For voting Tory

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I know what the Tories are and no, I don't like it. But I'm a woman, I have daughters and I come from generations of women who've been abused and dismissed because of their sex. I want better for my girls but I can't do it on my own. I need a government who will (at least give lip service to) supporting me. Am I a Tory? no. But the last thing women need is to be fighting their own government for basic recognition, so Tory it is.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/16/uk-culture-secretary-urges-ban-on-transgender-athletes-competing-in-female-only-events

YABU the Tories have to fuck off and so does Starmer.

Greens are loony in my area so I'll be voting LibDem, without much enthusiasm but something has got to change.

Not really, given they’ve had 14 years and done nothing.

I agree with you, and I think referring to you as a male apologist constitutes a personal attack.

Where did I call @Josette77 a male apologist specifically? Would love to see this post.

You are determined to report someone.

2 pages left. Posters moving to "insult and attack" phase.
Very predictable.

You're being very clever in not defining who the regular male apologist posters (in your opinion) are. Very similar to the persistent use of the term activist.

So not a personal attack then.

You implied it. As I said, you're being clever.

What has that got to do with my question?

I either personally attacked someone, or I didn't. Stop derailing.

Exactly.
Say " the post reminds me of an apologist I once saw"
What no, I didn't mean you, why say that, what gives you that impression?
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It's ridiculous

You were extremely rude to someone who has come on this thread in good faith and shared some difficult personal details.
Obviously the threat of "wrongthink" from her outweighs any vestiges of female solidarity. Ironic really considering women are universally subject to men's sexual violence.

'Personal'. Clue is in the name. Literally.

I wasn't rude.

This is my position too. I’m thinking I might spoil my ballot. I’ve said a few times I’d do it but end up voting, maybe this time I’m cynical enough to do it.

nothing will stop a man who wants to assault a woman. No violent man is going to be deterred by single sex spaces.

This is the surprising take. We know men are the more violent sex class

Use better laws to safeguard

The answer is not to ignore it and prioritise a minority of men.

If the response to it felt harsh it’s because it’s madness to lower safeguarding due to violence

Yes you were. You can tell by the fact a polite poster has been upset.

First page nails why I'm not voting for them and think they're a terrible choice for women's rights.

If you say so @AdamRyan.

It's not derailing to point out that calling people activists or male apologists is a personal attack and some posters are being wily to ensure that they can vaguely insult people who disagree with them while avoiding being reported.

And yes, you have been rude in my opinion.

YANBU OP

Yet none of you can say whom I was referring to. Except one poster, who presumed it was to them. Their own assumption made them upset.

What is really fucking rude is using the argument 'violent men will assault you anyway' in somehow defending men using women's spaces.

Yes I find it fairly grotesque tbh and sad for dd that anyone would use it as an argument

Kemi still "mulling" then.
Labour welcomed the review. A year ago. The Conservatives should have done it already. They are so transparent. "Manifesto pledge" my arse.

morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/labour-welcomes-government-review-equality-act-over-defining-sex-biological

An assumption that she wouldn't have made if you hadn't used the term regular male apologist posters to counter what she said.