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Husband and our (f) best friend on holiday

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OfMyDog · 06/08/2023 14:10

Sanity check please. Just back from 10 days in Santorini where it was me, DH our DS and also my best friend and her DS of same age. She is on a lower income so we offered for her and her son to join us and we paid for everything. She’s married too but she and her husband aren’t close so he stayed home, so just took her and her son.

She’s mainly my best friend and we’re super close and I trust her implicitly, but my husband also counts her as his best friend. They used to work together years ago. At home they go out alone together all the time, play sport together, meet for coffee and if one is WFH, they meet up at our house or hers for lunch without me. Our sons are in same class at school and it’s all one merged family. Her husband doesn’t seem to care what she does.

In the first week of the holiday they were spending loads of time together and I felt a bit like a spare part sometimes, he chats to her more than me, they joke together, they went to watch the sunset together on the beach alone etc. If we go somewhere, he sits in the middle of us with one of us either side but then he talks to her and ignores me, and if I bring this up he just makes out that it’s his right and that I’m boring him by even mentioning it.

I love her to bits and believe she is fully on my side, but I hate seeing him laughing and joking with her. I trust her and I’ve no physical evidence to doubt that he is doing anything, though he’s alwsys on his phone late at night :/ My family says that I’m being too trusting and that it’s not right. When I’ve tried speaking to him about it and how I feel, he shuts it down and says I’m being ridiculous and turns it into an argument about how it’s my fault and I’m being silly.

One thing that really stood out was a night on holiday where both our DS had fallen asleep in ‘our’ hotel room, so I stayed with them, and DH who’d been texting her all eve went to her hotel room and was gone for ages. When I went over and knocked, they were just sat on sofa and she was in her PJs, I have no reason to think anything happened then or any other time, but maybe I’m also being naiive!?!?

I don’t know what I’m asking other than AINBU to think that they’re just friends and it’s fine? I trust her, and I’ve never seen any evidence of him cheating. It’s just a bit uncomfortable with it sometimes and any of my other friends who hear about it think im a mug. I also hate how he just shuts me down and says I’m being too clingy for even mentioning it. Now we’re back in the UK they’re literally finding every opportunity to go for walks together and again I feel like the spare part, argh!

Please tell me I’m not being ridiculous!

xx

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Sandra1984 · 07/08/2023 22:56

I've heard they go and work straight for the daily mail after the MN internship. then nick some of the real threads 😂

OfMyDog · 07/08/2023 22:56

I’m a real person, it’s a real situation. Just fyi for the person who said I’m threatening to lock the thread because I don’t like what I’m hearing - that’s a misunderstanding. I didn’t mean that I’m threatening to, just meant that after 800 replies in 24H I’ve seen enough to get a good wide angle of opinions and I don’t think there’s much new that can come from it now. I keep checking back and reading bits through.

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Sandra1984 · 07/08/2023 22:58

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Why can't you watch a sunset from any Santorini beach? you can watch a sunset from ANY beach (?).

OfMyDog · 07/08/2023 23:00

This could be part 2 of the thread… if they weren’t watching the sunset then what were they doing!!!

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midnightrecovery · 07/08/2023 23:00

Sandra1984 · 07/08/2023 22:56

I've heard they go and work straight for the daily mail after the MN internship. then nick some of the real threads 😂

Judging from all closed threads lately, probably. MN is becoming more and more like reddit. Sad.

midnightrecovery · 07/08/2023 23:01

OfMyDog · 07/08/2023 23:00

This could be part 2 of the thread… if they weren’t watching the sunset then what were they doing!!!

How can you even care anymore, if this was real? It’s not. Noone would be this dumb.

midnightrecovery · 07/08/2023 23:02

midnightrecovery · 07/08/2023 23:01

How can you even care anymore, if this was real? It’s not. Noone would be this dumb.

Plus you sound a bit desperate now tbh.

PumpkinPieWalnuts · 07/08/2023 23:02

Sandra1984 · 07/08/2023 22:58

Why can't you watch a sunset from any Santorini beach? you can watch a sunset from ANY beach (?).

I just googled this and loads of pages about how amazing it is to watch the sunset in Santorini - so I am super confused? Why are some posters saying it’s impossible?

Sandra1984 · 07/08/2023 23:04

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Husband and our (f) best friend on holiday
OfMyDog · 07/08/2023 23:04

midnightrecovery · 07/08/2023 23:01

How can you even care anymore, if this was real? It’s not. Noone would be this dumb.

I do care, was just feeling a bit fed up and being flippant. Didn’t mean it seriously.

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CarPour · 07/08/2023 23:06

Waiting patiently to find out why you cant watch the sunset in santorini?

What happens to the Sun?

Fallenangelofthenorth · 07/08/2023 23:06

Sandra1984 · 07/08/2023 22:58

Why can't you watch a sunset from any Santorini beach? you can watch a sunset from ANY beach (?).

Because the beaches on Santorini are on the east of the Island. I guess you could go to an East facing beach and look behind you? But would you do that? I wouldn't. So if it's genuine op is being made a mug.

midnightrecovery · 07/08/2023 23:07

OfMyDog · 07/08/2023 23:00

This could be part 2 of the thread… if they weren’t watching the sunset then what were they doing!!!

Ok this reply was your fall. 😂 Well played op, lasted long. Still a stupid wannabe troll, like so many others last few weeks. The writing style is the same too.

Fallenangelofthenorth · 07/08/2023 23:07

Sandra1984 · 07/08/2023 23:04

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None of those places are a beach

KarmaStar · 07/08/2023 23:10

🌟🌟Hi op.
As you said you've had several hundred replies to your post and I hope it's helped you see your position clearly.
It's not that easy to just kick him out of to leave is it ?
What you can do is start to believe in yourself and realise you are worth so much more than this.please read on improving your self esteem and consider getting advice on being financially secure for when he and your not df get together.
You really do not need him in your life and when you have the courage to realise this then only good things can come your way.but take back the control,you know what they are up to,now you are in control about what to do about it.
Your ds may well be upset but in the long run he will respect you.good luck.you've got this.

Fallenangelofthenorth · 07/08/2023 23:11

CarPour · 07/08/2023 23:06

Waiting patiently to find out why you cant watch the sunset in santorini?

What happens to the Sun?

The sun goes behind you if you're on a beach. It's nothing weird. Just Santorini doesn't have any West facing beaches so it's not possible to sit on the beach and watch the sunset into the sea which is what most people go to the beach at sunset for.

Sandra1984 · 07/08/2023 23:14

OfMyDog · 07/08/2023 23:00

This could be part 2 of the thread… if they weren’t watching the sunset then what were they doing!!!

You need to sit with your husband, open a bottle of wine and let him know how you regret not watching that beautiful sunset, then casually inquire what beach they went to and the best angle to watch the sunset (east or west?) record conversation on the phone without his knowledge. have him give you all the details, the drive to the beach, what route they took etc... Then go into google and find out if he's lying. There you will have the answer.

Sandra1984 · 07/08/2023 23:15

it's called "detective work".

Silverseas1 · 07/08/2023 23:15

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SamW98 · 07/08/2023 23:16

Ive Been to Santorini several times and matched sunrise from the beach at Kamari but for sunset you need to go to the other side of the island. Most get the bus to Oia to watch the sun go down and there’s no beach there.

Nutterjacks · 07/08/2023 23:17

"When I’ve tried speaking to him about it and how I feel, he shuts it down and says I’m being ridiculous and turns it into an argument about how it’s my fault and I’m being silly."

Fucking typical response from a guilty cheater... dead giveaway!

I do feel for you OP, for having completely trusted your friend for all this time, who now has completely betrayed you in the worst possible way.

There would be no going back from this if I were you... you deserve much better.

Sending you love and strength x

midnightrecovery · 07/08/2023 23:18

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Well the other troll thread that had many replies, was closed down today. It was about a pretend stillborn baby and pretend baby funeral. And pretend holiday for the op. Exactly the same writing style as this.

JenniferBooth · 07/08/2023 23:19

Oh fucking brilliant What a waste of time

CarPour · 07/08/2023 23:19

Fallenangelofthenorth · 07/08/2023 23:11

The sun goes behind you if you're on a beach. It's nothing weird. Just Santorini doesn't have any West facing beaches so it's not possible to sit on the beach and watch the sunset into the sea which is what most people go to the beach at sunset for.

I see, I didn't know that!

OP where were you staying?

SonicStars · 07/08/2023 23:21

Siouxiesiouxiesioux · 07/08/2023 21:41

Your situation sounds quite different to OPs. Do your friends and family worry about what’s going on? Do the other partners feel ignored and left out?Have they voiced this to you? You didn’t mention watching the sunset with your friend while his wife watched the kids. Probably because it would never happen because you are not unkind. At least you don’t sound unkind. OPs friend does not have OP’s back. It is truly sad.

I hope that it's very different. I would hate to think that my friends wife is feeling like the OP. But her friend could quite easily be me and be stunned that her actions have been misconstrued like this.

She hasn't voiced it to her friend. My friends wife has never expressed any concerns. Thank you for saying I don't seem unkind, but I've seen no evidence her friend is being unkind. Thoughtless yes.

Good point about her friends and family having concerns - people in real life will see things better than a forum of strangers.

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