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Don’t understand why Hens are such a big thing?

223 replies

Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 07:25

Just reading yet another Hen drama on here.

I just don’t understand why Hen parties are now such a big deal! AIBU?

I’ve a friend who is my age but whose Husband is ten years her junior. Subsequently, her Husband’s friends (he has a group he is still mates with from school, who now all live miles and miles apart but by the sounds of it, see each other 5/6 times a year) are all starting to settle down. My friend has been invited on 3 big Hen parties (1 abroad for 5 days and 2 x 3 nights away in this country) since 2022. My friend is equally perplexed as to why she gets invited to these things. She did go to the first as her sister is mates with the bride and was there also. But she said it costs her about £400 for transport, accommodation, fancy dress and activities including one meal and booze for the house (my friend doesn’t drink).

Admittedly, I’ve been married 16 years. So maybe I’m old fashioned. But I can’t see in what scenario I’d expect friends and family to fork out hundreds of pounds to help “see me off”.

I mean, if I had a group of friends who holidayed/partied together ordinarily, I can see why that might well be great. But to then add partners
of the best man/others from the groom’s side, family and other friends, why should I think that would work and why on earth should these people all go to great expense for me?

For my hen, I had a night out that started as a couple of drinks at my parent’s house, a train into the town where we met others who didn’t want to/seemed silly travel to my parent’s in advance, a meal at a buffet type place and then onto a couple of pubs and club for those who wanted to. I really did have the best time. Everyone paid for themselves. Although I did get few bottles of wine put on the table and my mum bought these pin badges that said “Duffduff’s hen” with the date. Oh, and everyone wore black except me - I was told to wear a white top. My b/f and sister arranged it all but when I say arranged it, they literally booked the table in the restaurant once I knew who could attend and planned which pubs to go to (they obviously also got in touch with everyone to say wear black and told me to wear a white top but this is something they instigated and I didn’t know about until a week before).

I realise my hen may seem like hell on earth for others if they don’t like meals out/clubs, but my point is it doesn’t always have to involve nightmare logistics, a presents for the bride, nights away and warring bridal parties which surely then can have a knock on effect/added stress for the actual wedding!

Why do so many Hen parties seem so big now? Do the brides really need to feel celebrated to this extent/friends and family feel the need to show their love for the bride by throwing money around? Or have norms moved on so much in this last decade and a half and I’ve lost touch? ( I should add, my friend who I mentioned up thread, got married in 2019, and had an afternoon tea in a hall surrounded by about 20 guests and then went drinking with her sister and the few that wanted to in the evening.)

I realise upon writing this I may sound grumpy and old but I’m a few years off 40 and love a good night out!

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Isitisit · 07/05/2024 07:56

Only one of my good friends lives within an hour of me.

All the hen dos I have been to have been weekends but each time the MOH has checked peoples budgets and preferences and planned activities accordingly. (My MOH did a google forms where people could put in budget, preferences, access requirements etc because she’s awesome!) people tend to prefer a weekend if they need to travel but there is always at least one who can’t make it due to finances.

From what I have seen, usually the hen is completely fine with this but often there is one person who is that friend you made when younger who is actually a nightmare but they’ve been in your life so long it’s hard to see it who likes to cause a fuss as it’s an event that’s not about them.

DanielGault · 07/05/2024 07:56

Because they used to be great craic altogether! This endless planning the shite out of them has destroyed them. And ridiculous activities. A few drinks with your close friends where they make much of you in advance of the wedding is lovely (without the drama of course).

BigBadBarri · 07/05/2024 07:56

Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 07:54

As someone else pointed out, the expense, the stress…

And why they have to be so very big!

But I can see we won’t agree on this!

But you’ve said yourself - you’ve never been put in a position where you’ve been pressured to attend a hen do you don’t want to. So it’s not an issue really is it?

RampantIvy · 07/05/2024 07:58

Pyri · 07/05/2024 07:53

Why do these invitations need to die a death? Do you not think some people might actually enjoy them?

Maybe not die a death then, but the guilt tripping and expectations by the organiser making those who can't afford to go feel bad about it needs to stop. Plus all the expensive (and often unnecessary) add ons that make the cost spiral out of control.

PrincessHoneysuckle · 07/05/2024 07:59

I think is so they can impress on Instagram

Commonhousewitch · 07/05/2024 08:00

I don't think its an age thing. I'm a fair bit older than you and I've been to bigish hen do's- weekends doing different things- spa etc - they were fun. I like the fact you get to meet different people- eg older members of the family etc and they have activities which suit different people- including non drinkers etc

TinkerTiger · 07/05/2024 08:03

Left · 07/05/2024 07:39

Was getting ready to be defensive as I thought this would be about chickens 🤣🤣

Same, was wondering what 'farm life' influencers were beefing with each other

Pyri · 07/05/2024 08:04

RampantIvy · 07/05/2024 07:58

Maybe not die a death then, but the guilt tripping and expectations by the organiser making those who can't afford to go feel bad about it needs to stop. Plus all the expensive (and often unnecessary) add ons that make the cost spiral out of control.

Have you personally been guilt tripped or pressured to attend a hen you didn’t want to?

Because all I see from these threads is situations that people are judging others for who have never actually been in that situation themselves

Funnywonder · 07/05/2024 08:06

go to what you want or decline what you don’t

While I agree with this in principle, I always think real life is a bit more complex than a simple 'yes' or 'no'. It's human and reasonable to want to fit in with our social group and to be concerned about hurting and upsetting others. I do say no to loads of things because I find most social situations very hard, but I don't do it lightly and there's a part of me having the conversation back and forth in my brain about the rights and wrongs etc. I just don't post on Mumsnet about it because my antisocial side usually wins out anyway.

Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 08:08

Revelatio · 07/05/2024 07:53

I’ve been to ones like yours and ones abroad. The ones abroad were with a friendship group where we regularly have a weekend away together. All have been fun.

Do people really have friends who they feel scared to say no to? In my friendship groups, there is never any pressure to do anything you don’t want to do or can afford.

And I think when there is a group of friends like yours, going away would be like any other holiday together with the added lovely celebration. That sounds great.

But it’s the when there is a holiday with so many others involved that it sounds like it can be recipe for disaster (as we see on here sometimes).

My cousin has a group of friends who’ve been mates since teens. They regularly holiday together and my cousin’s Hen party was just them going to Ibiza. I chatted to her at her fitting (I’m a part time seamstress and she wanted me there as extra eyes) and it sounded like they all had a great time. So I know those holidays can work out well.

But sadly, as we see on here saying no can sometimes be made hard.

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Funnywonder · 07/05/2024 08:09

Because all I see from these threads is situations that people are judging others for who have never actually been in that situation themselves

Are we only allowed to comment on things we have personal experience of? That's me out of most discussions then!

Pyri · 07/05/2024 08:11

Funnywonder · 07/05/2024 08:09

Because all I see from these threads is situations that people are judging others for who have never actually been in that situation themselves

Are we only allowed to comment on things we have personal experience of? That's me out of most discussions then!

Well yeah, I think if you’re saying something should “die a death” then it should be something you’ve got personal experience of, otherwise you’re just trying to ruin it for the people that do actually enjoy it?

ssd · 07/05/2024 08:11

Its all about social media and showing off.

Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 08:11

BigBadBarri · 07/05/2024 07:56

But you’ve said yourself - you’ve never been put in a position where you’ve been pressured to attend a hen do you don’t want to. So it’s not an issue really is it?

Not an issue for me directly, no. But I’m asking what the fuss is about as you can well see from my OP.

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Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 08:12

ssd · 07/05/2024 08:11

Its all about social media and showing off.

I hadn’t thought about that being an issue, but I suppose it could have a bearing.

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JasmineTea11 · 07/05/2024 08:13

Its performative and grabby. Grabby of peoples time and money, stemming from a self obsessed social media culture. Yes invitees can decline, but obviously there's social pressure if its your group.
And yes they are usually naff too, so YNBU.

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 07/05/2024 08:16

I thought this was going to be about keeping chickens.

LarkRiseSummer · 07/05/2024 08:16

StinkyWizzleteets · 07/05/2024 07:43

I while we’re moaning, I hate that it’s been shortened to Hens rather than hen do or hen party. Leave the chickens out of this, they’re just having a clucking great time.

Yes, I clicked on this thread thinking it was about a new craze of keeping chickens that I hadn't heard about 😄.

My own 'hen do' was 37 years ago and we just went for a meal and drinks in town, which was pretty standard in the 80s. The time and expense these things incur now is mind boggling.

Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 08:20

Pyri · 07/05/2024 08:04

Have you personally been guilt tripped or pressured to attend a hen you didn’t want to?

Because all I see from these threads is situations that people are judging others for who have never actually been in that situation themselves

Whilst I realise you aren’t quoting me directly, as it’s my thread I will say that for the record, I’m not judging anyone.

As I’ve said, my hen party (for which I appear to have been judged up thread) would not be for everyone. And I can see how some nights away/holidays would be great. And as has been pointed out on here by others, even those with people you don’t know can be fantastic.

But the endless organisation, money and stress seems for some (if not many), to outweigh the positives.

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skippy67 · 07/05/2024 08:24

Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 08:20

Whilst I realise you aren’t quoting me directly, as it’s my thread I will say that for the record, I’m not judging anyone.

As I’ve said, my hen party (for which I appear to have been judged up thread) would not be for everyone. And I can see how some nights away/holidays would be great. And as has been pointed out on here by others, even those with people you don’t know can be fantastic.

But the endless organisation, money and stress seems for some (if not many), to outweigh the positives.

No, not at all judging. You "just don't understand". Got it. 🙄

SillyLemonZebra · 07/05/2024 08:24

I once went to one in Newcastle. It could have been amazing but the organised fun (think dance class/ make a Beyoncé music video and other random shit) made it unbearable.

the bride to be was such an arsehole to all involved that she ended up getting married minus some of her bridesmaids who (after spending £100s on named dressing gowns and other personalised stuff) didn’t attend the wedding and never spoke to her again.

It was her one moment to shine. She wasn’t very popular otherwise. The weekend in Newcastle reminded us all why 😂.

C1N1C · 07/05/2024 08:25

Some people revel in/demand being the centre of attention.

A relationship and a wedding are about a couple... even having a baby. There's no reason why all of these things can't be closed affairs. Personally I get hen parties more than weddings - have a fun party before you get married! The big wedding idea for me is 'spoiled brat' mentality. Putting yourself into debt for one day that is largely just showing off to everyone, to me, is crazy!

So even though I personally don't get hen parties either (introvert); have a party, be the centre of attention, go nuts... have a registry wedding a few days later and have £20k towards the start of a life.

LakieLady · 07/05/2024 08:26

There's disappointing.

I thought the thread was going to be about the pleasures and pitfalls of keeping poultry.

CatherinedeBourgh · 07/05/2024 08:27

LakieLady · 07/05/2024 08:26

There's disappointing.

I thought the thread was going to be about the pleasures and pitfalls of keeping poultry.

Me too! Was coming on to defend our fluffy noisy residents.

SillyLemonZebra · 07/05/2024 08:27

DanielGault · 07/05/2024 07:56

Because they used to be great craic altogether! This endless planning the shite out of them has destroyed them. And ridiculous activities. A few drinks with your close friends where they make much of you in advance of the wedding is lovely (without the drama of course).

I read this in an Irish accent 😍. “Where they make much of you” what a lovely way to put it ♥️

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