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To be put out that my friend is asking me to pay her money?

774 replies

Sundaycoffee · 12/06/2023 20:15

I was given a very nice perk through work for myself and a plus one for an all expenses paid trip, it included hotel, all food and drink and entertainment for the value of £400 per person and I chose to take a particualr friend. My friend kindly drove us there and back (Bristol to London). She text me today asking me to transfer her half of the petrol money for the trip (£20)
AIBU to think if someone had done the same for me I would let the petrol money slide?

OP posts:
TheThinkingGoblin · 12/06/2023 23:43

Sundaycoffee · 12/06/2023 23:06

I don't get the impression it was this. She told me she liked / wanted to see this particular artist. She also spent money on merch when there

Its possible she over-spent on the merch and is now trying to claw back money from you.

I would stand my ground. Not your problem.

Iamtheonwandlonely · 12/06/2023 23:43

GG1986 · 12/06/2023 22:23

This! She is £40 down. You've paid nothing at all as it was all expenses paid trip and now you are expecting her to pay all the petrol money too.

The df had a lovely weekend she wouldn't have had otherwise.
In this case sometimes it's nice to be nice .

Casilero · 12/06/2023 23:44

I'm definitely going to get my mum to join mumsnet. She's 74, and she does sometimes get bored (in between lunch dates and holidays) and posts random shit on Facebook.

She'd be way more use on here. She'd not only be picking people up on manners, she'd be in her element correcting all the grammar mistakes such as "could of" and double negatives. Unfortunately, she won't be able to correct pronunciation as she can't hear that. But anyone who writes "innit" will rue the day they were born 🤣🤣🤣

MsRosley · 12/06/2023 23:46

KirstenBlest · 12/06/2023 20:19

Did you only ask her because she has a car?

Did you only ask this because you're determined to put the worst possible spin on people's motives?

mathanxiety · 12/06/2023 23:46

Preps · 12/06/2023 20:24

TBH if the trip was all expenses paid so hasn't cost you anything, I'd have probably offered petrol money in your shoes. I definitely wouldn't have asked for it in her shoes though.

OOI how did she come to be doing the driving?

Agree.

The trip cost you nothing.

JandalsAlways · 12/06/2023 23:47

LuluBlakey1 · 12/06/2023 23:33

How about
'I am really taken aback by your request for £20 for petrol. You've just had a free, lovely weekend, all expenses paid - hotel, food, drink and entertainment- because I asked if you wanted to come with me and share my prize. You chose to come along, we had a great time and I can't believe you're now asking me for £20 petrol money- I'm really disappointed by this and what it says about how you value our friendship.
I wondered if you wanted to reconsider the request before I consider my response.'

I like this reply 👌

MsRosley · 12/06/2023 23:47

ItsNotRocketSalad · 12/06/2023 20:26

The socially inept tightwads have arrived to the thread. Excellent!

😆

MsRosley · 12/06/2023 23:50

VerdentMedows · 12/06/2023 23:21

She's a CF for sure but is it worth removing a friend over £20. From her point of view you got the trip for free too and I bet she thinks and £20 each was worth it for the time away.

It's definitely worth removing a friend for being a tight-fisted, rude, ungrateful arsehole, yes. Who needs friends like that?

Misty84 · 12/06/2023 23:51

Preps · 12/06/2023 20:24

TBH if the trip was all expenses paid so hasn't cost you anything, I'd have probably offered petrol money in your shoes. I definitely wouldn't have asked for it in her shoes though.

OOI how did she come to be doing the driving?

This!

Casilero · 12/06/2023 23:54

@Sundaycoffee

Honestly, next time you get a perk, invite me. I live nowhere near Bristol, but I'll drive 400 miles to pick you up, drive us both to the lovely FREE weekend away including concert tickets, buy you a tshirt from the merch stand to say thank you, and I'd also turn up with a bottle of something nice for the room.

Tbh I probably would transfer the 20 quid without comment, but never, ever invite her again. I'd hazard a guess here that you are the more generous friend and are frequently "first to the bar". I'm a firm believer in the phrase "mean with money, mean with love". I absolutely hate meanness, it's such an unattractive trait in either friends or partners.

followmyflow · 12/06/2023 23:56

meh, i think i'd just give the £20 petrol and not make a big fuss over a small amount. i don't have my licence yet and i've been driven around many times by very kind friends & family. i always offer petrol money. it doesn't really matter to me what we're doing, who suggested it etc. perhaps consider her effort in driving you a thanks for the trip instead of the money itself

Mamanyt · 12/06/2023 23:57

Personally, I don't ask anyone to drive me anywhere without expecting to, and offering upfront to, pay for petrol. But that's just me.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 13/06/2023 00:05

Mamanyt · 12/06/2023 23:57

Personally, I don't ask anyone to drive me anywhere without expecting to, and offering upfront to, pay for petrol. But that's just me.

Personally, I wouldn't dream of accepting a free weekend away without offering to contribute something (transport, dinner, etc) as a proper thank you. But that's just me.

Ihatepickingausername3 · 13/06/2023 00:08

Changing what I said with the update. If she bought merchandise then she isn’t hard up. She’s a cheeky fucker for sure!

Casilero · 13/06/2023 00:09

StarbucksSmarterSister · 13/06/2023 00:05

Personally, I wouldn't dream of accepting a free weekend away without offering to contribute something (transport, dinner, etc) as a proper thank you. But that's just me.

Same.

And it would be interesting to note out of the posters on either side of the debate, how many actually get invited to these free events. Or a repeat invite.

uncomfortablydumb53 · 13/06/2023 00:13

Your friend does not appreciate you
I wouldn't hesitate to pay for fuel to show my gratitude
YANBU

WomblingTree86 · 13/06/2023 00:15

Mamanyt · 12/06/2023 23:57

Personally, I don't ask anyone to drive me anywhere without expecting to, and offering upfront to, pay for petrol. But that's just me.

Surely you also wouldn't except a free hotel stay with food and alcohol without offering something in return though? If the friend didn't want to do that she should have said in advance that she expected OP to pay half the petrol costs so OP could have considered whether she really wanted the friend to go with her. She might have preferred to invite someone more appreciative.

Mamanyt · 13/06/2023 00:18

StarbucksSmarterSister · 13/06/2023 00:05

Personally, I wouldn't dream of accepting a free weekend away without offering to contribute something (transport, dinner, etc) as a proper thank you. But that's just me.

LOL, come to think of it, neither would I. But, then, that's us. And I had rather misread the initial post that a THIRD friend had driven them, which changes things considerably. DO NOT have a stroke! Your brain is never quite right again, and you sometime miss the smaller details!

Mamanyt · 13/06/2023 00:20

WomblingTree86 · 13/06/2023 00:15

Surely you also wouldn't except a free hotel stay with food and alcohol without offering something in return though? If the friend didn't want to do that she should have said in advance that she expected OP to pay half the petrol costs so OP could have considered whether she really wanted the friend to go with her. She might have preferred to invite someone more appreciative.

See my answer to @StarbucksSmarterSister . I had an attack of strokebrain!

Fisharejumping · 13/06/2023 00:31

Casilero · 12/06/2023 23:44

I'm definitely going to get my mum to join mumsnet. She's 74, and she does sometimes get bored (in between lunch dates and holidays) and posts random shit on Facebook.

She'd be way more use on here. She'd not only be picking people up on manners, she'd be in her element correcting all the grammar mistakes such as "could of" and double negatives. Unfortunately, she won't be able to correct pronunciation as she can't hear that. But anyone who writes "innit" will rue the day they were born 🤣🤣🤣

Great. When's she coming? Mumsnet needs her.

ALongHardWinter · 13/06/2023 00:41

I think this has to take the prize for cheeky fuckery!

LivingTheDreamNow · 13/06/2023 00:42

I “used to” have a friend like this, shared my modest holiday home with her for over 30 years.

Even let her use it occasionally with friends & family for free.

Cooked meals for us because she rarely had money to eat out, occasionally fish & chips, we paid for our own.

She knew that I had to pay council tax, ground rent, club fees, water, electricity etc.
We shared the cost of petrol for years, each taking turns driving, with our own cars.

Then on our last trip a couple of years ago when I drove she complained about having to contribute half towards the petrol.
As my car wasn’t as “fuel efficient” as hers!
Needless to say, that was our last trip there together.

You try to bend over backwards to be a nice person and to do nice things for friends but then suddenly you realise what a mug you’re being taken for.

Your “friend” really is taking the piss by asking for the £20, she’s an ungrateful cow.

I’d definitely ask her if she was joking after you gifting her such a generous weekend away.

Casilero · 13/06/2023 00:53

Fisharejumping · 13/06/2023 00:31

Great. When's she coming? Mumsnet needs her.

I'm all over this.

To be honest, it will take the heat off me. I love her to bits, and I'm sure I'll miss her relentless criticism when she's no longer with us, but in the meantime I'm gonna share the love 🤣

fucktonofcats · 13/06/2023 01:29

Did this really cost the OP nothing?

Maybe the company are going to put it on a PSA, gross-up and pay the tax.

Or, maybe, it's going to go on the OP's P11d, and she's going to pay tax on that £400 value.

Let's assume the OP is going to pay an additional £80 of tax through their tax code.

So... the friend owes the OP £60.

custardcreme77 · 13/06/2023 01:39

I’m undecided whether your friend is ungrateful or downright cheeky.

I would be tempted to ignore her text. If she texts again - or says anything - say you honestly thought she was joking, especially after you had shared your hard-earned perk with her.