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Don’t understand why Hens are such a big thing?

223 replies

Endersduffduff · 07/05/2024 07:25

Just reading yet another Hen drama on here.

I just don’t understand why Hen parties are now such a big deal! AIBU?

I’ve a friend who is my age but whose Husband is ten years her junior. Subsequently, her Husband’s friends (he has a group he is still mates with from school, who now all live miles and miles apart but by the sounds of it, see each other 5/6 times a year) are all starting to settle down. My friend has been invited on 3 big Hen parties (1 abroad for 5 days and 2 x 3 nights away in this country) since 2022. My friend is equally perplexed as to why she gets invited to these things. She did go to the first as her sister is mates with the bride and was there also. But she said it costs her about £400 for transport, accommodation, fancy dress and activities including one meal and booze for the house (my friend doesn’t drink).

Admittedly, I’ve been married 16 years. So maybe I’m old fashioned. But I can’t see in what scenario I’d expect friends and family to fork out hundreds of pounds to help “see me off”.

I mean, if I had a group of friends who holidayed/partied together ordinarily, I can see why that might well be great. But to then add partners
of the best man/others from the groom’s side, family and other friends, why should I think that would work and why on earth should these people all go to great expense for me?

For my hen, I had a night out that started as a couple of drinks at my parent’s house, a train into the town where we met others who didn’t want to/seemed silly travel to my parent’s in advance, a meal at a buffet type place and then onto a couple of pubs and club for those who wanted to. I really did have the best time. Everyone paid for themselves. Although I did get few bottles of wine put on the table and my mum bought these pin badges that said “Duffduff’s hen” with the date. Oh, and everyone wore black except me - I was told to wear a white top. My b/f and sister arranged it all but when I say arranged it, they literally booked the table in the restaurant once I knew who could attend and planned which pubs to go to (they obviously also got in touch with everyone to say wear black and told me to wear a white top but this is something they instigated and I didn’t know about until a week before).

I realise my hen may seem like hell on earth for others if they don’t like meals out/clubs, but my point is it doesn’t always have to involve nightmare logistics, a presents for the bride, nights away and warring bridal parties which surely then can have a knock on effect/added stress for the actual wedding!

Why do so many Hen parties seem so big now? Do the brides really need to feel celebrated to this extent/friends and family feel the need to show their love for the bride by throwing money around? Or have norms moved on so much in this last decade and a half and I’ve lost touch? ( I should add, my friend who I mentioned up thread, got married in 2019, and had an afternoon tea in a hall surrounded by about 20 guests and then went drinking with her sister and the few that wanted to in the evening.)

I realise upon writing this I may sound grumpy and old but I’m a few years off 40 and love a good night out!

OP posts:
HarpieDuJour · 07/05/2024 08:28

Left · 07/05/2024 07:39

Was getting ready to be defensive as I thought this would be about chickens 🤣🤣

Me too!

DanielGault · 07/05/2024 08:29

SillyLemonZebra · 07/05/2024 08:27

I read this in an Irish accent 😍. “Where they make much of you” what a lovely way to put it ♥️

You're bang on, I'm Irish with the accent to prove it. Well done 😊

Zanatdy · 07/05/2024 08:29

the hen abroad I went to was the best weekend I’ve ever had, such a laugh with some of my oldest friends. I don’t see the big deal. Go if it’s a good friend and you can afford it, or don’t go

Brefugee · 07/05/2024 08:30

Part of the problem is that people have a strange inability to say "no, i won't be attending" to the Hen-do invitation, maybe people-pleasers, maybe embarassed to say "too expensive, maybe ... who knows, afraid of the social ostracism that is The Evening Only Wedding Invitation.

I am also baffled by how one of the BM (or all of them) gets ordered to organise it, get's specific requests from the bridezilla and everyone goes along with it.

I know my whole wedding (40 years ago) was very relaxed and a bit different, but my hen dos (what can i say? we army women liked a party) were just "who's up for a drink up on Friday, first round on me?" and that was it. (Likewise the stag do - haha, he only had one)

Late Stage Capitalism has a LOT to answer for.

Neveralonewithaclone · 07/05/2024 08:31

I think a hen do should be going to the nearest town and having a raucous drunken laugh whilst wearing badges and fake veils. Then having kebab and chips.

DanielGault · 07/05/2024 08:32

Neveralonewithaclone · 07/05/2024 08:31

I think a hen do should be going to the nearest town and having a raucous drunken laugh whilst wearing badges and fake veils. Then having kebab and chips.

Yes!

grinandslothit · 07/05/2024 08:33

Married twice and never had one and I have never been to it just seems a bit pointless to me

DanielGault · 07/05/2024 08:33

DanielGault · 07/05/2024 08:32

Yes!

And penis straws 😳

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 07/05/2024 08:34

I strongly believe that any Hen Do should be designed with 'the least well off but would not want them to be left out person' in mind.

Yes I agree, if this yardstick was used more often it would make life a lot easier for many.

Op you will probably get a pasting on here, some will be from defensive 10 day in Ibiza hens or just because folk are grumpy and hungover after the BH weekend, but I agree somewhat.

Fine if everyone loves the idea and has the money to go. Not fine if people are pressured to spend more/use more holiday time than they can afford.

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 07/05/2024 08:37

But you’ve said yourself - you’ve never been put in a position where you’ve been pressured to attend a hen do you don’t want to. So it’s not an issue really is it?

@BigBadBarri it is possible to discuss and explore an issue that you have not been personally part of. It's called being a curious human. On a discussion forum.

Neveralonewithaclone · 07/05/2024 08:37

DanielGault · 07/05/2024 08:33

And penis straws 😳

And drinking from cocktail jugs. Obviously someone will cry and someone will puke. It has to be messy.

Begsthequestion · 07/05/2024 08:43

I would understand it if it was part of a ritual that meant a huge change in the bride's life - if getting married meant leaving the family home, or having sex for the first time ever. "Becoming a woman" in old fashioned speak.

But usually the bride already lives with her partner and has done all that stuff, so it's no longer really the rite of passage it was presumed to be. So it just feels very self absorbed imo.

Sugarplumsandpears · 07/05/2024 08:43

As others have said, I think it's largely to do with having social media nowadays. It's about showing everyone through the endless photos how popular the hen group are, and how amazing they look.

Olinguita · 07/05/2024 08:44

"Hen-flation" is definitely a thing. My mum and her friends said that hen parties used to be, at the most, a night in the local pub in her day.

The money and the mental space that hen weekends can take up these days is just crazy and at some point I just nope-d out of it all.

I'm all for a good night out, but I'm not on board with multi-day trips that involve going abroad or travelling to a different town.

I made an excuse about a family commitment to not go on a friend's hen a few years ago because it was crazy expensive and money was tight that year. If people like doing these things then fine, but I don't want to participate.

ArchesOfsunflowers · 07/05/2024 08:44

I didn’t do it… but going back if I had the cash and my friends did then why not? Fun excuse?

Evenstar · 07/05/2024 08:44

@AuntieMarys 60 this year and also married twice and didn’t have one myself and have never been on one for anyone else. I have lots of friends and a large family and don’t even know of anyone else who had one and I have been to lots of weddings.

Sugarplumsandpears · 07/05/2024 08:47

Oh, and the better the activities and more 'classy' the location, the photos tell everyone that the group has the ability to afford to splash out. That's the impression people like to give too.

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 07/05/2024 08:49

Neveralonewithaclone · 07/05/2024 08:31

I think a hen do should be going to the nearest town and having a raucous drunken laugh whilst wearing badges and fake veils. Then having kebab and chips.

Now I wonder if this is where social media has a big part to play.

80s/90s hens were like this. But no SM. So if you got messy, hideously drunk, flashed your boobs, cried, puked whatever it was just your mates that knew. Ladette big drinking culture and all that.
Nowadays, there is a high chance you'd be filmed and put on the Internet for all to see and mock. Horrible.

So maybe more hens started thinking about classier Do's to avoid the "filmed in a club" scenario - spa day, weekend away in a big hired house where you have privacy, why not a weekend in Europe where no one knows us?
And then the photos look amazing for SM and someone else sees them and thinks I'll do that too! And on we go ...

Pickingmyselfup · 07/05/2024 08:51

There were 7 of us at mine and we went away for a night, afternoon tea, dinner and drinks. It wasn't local to any of us but we all lived in different places so it would have been impossible to have it local to the majority.

I didn't organise it, my MOH did and whilst it cost more than £5 she tried to keep the costs as low as possible and all but one invited attended.

The hens I've been to have been similar, either one or two night options, costs as low as possible, organised by the MOH, something they think the bride will like.

Not everything is about social media, some people just enjoy celebrating with friends and family.

Brefugee · 07/05/2024 08:52

Neveralonewithaclone · 07/05/2024 08:31

I think a hen do should be going to the nearest town and having a raucous drunken laugh whilst wearing badges and fake veils. Then having kebab and chips.

I don't think we need to be prescriptive. I think a party with your friends pre-marriage (because, let's face it, not so many of us continue to see our friends as much post marriage, kids etc) is great.

But everyone should be ready to say (and accept) "sorry, i won't be attending, have fun". Nobody needs to give a reason for not attending, unless you think that your "it's too expensive" will be added to a chorus of same and the bride may re-think. Likewise if it's do-able i think it's ok to say "i can make Saturday evening onnly" type of thing. and if that fits with the planning, it's ok too.

What i think the problem is that the expectations on Bridesmaids (who are no longer there to prevent the groom kidnapping the bride pre-wedding, or to step in and marry the groom if the bride is a no-show) to organise all these things is too much to ask of a lot of friendships. Other friendships can handle it though. So i suppose anything goes.

What doesn't go, in my mind, is pressuring people. And definitely expecting people to fork out a lot of money to attend and then getting a grump on when they decline. (i'm also not on board with expecting your BMs to buy their own dresses if you are being prescriptive about what they buy, but that's a whole other side issue)

CrotchetyQuaver · 07/05/2024 08:52

I think the expensive weekend away hen party is far too expensive to ask your friends to do. My DD are late 20's and going to quite a lot of these now. My own preference back in the day was for a relaxed evening gathering at someone's house with plenty of food and wine but no one getting stupidly drunk.

happypickle · 07/05/2024 08:54

Speak for yourself, I love a hen do. They are so much fun.

Neveralonewithaclone · 07/05/2024 08:55

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 07/05/2024 08:49

Now I wonder if this is where social media has a big part to play.

80s/90s hens were like this. But no SM. So if you got messy, hideously drunk, flashed your boobs, cried, puked whatever it was just your mates that knew. Ladette big drinking culture and all that.
Nowadays, there is a high chance you'd be filmed and put on the Internet for all to see and mock. Horrible.

So maybe more hens started thinking about classier Do's to avoid the "filmed in a club" scenario - spa day, weekend away in a big hired house where you have privacy, why not a weekend in Europe where no one knows us?
And then the photos look amazing for SM and someone else sees them and thinks I'll do that too! And on we go ...

I agree, there was a feeling of nihilsm in the 80s and it was a lot of fun and the group knew that everything was a secret to the grave 😂 classy hen dos with your mother involved are just..... something else.

DanielGault · 07/05/2024 08:57

Neveralonewithaclone · 07/05/2024 08:37

And drinking from cocktail jugs. Obviously someone will cry and someone will puke. It has to be messy.

I think we managed to avoid that as it happens! It was very tame tbh. It was great 😃 (we were 'of and age')

BeaRF75 · 07/05/2024 09:00

I got married in 1990 and I don't think they existed then - thank goodness! I'm not keen on all-female events anyway, so at my advanced age, it's unlikely that I would ever go on one now.
My husband had a stag night, which was just an evening at a few pubs in the town where we live.
But, each to their own, if that's how people want to spend their money - tho it does seem to add additional stress on top of an already-fancy wedding.