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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Don’t understand why Hens are such a big thing?

223 replies

Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 07:25

Just reading yet another Hen drama on here.

I just don’t understand why Hen parties are now such a big deal! AIBU?

I’ve a friend who is my age but whose Husband is ten years her junior. Subsequently, her Husband’s friends (he has a group he is still mates with from school, who now all live miles and miles apart but by the sounds of it, see each other 5/6 times a year) are all starting to settle down. My friend has been invited on 3 big Hen parties (1 abroad for 5 days and 2 x 3 nights away in this country) since 2022. My friend is equally perplexed as to why she gets invited to these things. She did go to the first as her sister is mates with the bride and was there also. But she said it costs her about £400 for transport, accommodation, fancy dress and activities including one meal and booze for the house (my friend doesn’t drink).

Admittedly, I’ve been married 16 years. So maybe I’m old fashioned. But I can’t see in what scenario I’d expect friends and family to fork out hundreds of pounds to help “see me off”.

I mean, if I had a group of friends who holidayed/partied together ordinarily, I can see why that might well be great. But to then add partners
of the best man/others from the groom’s side, family and other friends, why should I think that would work and why on earth should these people all go to great expense for me?

For my hen, I had a night out that started as a couple of drinks at my parent’s house, a train into the town where we met others who didn’t want to/seemed silly travel to my parent’s in advance, a meal at a buffet type place and then onto a couple of pubs and club for those who wanted to. I really did have the best time. Everyone paid for themselves. Although I did get few bottles of wine put on the table and my mum bought these pin badges that said “Duffduff’s hen” with the date. Oh, and everyone wore black except me - I was told to wear a white top. My b/f and sister arranged it all but when I say arranged it, they literally booked the table in the restaurant once I knew who could attend and planned which pubs to go to (they obviously also got in touch with everyone to say wear black and told me to wear a white top but this is something they instigated and I didn’t know about until a week before).

I realise my hen may seem like hell on earth for others if they don’t like meals out/clubs, but my point is it doesn’t always have to involve nightmare logistics, a presents for the bride, nights away and warring bridal parties which surely then can have a knock on effect/added stress for the actual wedding!

Why do so many Hen parties seem so big now? Do the brides really need to feel celebrated to this extent/friends and family feel the need to show their love for the bride by throwing money around? Or have norms moved on so much in this last decade and a half and I’ve lost touch? ( I should add, my friend who I mentioned up thread, got married in 2019, and had an afternoon tea in a hall surrounded by about 20 guests and then went drinking with her sister and the few that wanted to in the evening.)

I realise upon writing this I may sound grumpy and old but I’m a few years off 40 and love a good night out!

OP posts:
SpringerFall · 07/05/2024 16:48

BigBadBarri · 07/05/2024 07:36

theres a concept which seems really weird on mumsnet but it’s called “having friends and celebrating stuff”. There is another concept which centres around saying no to stuff you don’t want to go to.

big hens and small hens are fine, go to what you want or decline what you don’t but this reverse snobbery of “I celebrated with my mum only and we drank tap water and dry crusts of bread and everyone said it was the best hen we’d ever been to” is really boring

Edited

Normally and personally I would agree with you, I am happy to say no if i don't want to go to something bur in some circles people will hold grudges and create drama if people don't show up

I am fine with any event and will decide then and there if I can or want to go or not but it is not always that simple

UseOfWeapons · 07/05/2024 17:18

My mum, aunty, MIL to be, and best friends came to my place and we had nibbles and a glass of wine. I just wanted to be with the people I love, and have some time with them before the actual wedding day. It was perfect, for me. 👌

AndromedaGalaxyBar · 07/05/2024 17:21

I really don’t like them and I didn’t have one myself, but I think certain personalities enjoy them enough, especially if you’re more of an extrovert/social person.
For me, unless I know everyone going, it’s going to be awkward and potentially stressful, and spending a lot of money and time to be stressed/uncomfortable doesn’t appeal. I think they are great fun if you’re into it, and more power to those who are, but think the expectations that everyone be “on board” with them are unreasonable. Luckily, all my friends have been very relaxed and reasonable about theirs, and whether people can come or not, so as always it depends on the individual!

fungipie · 07/05/2024 17:27

Alicewinn · 07/05/2024 07:42

Yeah i dont get the hen thing either

Agreed-it's gone really stupid and so expensive.

Nought wrong with a night or week-end out with friends before- but not to Timbuktu by helicopter, etc.!

And then we read elsewhere on MN that people get saddled with debts from wedding (inc. hen and stag dos of course) for decades beyond- putting so much pressure on the couple and family.

Sugarplumsandpears · 08/05/2024 07:04

SpringerFall · 07/05/2024 16:48

Normally and personally I would agree with you, I am happy to say no if i don't want to go to something bur in some circles people will hold grudges and create drama if people don't show up

I am fine with any event and will decide then and there if I can or want to go or not but it is not always that simple

I agree, it's not always that simple to just say no to going to a friend's hen do. My 'friend' stopped speaking to me five years ago ( we'd been friends for 30 years) because I decided to politely back out of attending her Hen do.

I backed out as the original cost (which her daughter's made all the arrangements for a weekend away, insisting that it would only cost everyone £150.00 max) started to spiral out of control, and they weren't being realistic that the actual cost to everyone would be in the region of at least £400.
I couldn't justify spending so much money on a hen do in a town miles away. No travel or food and drinks costs were factored into anything.

We were to pay for the bride to be's share too, and we were also going to be expected to pay for our own meal at her wedding. It wouldn't have been so bad if the bride was just starting out, but she'd lived with her partner for around 20 years and their kids had grown up, so to expect people to shell out so much was grabby imo looking back.

Brefugee · 08/05/2024 07:21

I agree, it's not always that simple to just say no to going to a friend's hen do. My 'friend' stopped speaking to me five years ago ( we'd been friends for 30 years) because I decided to politely back out of attending her Hen do.

i would point out to the "friend" that isn't how friendships work and not to let the door hit her arse on the way out. Seriously: if you are afraid to say no to your friends you need an intervention. And if you are a friendzilla who can't take a polite "no" for an answer you need to sit down and think about your life.

RampantIvy · 08/05/2024 07:30

@Sugarplumsandpears has hit the nail on the head regarding spiralling costs. Often the organiser is tone deaf about other hens' budgets.

I think hens who have accepted an invitation need to be upfront and say something along the lines of "this is my budget, and if there are extra expenses I'm out"

TheFormidableMrsC · 08/05/2024 13:30

I don't get it either. I've been married twice, I had a lovely evening out with my girlfriends and bridesmaids the first time round. Just a fantastic meal and some drinks. Didn't bother the second time. I did one hen party down to Brighton which was fun and we stayed two nights but wasn't keen on having to wear t-shirts making it clear we were a hen party. Anything more than that is a decline. I've always declined the destination ones as it's just not possible for me.

I've read so many horror stories on here, I do wonder why people put themselves through it. It's weird.

TheFormidableMrsC · 08/05/2024 13:32

RampantIvy · 08/05/2024 07:30

@Sugarplumsandpears has hit the nail on the head regarding spiralling costs. Often the organiser is tone deaf about other hens' budgets.

I think hens who have accepted an invitation need to be upfront and say something along the lines of "this is my budget, and if there are extra expenses I'm out"

That's exactly my issue. As a lone parent/carer, I can't just pop off to Barcelona for a long weekend costing a grand. Yet people seem genuinely perplexed when you say that. I would not dream of asking anybody to do that. It's so selfish. Also spa days. Horrors. No thank you.

BritishBeatleMania · 08/05/2024 13:33

You are being unreasonable as I was expecting a conversation about backyard chickens.

VestPantsandSocks · 08/05/2024 13:37

What is a Hen Party actually celebrating?!

SantaBarbaraMonica · 08/05/2024 14:10

VestPantsandSocks · 08/05/2024 13:37

What is a Hen Party actually celebrating?!

I’d say it’s celebrating female friendships and freedom! But it’s wrapped up as a part of a wedding thing for a bride to make it easier to organise and get people to join.

VestPantsandSocks · 08/05/2024 14:26

SantaBarbaraMonica · 08/05/2024 14:10

I’d say it’s celebrating female friendships and freedom! But it’s wrapped up as a part of a wedding thing for a bride to make it easier to organise and get people to join.

Isn't the wedding the real party?!

Cnidarian · 08/05/2024 14:31

Each to their own they're not compulsory! I don't see all my friends much and have friends from different walks of life. My hen was one of the best weekends of my life to have all those people I love together and we had a blast. I love going to other people's too, it isn't a burden to me.

Sugarplumsandpears · 08/05/2024 17:12

Brefugee · 08/05/2024 07:21

I agree, it's not always that simple to just say no to going to a friend's hen do. My 'friend' stopped speaking to me five years ago ( we'd been friends for 30 years) because I decided to politely back out of attending her Hen do.

i would point out to the "friend" that isn't how friendships work and not to let the door hit her arse on the way out. Seriously: if you are afraid to say no to your friends you need an intervention. And if you are a friendzilla who can't take a polite "no" for an answer you need to sit down and think about your life.

I've just let her get on with it, and I've realised that losing a so called friend like her is no loss.

AmiablePedant · 08/05/2024 19:13

IsoldeWagner · 07/05/2024 07:45

Because people nowadays have much more of a disposable income.
When me and my friends got married, it was a meal out or going to a wine bar. No-one had the money for an extra holiday.
People now can afford holidays, events and spas etc
Plus: social media, of course.

Except that not all people have the same amount of money. And a lot of the multi-day, let's travel abroad and rent a villa (or whatever) parties seem to be planned without careful forethought as to how many of the people invited can actually afford to go!

FeetLikeFlippers · 08/05/2024 19:22

CypressSunflower · 07/05/2024 07:50

Ha ha ha. I’m just thinking of getting some hens so came on to see if there was a craze for keeping hens at the moment. I’m very tired today 😂

I hope this quote from one of the OP’s replies was helpful: “At no point did I say my hen was suited to everyone. I did say “I realise my hen may seem like hell on earth for others”. “ 🤣🤣

Matildalamp · 08/05/2024 19:39

I really wanted this to be about chickens!

JustMeAndTheFish · 08/05/2024 19:41

I work on a farm. I thought we were talking about Rhode Island Reds….

Scarfitwere · 08/05/2024 19:48

I think some of these people who invite people they barely know on their hen parties do it to bring the cost down for everyone else. I can't imagine accepting if I was inviting by someone I didn't know well or like much.

MarvellousMonsters · 08/05/2024 20:15

Thought this was going to be about pet chickens, super disappointed.

Chazzasaurus · 08/05/2024 21:09

I got married 6 years ago at 28 years old. I just went into London (30 minutes on the train) and had a meal and cocktails and went to a private karaoke booth and had the time of my life.
My wedding was also an old school ceremony in a hall then off to a local social club for a BBQ lunch then buffet and disco in the evening, like weddings used to be! Would t have done it any other way and spent probably around 15k less than what a lot of people do while still having 130 guests! I spent the £15k that I saved on a house deposit!

Abbyant · 08/05/2024 21:19

I’ve got two hen dos coming up one bride has a two day itinerary planned including fancy dress and axe throwing and wanted everyone to chip in for accommodation ( I’ve refused because I live in the city and won’t be staying in the accommodation) the other bride wants a nice meal and to try a new cocktail bar.

DoodleDoo37 · 08/05/2024 21:22

IsoldeWagner · 07/05/2024 07:45

Because people nowadays have much more of a disposable income.
When me and my friends got married, it was a meal out or going to a wine bar. No-one had the money for an extra holiday.
People now can afford holidays, events and spas etc
Plus: social media, of course.

Really? I'm hearing quite the opposite - every single day from all forms of media - so many people struggling and scrimping because of the cost of living right now and also increased mortgage rates and yes I think asking friends to fork out on a hen party which is overseas and then on to a wedding which could also involve a hotel overnight stay - new clothes and wedding gift is really cheeky these days......

OldPerson · 08/05/2024 21:25

Um, let me understand this. You decided on and planned the exact hen party you wanted and loved it.

I'm honestly chuckling.

You're now being mealy mouthed about people who choose something different and invite idiot friends on, because you've decided it costs too much?

Personally I think you're all idiots.

But you're all living your lives as you choose, which is a good thing.

I chose not to have a hen party, because both your idea and spending hundreds on getting drunk abroad with stupidly drunk people is not my idea of fun. I also mostly avoid Christmas parties for the same reasons.

But again each to their own.

9 family members travelled with us when got married abroad. They stayed for a week. We stayed for two. We paid for three of them. Paid half for two more. A safari country they'd never, ever go to, unless they came for this event. We got married. Job done. Lovely memories that have now lasted decades.

And not once have I ever regretted not having a drunken hen night.