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AIBU?

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Mum making herself too at home

222 replies

PandaRose · 28/08/2023 22:57

Firstly, apologies for the essay… Hoping you can all tell me if this is really irritating behaviour or if I am being totally unreasonable!

My mum is single and in her 60s and lives a couple of hours drive away. She is a very anxious person about a variety of things and it often makes me feel anxious just being around her because she will get herself into such a state about something like traffic or work and will relay it all in such a way that really puts me on edge.

Because of this I try to politely minimise spending too much time with her but I don’t confront her about it as I think that would make her feel more anxious/upset her which I don’t want to do. She is also very helpful with my kids and looks after them on a semi regular basis.

The thing that’s getting me down at the minute is the amount of time she spends at my house.

A few years ago when she first started looking after my kids for me on alternating Fridays, she would ask if she could come over Thursday night and stay over (fine with me as the drive is quite far and as I mentioned before she’s an anxious driver). But it’s started to become that she would turn up earlier and earlier on a Thursday and now turns up at midday, then will often stay until sat/sun.

She never really directly asks, it just starts to creep earlier and earlier. She will often last minute say she has a headache or is too tired to drive or is worried about driving in the rain etc etc. I know part of it is her anxiety but it does feel like she picks and choose the anxiety to excuse her staying as long as possible.

What I find particularly annoying is she will semi ‘ask’ by saying something like ‘do you mind if I come a bit earlier on Thursday due to X’, but the ‘do I mind’ is totally redundant as if I say yes I’ve got a busy day at work (I WFH) or yes I’ve got to pick the kids up she responds with ‘don’t worry I’ll let myself in and sit downstairs quietly’ or ‘I can pick them up’ etc etc.

When she’s here she is helpful around the house and doesn’t expect to be hosted etc but this also irritates me as she almost makes herself TOO at home… immediately letting herself in with her set of keys and then making herself cups of tea etc. My husband thinks this is fine as she is quiet and just gets on with things (his parents would insist on us getting the silver service out and waiting on them but that’s a whole other issue!)

My AIBU is she is going to house sit for us this weekend as we’re going away on Friday. Just had the standard text of ‘do you mind if I come Thursday lunchtime to avoid rush hour on the road’. Bear in mind we both live quite rurally and rush hour isn’t really a thing! The roads may be slightly busier but it’s not like we’re in central london. When I said I wasnt sure as I had a busy work day on Thursday (and I’ll be packing, washing etc and generally stressing before holiday with kids!) she said she would let herself in and be quiet.

I don’t know what to do as she is doing me a favour by house sitting and is generally very helpful with my kids. But I also don’t want her to show up at midday (or earlier!!) on Thursday while I’m trying to work and get my life sorted.

My husband things I’m being unreasonable because she won’t interrupt me and will just sit downstairs quietly reading/drinking tea but just the thought of her being in my house when I’ve got stuff to do really frustrates me and puts me on edge! AIBU or am I just an awful person?!

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user1471453601 · 28/08/2023 23:02

Yabu. What harm is she doing?

Emiliaswrath · 28/08/2023 23:05

Yes, sorry but I think you are being quite unreasonable. Your mum is travelling to you, to housesit and look after your kids - both favours to you so if coming a little earlier makes her less anxious then that is a very small price to pay.

Clymene · 28/08/2023 23:05

So she does a 4 hour round trip to look after your kids on Friday and you're pissed off she's making herself a cup of tea?

Hmm

Just pay someone

moonseas · 28/08/2023 23:07

Bless her. She sounds lovely and lonely. She obviously likes being quietly helpful in a house full of family life. Can you reframe it like that? She gets to spend the weekend being useful somewhere different. If she’s retired, anxious and single, that gives a great singular purpose she can focus on.

Leaving early to get to your home sounds like she doesn’t have much to do at her own house. I think you need to act with kindness. She’s helpful and willing to step in whenever you need. Make sure to take a break when packing or working to pop down for a cup of tea with her. You’ll miss the chance to do it when you can’t.

PandaRose · 28/08/2023 23:09

Clymene · 28/08/2023 23:05

So she does a 4 hour round trip to look after your kids on Friday and you're pissed off she's making herself a cup of tea?

Hmm

Just pay someone

Well she stays 2-3 nights now so not a 4 hour round trip on a day.

I actually would love to sort out alternative childcare on that day tbh but it’s also the day she gets to see them and I wouldn’t want to take that from her.

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Highdaysandholidays1 · 28/08/2023 23:11

She probably doesn't want to sit around waiting on Thurs to drive to your house in the afternoon/evening, she just wants to get on with the day, get where she's going and get there and get settled. This is entirely reasonable. She's not pestering you or doing annoying things, she's just there. It's more convenient for her to come at midday than drive in the dark to get there at say, 8 when you prefer.

I think you have to suck this one up. Her making herself cups of tea is so trivial I hardly know what to say. Either she's a member of your extended family that can come in, have a cuppa, chat with the kids and help out, or she's not and you shouldn't be asking her to come and help with the kids, childcare, housesitting.

I say this as someone whose mum helps a lot- but I do it around her hours because she is an actual person and has preferences about when she drives, how the day goes. Letting herself in is sensible because you don't like to be disturbed.

I just shout 'mum I'm busy' and she carries on.

I don't think you can ask her to come so regularly and for so many favours only on your own timetable/exact preferences, sorry.

PandaRose · 28/08/2023 23:11

moonseas · 28/08/2023 23:07

Bless her. She sounds lovely and lonely. She obviously likes being quietly helpful in a house full of family life. Can you reframe it like that? She gets to spend the weekend being useful somewhere different. If she’s retired, anxious and single, that gives a great singular purpose she can focus on.

Leaving early to get to your home sounds like she doesn’t have much to do at her own house. I think you need to act with kindness. She’s helpful and willing to step in whenever you need. Make sure to take a break when packing or working to pop down for a cup of tea with her. You’ll miss the chance to do it when you can’t.

Thank you for this, what a nice way of looking at it. I wish I was more like this!

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Clefable · 28/08/2023 23:13

She sounds very helpful and no bother, so I think it wouldn't be very nice to tell her not to when she's helping you out. The fact she just gets on with things and amuses herself would be a massive bonus. My mum died recently but she was like this when she came to visit, she wouldn't expect to be looked after or have anyone run around after her, she just wanted to help and spend time with us. She often did some weeding or cooked dinner or watched baby so I could sleep, etc. I will miss that a lot.

Beaverbridge · 28/08/2023 23:16

Yabu.

Highdaysandholidays1 · 28/08/2023 23:16

I also think it's fine for you to not want her there Thurs-Sat every other weekend and to arrange different childcare. Then her visit will be more like a 'visitor' and perhaps less frequent. If your husband likes her being around (or tolerates it) and the kids also like seeing her (as she's not an obtrusive grandma) then you are really the one who finds it annoying. She probably doesn't know this, she probably thinks she's helping you out extra if she's coming and sitting quietly, then doing childcare/household chores.

Aserena · 28/08/2023 23:17

She’s not really doing any harm, is she OP? She likes spending time with you and in your home. I don’t want to be “that” poster, but one day you will be living without her and you will feel sad looking back at how you once wished to see less of her.

ButterCrackers · 28/08/2023 23:17

YANBU. Have a chat with her. Tell her that you need a quiet moment by yourself in your house. It sounds like she’s lonely and feels useful at your home. Is there anyway you or your dh could collect her and take her back even halfway or from the train or bus stop? That way she wouldn’t have anxiety about the journey. For the lonely aspect could you spend sometime with her at her house. Go out, see if there are any activities locally she could join. If she’s introverted or socially anxious it’s difficult. She might feel safe at your house. Your dh is good to accept her staying.

BellaBellla · 28/08/2023 23:18

I think she just sounds very lonely, and she obviously also really likes your company as well as your young family, which is a nice thing. I think grin and bear it despite her being hard work. There will come a day when you'd love nothing more for her to be in your house but she won't be there anymore.

Beastlyofburden · 28/08/2023 23:19

You need to pay someone - your poor mum - are you an only & spoilt?

TomatoSandwiches · 28/08/2023 23:20

The staying until Sunday is too much but the rest is really not anything to hold against her imo.
You sound a bit controlling tbh and it seems only you have a problem with her. By all means pay for someone yo help which means you have control but it's unreasonable to think of your mother in such a negative way when she is really doing you a lot of favours.

Winterscomingagain · 28/08/2023 23:24

Your requirements seem so transactional although it may be useful for your Mother to encourage her to socialise and meet others outside her immediate family.

MsRosley · 28/08/2023 23:24

She's helping you out, but not in a way you find convenient. Work out for yourself whether you're being reasonable, OP.

Bellyblueboy · 28/08/2023 23:29

My concern here is more about having such an anxious person caring for your children

my dad has become even more anxious as he has aged - it translates into negativity about everything. It has taken me years to get over this fear of doing anything - he really did a number on my self confidence as a child. There is always a voice telling me what will go wrong. He is proud of it - says he is slays prepared for the worst. As my therapist says I have wasted years catastrophising over things that never happened.
awful way to live:

MangshorJhol · 28/08/2023 23:30

She not only provides childcare but she is helping you out by house sitting. And you think that when she comes in from a 2 hour drive she shouldn’t make herself a cup of tea?

Thing is that I bet this means that you and DH have the odd bit of flexibility. You know she’s there on a Thursday evening or a Saturday morning and you can pop out without the kids even if it’s for 10 mins. Can you honestly say you have never taken advantage of that?If she said I will come at 9 am on a Friday and leave at 9 am on a Sat and no even if you ask I won’t stay for a single hour more, I bet you wouldn’t be happy. Or if she came in and asked you to do everything for her. Including making cups of tea.

As someone described it, this sounds hugely transactional- as if your mum owes you this but in return you don’t owe her some generosity, comfort and companionship.

continentallentil · 28/08/2023 23:30

I actually would love to sort out alternative childcare on that day tbh but it’s also the day she gets to see them and I wouldn’t want to take that from her.

She’s providing you with free childcare, you can’t really spin this as a favour to her - what she does get in return is a respite from loneliness and to feel part of family life.

If you want to see less of her then find an alternative for sure, but first consider whether you can reframe your thinking. It really doesn’t sound as if she gets in your way, it’s good for your kids to know their granny, it saves you money and it gets her out of the house. Why does her being there mean you can’t get on with stuff?

I do think staying all weekend is too much though - I’d let her pitch up on Thursday but take her home on Friday night, or Saturday lunch time some weeks.

If you can encourage her to build more of a life locally to her, that would also be helpful.

IhateHPSDeaneCnt · 28/08/2023 23:34

This must be a reverse. Otherwise OP is not a nice person.

10HailMarys · 28/08/2023 23:36

I’m usually really irritable about people being in my house too much, but even I wouldn’t begrudge my mum making herself a cuppa and amusing herself downstairs while I was working, especially if she was coming over to look after my kids or house sit!

You know she’s anxious about certain things so cut her some slack.

CrackedChina · 28/08/2023 23:38

Do you think she'd like to live closer to you so she could pop in and be useful but not stay 2 or 3 nights?

Friggingfrog · 28/08/2023 23:38

I can see why it could get annoying that your mum ends up staying over every single weekend when you might just want your house to yourself. Once a month maybe but every week is a lot so i see where you’re coming from. She does sound lovely and a bit lonely too but Thurs to sun each week would be a lot for me too. It doesn’t make you a bad person to want your own space in your own home. You can appreciate your mum and want your own space at the same time

PandaRose · 28/08/2023 23:38

Thanks for your replies everyone, I did start trying to respond individually but didn’t realise I would get so many.

To be clear, I’m not expecting her to arrive and leave at exact timings, it’s just getting me down recently that rather than her staying for 1 day and 1 night it’s basically become 3 nights.

I think I do need to organise alternative childcare instead, I’m just worried about upsetting her.

Lots to think about anyway. I really appreciate everyone who has taken time to reply!

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