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Husband and our (f) best friend on holiday

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OfMyDog · 06/08/2023 14:10

Sanity check please. Just back from 10 days in Santorini where it was me, DH our DS and also my best friend and her DS of same age. She is on a lower income so we offered for her and her son to join us and we paid for everything. She’s married too but she and her husband aren’t close so he stayed home, so just took her and her son.

She’s mainly my best friend and we’re super close and I trust her implicitly, but my husband also counts her as his best friend. They used to work together years ago. At home they go out alone together all the time, play sport together, meet for coffee and if one is WFH, they meet up at our house or hers for lunch without me. Our sons are in same class at school and it’s all one merged family. Her husband doesn’t seem to care what she does.

In the first week of the holiday they were spending loads of time together and I felt a bit like a spare part sometimes, he chats to her more than me, they joke together, they went to watch the sunset together on the beach alone etc. If we go somewhere, he sits in the middle of us with one of us either side but then he talks to her and ignores me, and if I bring this up he just makes out that it’s his right and that I’m boring him by even mentioning it.

I love her to bits and believe she is fully on my side, but I hate seeing him laughing and joking with her. I trust her and I’ve no physical evidence to doubt that he is doing anything, though he’s alwsys on his phone late at night :/ My family says that I’m being too trusting and that it’s not right. When I’ve tried speaking to him about it and how I feel, he shuts it down and says I’m being ridiculous and turns it into an argument about how it’s my fault and I’m being silly.

One thing that really stood out was a night on holiday where both our DS had fallen asleep in ‘our’ hotel room, so I stayed with them, and DH who’d been texting her all eve went to her hotel room and was gone for ages. When I went over and knocked, they were just sat on sofa and she was in her PJs, I have no reason to think anything happened then or any other time, but maybe I’m also being naiive!?!?

I don’t know what I’m asking other than AINBU to think that they’re just friends and it’s fine? I trust her, and I’ve never seen any evidence of him cheating. It’s just a bit uncomfortable with it sometimes and any of my other friends who hear about it think im a mug. I also hate how he just shuts me down and says I’m being too clingy for even mentioning it. Now we’re back in the UK they’re literally finding every opportunity to go for walks together and again I feel like the spare part, argh!

Please tell me I’m not being ridiculous!

xx

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Lennon80 · 07/08/2023 23:21

midnightrecovery · 07/08/2023 23:18

Well the other troll thread that had many replies, was closed down today. It was about a pretend stillborn baby and pretend baby funeral. And pretend holiday for the op. Exactly the same writing style as this.

why the hell would you even bother doing this? Some people are so odd. What are you getting out of doing it? Mind boggles.

midnightrecovery · 07/08/2023 23:23

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Curtainswithpompoms · 07/08/2023 23:24

Twitching a bit here…

I need to clear this up:

THE SUN SETS IN THE WEST!!!

phew- that’s that cleared up. As you were.

midnightrecovery · 07/08/2023 23:24

JenniferBooth · 07/08/2023 23:19

Oh fucking brilliant What a waste of time

Indeed.

CarPour · 07/08/2023 23:26

Curtainswithpompoms · 07/08/2023 23:24

Twitching a bit here…

I need to clear this up:

THE SUN SETS IN THE WEST!!!

phew- that’s that cleared up. As you were.

I think it's more the geography of santorini thats not known not sunset direction

Curtainswithpompoms · 07/08/2023 23:27

CarPour · 07/08/2023 23:26

I think it's more the geography of santorini thats not known not sunset direction

I think you’re very generous.

CarPour · 07/08/2023 23:32

SonicStars · 07/08/2023 23:21

I hope that it's very different. I would hate to think that my friends wife is feeling like the OP. But her friend could quite easily be me and be stunned that her actions have been misconstrued like this.

She hasn't voiced it to her friend. My friends wife has never expressed any concerns. Thank you for saying I don't seem unkind, but I've seen no evidence her friend is being unkind. Thoughtless yes.

Good point about her friends and family having concerns - people in real life will see things better than a forum of strangers.

But surely you wouldn't go watch the sunset with them whilst their partner babysat your child?

Would you go sit in their bedroom in their PJs and leave your husband alone on holiday? Or leave their wife again awake and caring for your child?

Would you sit their chatting to him and leave his wife sat like a numpty, ignored on the end?

And if you were doing these things surely you aren't obtuse enough to not realise it might upset his wife?

Sandra1984 · 07/08/2023 23:34

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FedUpWithEverything123 · 07/08/2023 23:35

"they went to watch the sunset together on the beach alone"

Very unusual to watch the sunset from a beach in Santorini, it's all cliffs

SonicStars · 07/08/2023 23:40

sunglassesonthetable · 07/08/2023 21:52

@SonicStars

Does your husband feel left out?

Does your husband question his understanding of your relationship ?

Does your husband feel sidelined and insecure?

Does your husband feel like he's 2nd best?

Does your husband feel belittled and ignored?

You are not in the same situation despite having a best friend of the opposite sex.

No he doesn't. But as far as we know, the best friends husband doesn't feel that way.

And @Silverseas1 I 100% would do all of those things with him (assuming I worked from home, liked sport etc.) We take part in shared interest events that our partners aren't interested in. Of course its far less now then when we were teenagers because life and kids get in the way - I can't remember the last time I saw anyone kid free, but we've been out for dinner just the two of us many times in the past.

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GillianCarole · 07/08/2023 23:41

It's very disrespectful of both of them. If I was you and he spoke to me like that, his ears would burn! You do not have to tolerate such bad behaviour, nor should you. Your friend should be more empathetic and know that their behaviour is inappropriate. He should be YOUR 'best friend' - not hers. I think a serious conversation is necessary about his intentions. Does he want to stay married? It's obviously easier for him to maintain the status quo than split up - currently he has both of you on the end of a rope. I'd be concerned about her motives as well. Sounds like she's got all the benefits of a male companion without any of the crap.

midnightrecovery · 07/08/2023 23:42

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Yes.

Zampa · 07/08/2023 23:42

There are West facing beaches near Oia (misses point of thread).

Husband and our (f) best friend on holiday
NosinaBook · 07/08/2023 23:42

I can't understand why you entertain this. Both are way overstepping boundaries. My husband and I both have good friends of the opposite sex but we rarely socialise with them alone because we all have partners that we prioritise. I mean watching the sunset together?? C'mon. They are rubbing their disregard and disrespect for you right in your face. Your husband sounds like a manipulative bloomin sweary word.

GillianCarole · 07/08/2023 23:43

Absolutely agree

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Jillybloop393 · 07/08/2023 23:45

What a horrible pair they are!
Tell her how you feel, see if she backs off - I don't think she will. Does he leave his mobile about - do you know how to open it? I'm betting he keeps it closer than close!
If they feel more for you than they do for each other then they should be putting your feelings to the front, and sadly they're not. She's no friend of yours, far from it!

BreadInCaptivity · 07/08/2023 23:47

None of those places are a beach

Like strolling along the coast Hmm

Givemethereins · 07/08/2023 23:47

I'm so sorry your being gaslighted by both your husband and best/goodish friend.
I would say though as a child who was very much aware of my dad's blatant flirting/cheating with a close family friend. While you may not yet be able to see the whole truth, your children will absolutely be able to sense the vibes, feel the undercurrent of sexual tension. Notice all the looks, unusual attention to each other and basically full affair going on within your family home.

And my guess is they hate her. And if you asked them how they feel about your friend (not in.anyway suggesting you ask them!) They will have alot of uncomfortable feelings to express. Kids can.pick up on adult situations far, far more than we give them credit for. I hated that I was subject to these gross vibes that my mum seemed oblivious too. I'm sorry for.this miserable situation but theres a good chance your kids are suffering in silence and most likely will be very relieved when you let the truth come out.

Mumsyimmy · 07/08/2023 23:49

I had this, really good female friend and my husband got on like a house on fire. I felt like a spare part whenever they were together. Fast forward 5 years- we are divorced and now they are together. Turned out she had been sending him pictures of a certain nature whilst we were together (I was recovering from cancer at that time).
She couldn't do enough for me at that time and wanted me to lean on her throughout our divorce. My daughter accidentally let the cat out of the bag as they do sometimes.
Your husband sounds very much like my ex-husband. It's always "our" fault and never theirs. He is gaslighting you and too be honest from what I read so has she. They deserve each other- they will never trust each other.
Just focus on you and your son. Get rid of both of them and find new friends xx

Highfivemum · 07/08/2023 23:50

your DH or friend are both behaving badly. You should be your DH priority.

my best friend is a male. Know him most of my life. I love him to pieces in a brotherly way. No way would I ever interfere with his relationships. He has a fiancée and she is number one. As she should be. I would open my eyes and look what is in front of your nose. Two so called people who are suppose to love you treating you badly. I wish you well

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FedUpWithEverything123 · 07/08/2023 23:52

There are West facing beaches near Oia

Are there really though? Where on your map? And was the OP staying low down near a beach? Because if not, do you know how long it takes to get from cliff-top to beach? And why even would you, you'd just watch from the top!

JenniferBooth · 07/08/2023 23:54

@Mumsyimmy Wow What a pair of cunts. Hope you are well now Flowers

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