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To be done with autism

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stargirl1701 · 11/07/2023 13:54

I'm done with it.

DD1 is autistic. She is nearly 11, diagnosed at 5. We have made numerous adjustments at home. School have made numerous adjustments. All to no avail.

She swore and kicked her little sister yesterday. Immediate consequence no screens for 24 hours and sent to her room. Of course, meltdown. 2 HOURS later after punching and kicking me she complies.

I'm done.

The needs of the many are now coming first. I'm on my sixth anti-depressant, DD2 is terrified in her own home, DH spends his life walking the dog trying to remain calm in the face is extreme provocation.

I'm done. No more. The 3 of us are coming first for the first time in more than a decade. I'm done.

No more empathy. No more trying to understand. Done.

No matter what we do, she has violent meltdowns. She thinks of no-one but herself. Modelling doesn't work. Talking incidents through doesn't work. She won't use any strategy she has been taught to avoid a meltdown.

I'm done. Time to live our lives.

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AnorLondo · 11/07/2023 16:56

PollyThePixie · 11/07/2023 16:46

She’s venting. And I suspect if you she makes any changes she won’t approach them with anger.

Well, congrats on being psychic I suppose.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 11/07/2023 16:56

PollyThePixie · 11/07/2023 16:40

@EilonwyWithRedGoldHair there's a reason sleep deprivation is a form of torture. 🙈🙈🙈

my son never slept either apart from a couple hours every night. It was horrendous. Is your sons problem that he can’t fall asleep or won’t? A few things I used to get some success with - epsom salts baths, a weighted blanket, rubbing lavender oil into the soles of his feet then putting his socks back on. You need to use more than you think though as not all of the oil will be absorbed. You can mix it with a cream if you like. Have you tried any sensory stuff with your boy. A session before bed can help. Would he like an electric blanket as sometimes being warm in bed helps. Or perhaps a much colder bedroom would help? Coukd you ask for a referral to a pediatrician to see if he can have melatonin? Something else to consider. Can you get your son to wear a smart watch at night and use a sleep app to see just how long he does sleep and what stages of sleep he goes through.

if I can be of anymore help please just say.

Thank you - we do have a weighted blanket, it saved my sanity as without it he was waking every two hours every night., and I'd have to go in to him until he settled again. Now he mostly sleeps through.

I think he gets anxious on his own, which obviously doesn't help him fall asleep. He won't go up to bed at bedtime anymore - and tbh I don't blame him, if I had to go up at 8 and stay in my room for at least four hours before falling asleep I'd be pretty fed up as well.

We have an essential oil diffuser thing that he likes. We usually go up about 10-10.30, he sits on his exercise ball and watches a video on youtube and eats some ice, then he cleans his teeth (unless he's extremely dysregulated), snuggles into bed and watches another video then settles down to sleep about 11/11.15 and is usually asleep by 12.30, though some nights its 1am. Most nights out cat joins us and DS likes that.

He won't wear anything on his wrist, and won't wear socks to bed (he has sensory issues with things on his feet). We've asked for melatonin but nobody will do anything at the moment - camhs wouldn't do anything as they say it's ND, but we've not had the assessment yet, though the various people involved now put in a huge amount of work and got his referral expedited so the appointment is coming up and it will have been a year long wait rather than over two. Everyone says he's ND though, even if they can only say it off the record.

Thank you for the suggestions though. We've been using a different oil in the diffuser - that was recommended to us by someone whose son is ASD, but I'll get some lavender as well - or you can get microwave things with lavender in I think - like a cuddly toy you heat up and it smells of lavender? - DS loves cuddly toys so that might work in the winter (he also loves an electric blanket.)

IAmSalmaFuckingHayek · 11/07/2023 16:57

Is she allowed to have her meals on her own?
Is she allowed screens on her room?

Northernsoul72 · 11/07/2023 16:58

This is a very sad post. I feel for you all. There are no easy answers. You may have said but is there a chance she can get a break from the family home, to help you all. Would you consider any type of residential placement?

YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet · 11/07/2023 16:58

Thanks to everyone who has offered advice and support to the OP. As @stargirl1701 has explained she is finding her situation intolerable, we'd ask that you consider this in your responses and show some understanding of how difficult things are right now.

We're also so sorry to hear that many of you are struggling - you may find the resources in our Mental health webguide useful.

Here are some further resources that may be useful for parents and carers of autistic children and young people:
https://www.ambitiousaboutautism.org.uk/
https://www.annakennedyonline.com/
https://autismearlysupport.org.uk/

Thanks.
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Viviennemary · 11/07/2023 17:00

I agree physicsl violence is unacceptable. Think of your other child growing up with this, is residential care an option., I dont think I could cope if the violemce is on a daily basis.

LilyPark · 11/07/2023 17:00

stargirl1701 · 11/07/2023 15:17

@LilyPark

Snort. So after being told I'm cruel and abusive the require DD1 to stay in her room, you're now telling me to serve her meals there so she never leaves! 😂🤪

at no point did I say you were cruel and abusive. You may have been mixing me up with a different poster. I believe I sympathised with your plight and made some suggestions

oakleaffy · 11/07/2023 17:00

stargirl1701 · 11/07/2023 15:34

@SuperFi

I had one at work when a bird made the same noise she does at the start of a meltdown.

That sounds like PTSD in you... There used to a radio jingle years ago that sounded {Momentarily} like an angry relative before they kicked off- It used to make me tense up immediately.

DrySherry · 11/07/2023 17:01

stargirl1701 · 11/07/2023 16:52

@PollyThePixie

I know.

I must be strong. My children need me to hold the line. I am. I will not surrender to violence in my home.

Wow, I'm drained by just reading through your posts OP.
I sincerely hope you can find a route to improving the situation and I completely get why you feel utterly exhausted by the endless battle. You are something special to be dealing with that day in day out. Your a proper rock even if you feel like a puddle sometimes x

Viviennemary · 11/07/2023 17:01

Crosspost with MN message.

Greenflamesburn · 11/07/2023 17:02

Not sure if this has been said but could you possibly be letting her have to may choices?
As in that is sending her brain into a tissy? what to pick what to pick and it having to be snap choices. Taking them away may help.
I understand where you are coming from with the needs of the many coming first, it sounds like you all walk on egg shell around her. That can't be pleasant for any of you.
I wish you all the best OP, over the next 2 weeks while you break in the new routine, what ever it is, it may be tough.

stargirl1701 · 11/07/2023 17:02

@IAmSalmaFuckingHayek

Absolutely. As I said, only a few demands are requirements.

Teeth
Seatbelt
Bathing once a week
Meds
No violence

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Fingeronthebutton · 11/07/2023 17:02

triforcetotem
All I can say to you is: the mother is very grateful.

Folioh · 11/07/2023 17:02

Orchidgal · 11/07/2023 16:33

Just have to jump on in response to this and say the screens absolutely do not help children to self-regulate. The absolute opposite in fact.
They keep them occupied - like a chocolate cake would, but that is NOT the same as self-regulation. Many if not most children are far LESS regulated after being on a screen, especially those with autism.

@Orchidgal that might be the case for your child, but it isn’t the case for all.

JenWillsiam · 11/07/2023 17:02

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 11/07/2023 16:48

And that is one of the most clueless.

It’s really not. The hatred toward this child is beyond what’s acceptable. She needs to be anywhere but that home.

LimitIsUp · 11/07/2023 17:02

Bewilderedandhurt · 11/07/2023 14:58

My kids do not have autism and I noticed that their behaviour is markedly more pleasent and relaxed when screens and devices are not available and used.
We have considerable cut down screen time and make an effort to engage with each other more rather than all be watching or doing things on separate screens.
The world of instant gratification that the young ones are so used to now does nothing to promote patience and tolerance.
Sure if your previous approach has not borne success then why not try the school of hard nots.

Yeah, best not to comment because you don't have autistic dc or work with autistic people - so you don't have a single clue

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 11/07/2023 17:02

triforcetotem · 11/07/2023 16:54

Is your son that rude to everyone?

The cultural differences between autistic people and neurotypical people are illustrated beautifully by the above quote thread.

Autistic people appreciate direct communication. Your idea of rudeness may well be our idea of greatly-appreciated clarity.

Norwichknowall · 11/07/2023 17:03

All the posters suggesting a pda diagnosis are you aware many counties (eg norfolk where I live) don’t diagnose this and local authorities are reluctant to even acknowledge private daignosis? It’s one of those post code lotteries.

I do agree though that looking at pda specific strategies and advise might be useful. Some of it is quite different to normal ASD advice.

PollyThePixie · 11/07/2023 17:03

AnorLondo · 11/07/2023 16:56

Well, congrats on being psychic I suppose.

Better that than being someone posting and not offering much of anything that’s helpful.

stargirl1701 · 11/07/2023 17:03

@LilyPark

No, you didn't.

It's the juxtaposition that I'm referring to.

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iamenougheveryday · 11/07/2023 17:04

stargirl1701 · 11/07/2023 14:06

@x2boys

I mean:

She remains in her own room when we are at home. No more of DD2 sobbing in hers whilst DD1 rampages around kicking, hitting and biting DH and I. The house is ours. We will use it.

She eats first by herself before we have our family meal.

No screens. That's a privilege she doesn't get.

No extra effort expended for her. She wanted to get every single Cub Scout badge and I made that happen. No more.

Short term I agree with this. You have to put boundaries in place to ensure the rest of your safety/sanity.

ZombieBeryl · 11/07/2023 17:04

I completely empathise. I also have a child with SEN with violent and challenging behaviour. I'd highly recommend joining the Newbold Hope family support group on Facebook. You will be able to talk to parents who understand and won't judge you. I have found the group very helpful 💐

To be done with autism
stargirl1701 · 11/07/2023 17:04

@oakleaffy

I did think that afterwards.

What the hell I do about that, I don't know.

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LilyPark · 11/07/2023 17:05

stargirl1701 · 11/07/2023 17:03

@LilyPark

No, you didn't.

It's the juxtaposition that I'm referring to.

I know you're busy answering and reading other threads but I am so intrigued why you think feeding daughter in room is such an odd suggestion?

HoollyWugger · 11/07/2023 17:05

I am where you are.
TAF did nothing.
CIN team did nothing.
Independent special school PX'd him.
My application for residential special school was deemed to be just to meet MY needs so was refused.
DGC's social worker has met him once in four months for ten minutes.
I have applied for section 20 so I can hopefully rebuild a relationship from afar.

Honestly, if you haven't walked this road, with stones in your shoes and sand in your eyes, please don't think that we haven't tried EVERYTHING.

I too am DONE. I have no more care left in me.

Hugs OP - and solidarity x

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