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Being moaned at for not being ‘natural’. I’m so tired of not being good enough

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CandyflossStall · 08/04/2024 18:13

A few weeks ago my partner told me it feels like I’m not being natural and trying to force intimate things. I didn’t really understand where he was coming from.

This evening, I went to the gym and texted my partner “I’m sweating 🥵”. He used to react well to this but today he just said “I bet! Did you do legs?”
Jokily, I later pointed out that I was trying to be flirty. He said that he was sorry, he didn’t realise and he just took it literally. I said it was a bit worrying because if he’d texted me that, I’d be all over it because I’m attracted to him. And he used to be as well.

He then plays the whole unnatural card. He asked why I sent it, and said if I only sent it because I wanted him to find it hot, then it’s unnatural and forcing it. He’s now not speaking to me.

Since when is sending something you think someone will find hot, being unnatural?
I used to send him explicit pictures, flirty texts etc for the pure intent of him enjoying it. He certainly didn’t mind then…

Surely this is weird?

OP posts:
sweetpickle2 · 09/04/2024 07:08

“I said it was a bit worrying because if he’d texted me that, I’d be all over it because I’m attracted to him. And he used to be as well.”

This seems like a bit of an OTT response to someone who said (as many others on this thread have) that he didn’t realise it was flirty. I’m not surprised he’s a bit shirty with you.

Do you have other problems?

HappiestSleeping · 09/04/2024 07:08

StormingNorman · 08/04/2024 18:21

FML…I didn’t know 😉 was flirting. I sent this to someone at work recently. Winking at them to keep a secret.

It isn't. Flirting is when you show up naked carrying beer. At this point, most men think "if I play my cards right, I could be in here" 😂

flutterby1 · 09/04/2024 07:19

It all sounds very superficial, maybe the relationship has moved on from the lusty bit and he's matured a bit . Flirty texts are cringe

Tontostitis · 09/04/2024 07:25

The issue you here is not the text its that's he is criticising your behaviour to the point you feel awkward and unhappy. Either he's really not that into you any more and too cowardly to tell you. Or he's enjoying putting you down. I'd start to disengage if not actually finish this you deserve better.

Thepeopleversuswork · 09/04/2024 07:30

Leaving the sweating thing aside (and I wouldn’t find that sexy either but each to their own), what I find odd is his fixation on your “naturalness”.

It seems like he thinks you are trying too hard or forcing something that’s not there.

Feels like this is one of two things: either he is backing off a bit and trying to tell you to cool it. Or he’s a bit of a control freak and likes to dictate your responses. Neither scenario sounds great.

WappityWabbit · 09/04/2024 07:52

It sounds your style of communication isn’t working. Neither of you are being very clear about what you mean and you’re both then making negative assumptions.

If you think this is generally a good relationship, then you both need to invest some time learning to talk openly with other and saying exactly what you mean. Forget texting for a while and speak to each other.

Pigeon31 · 09/04/2024 07:55

Don't beat yourself up - this is just a communication issue and you can figure it out together!

I agree with @WappityWabbit - try just saying what you think/ want and not trying to be cute." -- it isn't as romantic but some guys (points at OH) find it hot when it doesn't need any effort to decode.

WitchintheDitch · 09/04/2024 07:55

In all honesty it seems that he's just not that into you anymore. Hard to hear but move on, it will only get worse

borntobequiet · 09/04/2024 08:01

Ah now I know why everyone is on their phone at the gym. Just hurry up and get off the equipment I want to use, please.

TipsyKoala · 09/04/2024 08:02

Polishedshoesalways · 09/04/2024 05:14

It sounds like you are constantly trying way too hard. Trying to be ‘sexy’ and the photos etc - you really don’t need to do all of that stuff.
Just be yourself.

I think he is finding it off putting in a relationship where he is trying to connect with you, as a person and not as a sex toy.

This. Do you balance the sexy texts with loving texts or even just boring texts to say hi? I had this once when I was very young and thought that’s what men wanted and was told by the boyfriend I was treating him like a piece of meat.

soupfiend · 09/04/2024 08:06

If a man had sent that to his partner expecting it to be a come on or flirtatious it would be unattractive and probably a bit creepy.

Perhaps he finds you too intense?

You both sound a bit odd to be honest, your approaches and then he's not talking to you now?

botleybump · 09/04/2024 08:14

I'm only a few years out of 5 years' online dating and I 'get' this.
Also a fellow gym bunny, so have definitely sent the sweaty thirst trap.
My husband and I definitely engaged in this level of flirting when we were first dating.

I do also find myself sometimes missing/trying to kickstart that again.

Realistically, I think in the early days of dating, before you're really in the relationship and have deeper foundations, both parties engage in this contrived flirting - we know what we're getting at, everything is about the nookie, and everything is sexy, because we're not yet secure enough to just not be interested/have a bad day, but also because it's all new so everything is quite literally the hottest thing ever!
As relationships grow, I think a more authentic attraction grows, or doesn't if truly incompatible.
I've had to relax in to that more 'natural' flow of things, and it's nice in its own way. My husband will now suddenly be all excited if I talk passionately about something I've learned that day, or get him a little gift while I'm out. If I'm honest, it does feel better than sending out random callouts, but it is sometimes less exciting and can miss the confidence boost of 'making' him respond.

....which is probably why plenty of people can stray in relationships, it's easy to miss that buzz if you're not focusing on the upside of the more authentic connection and attraction.

Of course, if you're not compatible beyond the passion phase, you may struggle to find that. Maybe think about the times he does respond/come on to you?

1983Louise · 09/04/2024 08:18

Perhaps he's a bit bored of you.............

WhatWouldJeevesDo · 09/04/2024 08:23

This reminds me of that most romantic of chat up lines ‘for a fat girl you don’t sweat very much’
It does sound as if he’s telling you to back off but isn’t very good at expressing himself.

Scirocco · 09/04/2024 08:26

That doesn't strike me as a particularly flirty or sexy message, so I'm not surprised he didn't pick up on it. If someone sent me a message saying they were sweaty at the gym, I'd assume they'd been exercising hard. I'd also be expecting them to have a shower before any attempts at sexy-time. Sweat just isn't that sexy for a lot of people.

I think sometimes a too-frequent rate of 'sexy' messages and photos does come across as a bit trying-too-hard, and there's more to a relationship than just sex. Maybe your partner is feeling like you only want him for one thing at the moment? That's not a nice feeling for anyone to have.

WillJeSuis · 09/04/2024 08:34

"I'm sweating" was probably not the best example as now people will over analyse that and say they would find it off-putting. The issue is of course that he has changed his behaviour.
I had a long distance boyfriend when I was younger. We used to send flirty, suggestive messages and explicit pictures. I sent a picture one time and he just said "nice" and changed the subject. I got a bit of a sick feeling from that as it was very different from his usual response. I think if I'd posted on here at the time people would have said "but he said it was nice, what's the issue?" He broke up with me very shortly afterwards.

WhimsicalGubbins76 · 09/04/2024 08:36

I wouldn’t find a sweaty text sexy either 🤣 if my husband sent that I’d tell him to shower before coming home.
How long have you guys been together? The constant state of arousal does wane in a normal relationship. My husband and I used to send pictures to each other too-but to be honest, if he did it now I’d assume he’d found something unusual and was sending it to me for medical reasons 🤣

butterpuffed · 09/04/2024 08:43

What's next?
'I'm typing', 'I'm washing-up', 'I'm shopping', 'I'm eating carrots'.

I'm sure most men would be gagging for it if they received a message like that 😂

Axx · 09/04/2024 08:45

You need to work on your rizz. That's an ewww not a 😉

If he's changed though maybe it's nearing the end?

canyouletthedogoutplease · 09/04/2024 08:47

Bansheed · 09/04/2024 07:03

I cannot believe people are still arguing about whether sweaty is sexy or not. The emotional.intelligences of gnats.

OP, he has deliberately wrong footed you. That change in response and then slating your behaviour. I would end it. He either simply is moving on in his head or worse, trying to play with yours. Either way, sadly, it sounds like the relationship should end.

This!

OnHerSolidFoundations · 09/04/2024 08:52

StormingNorman · 08/04/2024 18:21

FML…I didn’t know 😉 was flirting. I sent this to someone at work recently. Winking at them to keep a secret.

🤣

Ofcourseshecan · 09/04/2024 08:53

He’s now not speaking to me.

That’s the most important thing you’ve said, OP. Never mind the misunderstanding. The silent treatment is a love-killer. It really is. Communication is essential. He also seems to criticise you a lot. I wouldn’t stay with someone like that.

ziggies · 09/04/2024 09:05

You sound 16, OP.

ziggies · 09/04/2024 09:07

CandyflossStall · 08/04/2024 18:16

Fair enough. It’s more what he’s saying about the fact that sending something I know he’ll enjoy is ‘not being natural’?!

How do you know he'll enjoy it though? Not everyone has a BO fetish lol

GrumpyPanda · 09/04/2024 09:11

Not sure how you got from this to him not speaking to you.