/2024 07:36

theres a concept which seems really weird on mumsnet but it’s called “having friends and celebrating stuff”. There is another concept which centres around saying no to stuff you don’t want to go to.

big hens and small hens are fine, go to what you want or decline what you don’t but this reverse snobbery of “I celebrated with my mum only and we drank tap water and dry crusts of bread and everyone said it was the best hen we’d ever been to” is really boring

Edited

At no point did I say my hen was suited to everyone. I did say “I realise my hen may seem like hell on earth for others”. I also said I can see how celebrating on a holiday with a close group of friends could work.

I did celebrate with friends and family (you will see, I did just that) but you’ve got me - I can admit to probably eating dry bread at the buffet and drinking water at some point to too because that’s the way I roll to avoid a hangover.

And yes, saying no is admirable. But so many of the threads about Hen nights seem to show that saying no is either not made easy by organisers or sometimes the brides.

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IsoldeWagner · 07/05/2024 07:48

You're right OP. The stories on here about hen dos - the expense, the effort, the pressure.
Just chill with your mates.

FrenchandSaunders · 07/05/2024 07:48

Well I’m 56 and got married in the mid 90s and I had a long weekend away in Devon (3nights) with ten friends. I think going abroad was unusual then but certainly not weekends in UK.

IsoldeWagner · 07/05/2024 07:49

FrenchandSaunders · 07/05/2024 07:48

Well I’m 56 and got married in the mid 90s and I had a long weekend away in Devon (3nights) with ten friends. I think going abroad was unusual then but certainly not weekends in UK.

That's fine, but I didn't know anyone who did that then, perhaps we were lower earners.

CypressSunflower · 07/05/2024 07:50

Ha ha ha. I’m just thinking of getting some hens so came on to see if there was a craze for keeping hens at the moment. I’m very tired today 😂

BigBadBarri · 07/05/2024 07:52

Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 07:46

At no point did I say my hen was suited to everyone. I did say “I realise my hen may seem like hell on earth for others”. I also said I can see how celebrating on a holiday with a close group of friends could work.

I did celebrate with friends and family (you will see, I did just that) but you’ve got me - I can admit to probably eating dry bread at the buffet and drinking water at some point to too because that’s the way I roll to avoid a hangover.

And yes, saying no is admirable. But so many of the threads about Hen nights seem to show that saying no is either not made easy by organisers or sometimes the brides.

then what is it you don’t understand?

Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 07:52

IsoldeWagner · 07/05/2024 07:45

Because people nowadays have much more of a disposable income.
When me and my friends got married, it was a meal out or going to a wine bar. No-one had the money for an extra holiday.
People now can afford holidays, events and spas etc
Plus: social media, of course.

Yes I can see this might well be a consideration.

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Pyri · 07/05/2024 07:53

RampantIvy · 07/05/2024 07:29

I agree with you.
If more invitees declined these invitations they would die a death.

Being ancient, the only hen dos I have been on have always just been a meal out and a few drinks in one evening.

Why do these invitations need to die a death? Do you not think some people might actually enjoy them?

Revelatio · 07/05/2024 07:53

I’ve been to ones like yours and ones abroad. The ones abroad were with a friendship group where we regularly have a weekend away together. All have been fun.

Do people really have friends who they feel scared to say no to? In my friendship groups, there is never any pressure to do anything you don’t want to do or can afford.

PaminaMozart · 07/05/2024 07:53

IsoldeWagner · 07/05/2024 07:45

Because people nowadays have much more of a disposable income.
When me and my friends got married, it was a meal out or going to a wine bar. No-one had the money for an extra holiday.
People now can afford holidays, events and spas etc
Plus: social media, of course.

And yet hardly a day goes by where someone isn't stressing about being able to afford a Hen Do that they have been invited to.

I strongly believe that any Hen Do should be designed with 'the least well off but would not want them to be left out person' in mind.

ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie · 07/05/2024 07:53

A day out in London, mostly doing free things, followed by a meal out was a big deal for me, as a country bumpkin!

Never been on a multi day one, never been invited. Not sure I even know anyone who has had one.

RampantIvy · 07/05/2024 07:53

But so many of the threads about Hen nights seem to show that saying no is either not made easy by organisers or sometimes the brides.

Perhaps, you haven't seen many of this type ^^ of thread @BigBadBarri.

I think the main problem is that the costs for these weekend events start spiralling out of control.

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 07/05/2024 07:53

I agree. These hens which are extortionate weekends with women who don't know each other sound awful. Everyone feeling pressured to give up family time and spend loads of money. Recipe for bad feelings.

I went for an Italian meal meal and some drinks for mine.

DH went for a pub crawl for his stag.

Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 07:54

BigBadBarri · 07/05/2024 07:52

then what is it you don’t understand?

As someone else pointed out, the expense, the stress…

And why they have to be so very big!

But I can see we won’t agree on this!

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AuntieMarys · 07/05/2024 07:54

I'm mid 60s and have never been on one. Married twice and never had one.