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Don’t understand why Hens are such a big thing?

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Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 07:25

Just reading yet another Hen drama on here.

I just don’t understand why Hen parties are now such a big deal! AIBU?

I’ve a friend who is my age but whose Husband is ten years her junior. Subsequently, her Husband’s friends (he has a group he is still mates with from school, who now all live miles and miles apart but by the sounds of it, see each other 5/6 times a year) are all starting to settle down. My friend has been invited on 3 big Hen parties (1 abroad for 5 days and 2 x 3 nights away in this country) since 2022. My friend is equally perplexed as to why she gets invited to these things. She did go to the first as her sister is mates with the bride and was there also. But she said it costs her about £400 for transport, accommodation, fancy dress and activities including one meal and booze for the house (my friend doesn’t drink).

Admittedly, I’ve been married 16 years. So maybe I’m old fashioned. But I can’t see in what scenario I’d expect friends and family to fork out hundreds of pounds to help “see me off”.

I mean, if I had a group of friends who holidayed/partied together ordinarily, I can see why that might well be great. But to then add partners
of the best man/others from the groom’s side, family and other friends, why should I think that would work and why on earth should these people all go to great expense for me?

For my hen, I had a night out that started as a couple of drinks at my parent’s house, a train into the town where we met others who didn’t want to/seemed silly travel to my parent’s in advance, a meal at a buffet type place and then onto a couple of pubs and club for those who wanted to. I really did have the best time. Everyone paid for themselves. Although I did get few bottles of wine put on the table and my mum bought these pin badges that said “Duffduff’s hen” with the date. Oh, and everyone wore black except me - I was told to wear a white top. My b/f and sister arranged it all but when I say arranged it, they literally booked the table in the restaurant once I knew who could attend and planned which pubs to go to (they obviously also got in touch with everyone to say wear black and told me to wear a white top but this is something they instigated and I didn’t know about until a week before).

I realise my hen may seem like hell on earth for others if they don’t like meals out/clubs, but my point is it doesn’t always have to involve nightmare logistics, a presents for the bride, nights away and warring bridal parties which surely then can have a knock on effect/added stress for the actual wedding!

Why do so many Hen parties seem so big now? Do the brides really need to feel celebrated to this extent/friends and family feel the need to show their love for the bride by throwing money around? Or have norms moved on so much in this last decade and a half and I’ve lost touch? ( I should add, my friend who I mentioned up thread, got married in 2019, and had an afternoon tea in a hall surrounded by about 20 guests and then went drinking with her sister and the few that wanted to in the evening.)

I realise upon writing this I may sound grumpy and old but I’m a few years off 40 and love a good night out!

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Ladymeade · 08/05/2024 21:35

Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 07:25

Just reading yet another Hen drama on here.

I just don’t understand why Hen parties are now such a big deal! AIBU?

I’ve a friend who is my age but whose Husband is ten years her junior. Subsequently, her Husband’s friends (he has a group he is still mates with from school, who now all live miles and miles apart but by the sounds of it, see each other 5/6 times a year) are all starting to settle down. My friend has been invited on 3 big Hen parties (1 abroad for 5 days and 2 x 3 nights away in this country) since 2022. My friend is equally perplexed as to why she gets invited to these things. She did go to the first as her sister is mates with the bride and was there also. But she said it costs her about £400 for transport, accommodation, fancy dress and activities including one meal and booze for the house (my friend doesn’t drink).

Admittedly, I’ve been married 16 years. So maybe I’m old fashioned. But I can’t see in what scenario I’d expect friends and family to fork out hundreds of pounds to help “see me off”.

I mean, if I had a group of friends who holidayed/partied together ordinarily, I can see why that might well be great. But to then add partners
of the best man/others from the groom’s side, family and other friends, why should I think that would work and why on earth should these people all go to great expense for me?

For my hen, I had a night out that started as a couple of drinks at my parent’s house, a train into the town where we met others who didn’t want to/seemed silly travel to my parent’s in advance, a meal at a buffet type place and then onto a couple of pubs and club for those who wanted to. I really did have the best time. Everyone paid for themselves. Although I did get few bottles of wine put on the table and my mum bought these pin badges that said “Duffduff’s hen” with the date. Oh, and everyone wore black except me - I was told to wear a white top. My b/f and sister arranged it all but when I say arranged it, they literally booked the table in the restaurant once I knew who could attend and planned which pubs to go to (they obviously also got in touch with everyone to say wear black and told me to wear a white top but this is something they instigated and I didn’t know about until a week before).

I realise my hen may seem like hell on earth for others if they don’t like meals out/clubs, but my point is it doesn’t always have to involve nightmare logistics, a presents for the bride, nights away and warring bridal parties which surely then can have a knock on effect/added stress for the actual wedding!

Why do so many Hen parties seem so big now? Do the brides really need to feel celebrated to this extent/friends and family feel the need to show their love for the bride by throwing money around? Or have norms moved on so much in this last decade and a half and I’ve lost touch? ( I should add, my friend who I mentioned up thread, got married in 2019, and had an afternoon tea in a hall surrounded by about 20 guests and then went drinking with her sister and the few that wanted to in the evening.)

I realise upon writing this I may sound grumpy and old but I’m a few years off 40 and love a good night out!

This 100%

Teenagehorrorbag · 08/05/2024 22:10

IsoldeWagner · 07/05/2024 07:45

Because people nowadays have much more of a disposable income.
When me and my friends got married, it was a meal out or going to a wine bar. No-one had the money for an extra holiday.
People now can afford holidays, events and spas etc
Plus: social media, of course.

Surely this can't be right? Everyone goes on these days about the cost of living, house prices etc? I got married 20 years ago and would imagine we were all financially much better off back then! I'd think money is much tighter these days for a lot of people?

But yes - social media pressures may be a thing!

In the early noughties I had a fab weekend away with close friends who paid for a hotel overnight and a day at the races, but it wasn't 5 days in Spain! But we didn't have anywhere to post photos or worry about if my hen do had been as smart as someone else's......🙄!

And we had a fantastic time.....😁!

Doone22 · 08/05/2024 22:19

I don't get it either, it's a very archaic tradition linked to when people got married at a younger age from parents house before having any sex.
I eloped for 1st wedding and 2nd was in my 50s. Didn't have hen night for either. Never been on one like that either just a sedated meal out for my sister's

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 08/05/2024 22:39

I agree with you it is gone out of control and costs so much. Instagram has a lot to answer for and those that are seeking attention.
I remember my sister's many a moon ago and we all just went out for drinks in local town and no big deal and it was great fun. Now hen's invite people not even invited to the wedding to build up numbers.
I know someone who was abroad for hers and it cost a few hundred euro and one woman could not go as has a small child and too expensive for her and she was told to put away 30/40 euro a week to save for it. She is on her own so does not have the luxury of saving for a hen when there are so many other things that take priority.
Also knew another hen and I went to it in a city and was drinks/dancing etc and was ok but was shocked when bride to be had her legs wrapped around the bald old man stripper. Then she also had another hen in another town and they all went off on a bus, hotel to pay for also. I did not go as could not see the point in 2 hen nights.
Now it is abroad for a few days and just seems so self indulgent but I guess back in the day if we had the cash we did things now whether they can afford to or not they stick on a credit card and all trying to outdo each other. Never been a fan of hen do's to be honest. Find them tacky. But each to their own.

AnnieSnap · 08/05/2024 23:13

BigBadBarri · 07/05/2024 07:36

theres a concept which seems really weird on mumsnet but it’s called “having friends and celebrating stuff”. There is another concept which centres around saying no to stuff you don’t want to go to.

big hens and small hens are fine, go to what you want or decline what you don’t but this reverse snobbery of “I celebrated with my mum only and we drank tap water and dry crusts of bread and everyone said it was the best hen we’d ever been to” is really boring

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It’s not that simple though is it? If a friend doesn’t want to let her friend down by declining to attend an expensive hen party, but can’t really afford to go, she’s in a really difficult position, especially if she’s agreed to be a bridesmaid. Hen parties that are bloody miles away, or even abroad and demanding on friends in all kinds of ways, making it really awkward for many people. Seems quite selfish not to consider that when the bride proclaims that is what it will be!

Mamanyt · 08/05/2024 23:38

I'm with you. Of course, I'm 71 years old, and (I can't believe this is coming out of my mouth off of my fingertips) back in my day, there just weren't any "hen dos," just a bridal shower (NO men invited, it was specifically for brides and their friends). Now, there was food, and drinks, and presents, and half the group generally got tipsy, and lots of laughter and silly games, so it was definitely a party for "the girls." It was the "hen do" of that time, inexpensive (relatively), but fun.

Toooldtopretend · 09/05/2024 07:16

Totally agree - I would hate all the stress & pressure and feel responsible for everyone having a good time. I arranged my wedding last minute when covid restrictions were still in place. Meant my hen do could only be me plus friends round a picnic table outside at the pub. Worked for me!

Mere1 · 09/05/2024 07:56

How disappointing. From the title, I imagined poultry keeping was very popular. That would have been interesting-cocks crowing and neighbours complaining. Not eggs again at breakfast time… etc.

anon666 · 09/05/2024 08:51

Gosh you're right. I politely excuse myself unless I really have to go - ie immediate family.

I think it's just become a thing.

My hen do ended up not happening when everyone dropped out. I did live a distance from everyone and one by one they cried off. My maid of honour was my little sister who was only 18, and couldn't organise it. My other bridesmaid, my best friend, dropped out also.

But once I was past my main drinking and clubbing years (age 25?) I just couldn't bear the drinking marathons. It was either get wasted yourself amd be ill/humiliated, or stay sober and watch everyone else get wasted and look after the casualties.

I did go to a very well organised UK one recently, because it would have been rude not to (new SIL who is lovely). I went to bed as early as I could. 🫣

It makes me wonder why I'm always so skint that I can't afford it, despite having a professional job. How much is everyone else earning?

RampantIvy · 09/05/2024 08:53

That must have been disappointing @anon666 Sad

PTSDBarbiegirl · 09/05/2024 08:59

Oh good fucking god, no! I cannot be arsed with this performative stuff. I am pretty anti social anyway and unless it was one of my DC I wouldn't be going anywhere, never mind on a plane, to a cabin etc. If people want to and can afford all the faff then great for them but in this climate I just want to pay off remaining mortgage and retire.

Realtalking · 09/05/2024 09:25

Going against the grain here but I think big/weekend hen do’s are great! Love an opportunity to get together with a bunch of girls and celebrate the bride to be. As we get older those opportunities are few and far between.

if you can’t afford it or it’s not your thing just say no.

GoldEagle · 09/05/2024 15:38

I think the brides get carried away with whole drama of wedding planning and go berserk for the hen do without thinking about whether it's financial feasible for their friends.

Jeannie88 · 09/05/2024 17:28

It's representative of all celebrations now it seems, I mean gender reveal, baby showers, childrens' birthdays, primary school proms... I may sound cynical but since SM there has been a bigger emphasis on showing photos of how much you've celebrated? Lots of media hype, advertisement, sweet 16 type programmes, all put a lot of presssure on people to conform to this.

therevm · 09/05/2024 21:32

Best one I've been to - my niece during lockdown. Her friend arranged for things to be sent to her home, we all joined in zoom and I could leave when I wanted!

Switcher · 09/05/2024 21:34

Yeah it's basically a load of bollocks.

Gogogowall · 09/05/2024 22:04

therevm · 09/05/2024 21:32

Best one I've been to - my niece during lockdown. Her friend arranged for things to be sent to her home, we all joined in zoom and I could leave when I wanted!

That just shows how different we all are because I couldn’t think of anything worse then a meeting over zoom!

NoThanksymm · 10/05/2024 02:53

If you don’t want it then don’t go!

id expect maybe bridal party to put in the effort, but no one else. And only if it’s a small party.

but it is fun to get friends together and go on a vacation!

just get other accommodations nearby, don’t need the 24/7 of it. Or the cost splitting drama.

Letsnotupsettheapplcart · 10/05/2024 16:05

BigBadBarri · 07/05/2024 07:36

theres a concept which seems really weird on mumsnet but it’s called “having friends and celebrating stuff”. There is another concept which centres around saying no to stuff you don’t want to go to.

big hens and small hens are fine, go to what you want or decline what you don’t but this reverse snobbery of “I celebrated with my mum only and we drank tap water and dry crusts of bread and everyone said it was the best hen we’d ever been to” is really boring

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This. Each to their own!

T1Dmama · 10/05/2024 19:10

Just a competition now.. each hen trying to out do the one before

EC22 · 10/05/2024 20:25

I’ve been married same length of time as you. I had an abroad hen so with my closest friends and a home hen with everyone. So it’s not a new phenomenon, a long weekend abroad was much more affordable then though so not sure with COL I’d do it now.

5128gap · 10/05/2024 20:55

I think a lot of women just enjoy going away for a few days in a group of other women for fun and a laugh and someone's hen is a good excuse. Brides who have this sort of do often have a core group of like minded friends who want and expect it and will do the same themselves or who already have, so i dont see it as about brides expecting fuss or celebration of them, just that they and their mates will enjoy the holiday together.
If you're not part of the like minded mates group, but end up on the hen guest list because you're related to the bride, or know her through your partner, you probably are going to see it as 'unnecessary' because you wouldn't do it. But that doesn't mean the bride is wrong, and you can always decline.

Wewalkthewalk · 12/05/2024 11:16

When I was soon to be married, most of our friends were still impoverished students, and I didn’t want anyone to worry about money. We had a gorgeous day punting in Cambridge (which is where we all lived) with prosecco picnic, then dinner at a nice local restaurant, then out for drinks and a little dance. It was perfect 😊

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