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To be put out that my friend is asking me to pay her money?

774 replies

Sundaycoffee · 12/06/2023 20:15

I was given a very nice perk through work for myself and a plus one for an all expenses paid trip, it included hotel, all food and drink and entertainment for the value of £400 per person and I chose to take a particualr friend. My friend kindly drove us there and back (Bristol to London). She text me today asking me to transfer her half of the petrol money for the trip (£20)
AIBU to think if someone had done the same for me I would let the petrol money slide?

OP posts:
NYE2023 · 12/06/2023 23:05

Is it totally free for you - or a taxable benefit ? Even if you are only taxed on the incremental cost to your company, you will still have some tax cost .

briansgardenshed · 12/06/2023 23:05

OP didn't get it for free - any more than anyone gets their salaries, perks, bonuses and annual leave for "free". It was part of her "reward package" for doing her job!

Helena189 · 12/06/2023 23:06

XiCi · 12/06/2023 20:33

I agree. I dont think it's fair to ask someone along on a freebie then expect them to pay for transport. How would OP have got there if the friend hadn't driven her? I presume she would have had to pay for transport costs herself. I would have paid half if I was the OP in this situation.

I agree!

Sundaycoffee · 12/06/2023 23:06

Preps · 12/06/2023 23:01

I've definitely had my arm twisted to accompany someone on a free trip/take a spare ticket several times in the past.

I wouldn't ask for petrol money, but definitely I've done it when a friend (or even an aquaintance) was struggling to find someone to go with them. If my financial situation was different I might need my costs covered to make it possible.

I've also had friends say to me "I don't really fancy it/the date doesn't really work, but let me know if you don't find anyone".

I don't get the impression it was this. She told me she liked / wanted to see this particular artist. She also spent money on merch when there

OP posts:
aperolspritzbasicbitch · 12/06/2023 23:07

I'd probably send the full £40 (because I'm a petty cow, readily happy to cut my nose off to spite my face if it's going to go any way towards proving a point) reply to the message with a thumbs up and have a bit of space from her for a bit.

I think she's being an incredibly CF, and going forwards I probably wouldn't feel massively giving towards her.

MasterBeth · 12/06/2023 23:08

Sundaycoffee · 12/06/2023 23:06

I don't get the impression it was this. She told me she liked / wanted to see this particular artist. She also spent money on merch when there

I hope you paid for half of that. She wouldn't have bought it if you hadn't dragged her against her will on this break.

Casilero · 12/06/2023 23:08

StolenCookie · 12/06/2023 22:37

Everyone saying that the OP got this trip for ‘free’ is wrong. This is a work perk. OP did not stumble on this weekend by complete chance. They earned it. I think it’s insane to request petrol money after enjoying an all expenses paid weekend away. Not just a one-off freebie but a whole weekend.

Pure madness.

Exactly!

I'm lucky enough to benefit from my brother in laws freebies from his job. He works crazy hours and this is one of the "perks" to make up for that. So if my sister offers me one of her free concert tickets, football tickets, event tickets, whatever then I am very grateful and I'll INSIST on paying for both of our taxis there and back, plus INSIST on getting a round in. Which is way more than 40 quid. Of course my sister will do this "oh no you don't have to" (and means it) and I'll do the "no, I insist". My sister has these tickets in the first place because her husband works crazy hours, and she's certainly not short on people to offer free Beyoncé tickets to.

Our mother even feels the need to remind me about my manners (despite the fact I'm 50 and the answer is always the same). She'll ring me up and say "oh isn't it nice your sister invited you, it would be nice if you, for example paid for the taxi". Yes mum I know!

I'm gonna tell my mum to come on here. She'd be in her element 🤣🤣

determinedtomakethiswork · 12/06/2023 23:11

anythinginapinch · 12/06/2023 20:44

The holiday cost you zero it cost her £40

It was a prize for work she had done. Her friend hasn't done that work.

Feelinadequate23 · 12/06/2023 23:13

Because the OP got them the trip for free in the first place! She’s more than “paid her way” by offering it to the friend!

determinedtomakethiswork · 12/06/2023 23:15

I have realised tonight that this is one of my favourite types of threads!

Casilero · 12/06/2023 23:17

Fisharejumping · 12/06/2023 22:39

French. 😂

I actually really liked "Grench". I'm adopting that for swearwords said in a Grinch like manner. So maybe the dictionary definition would be

"Swearwords directed towards an individual or group of people. Eg, pardon my Grench, but you are all a bunch of twats"

Ahsoka2001 · 12/06/2023 23:17

Preps · 12/06/2023 20:28

Does.no one else find it odd that the "host" didn't do the driving? I'll bet there's back story there.

Maybe OP doesn't drive? Not everyone has their license

VerdentMedows · 12/06/2023 23:21

She's a CF for sure but is it worth removing a friend over £20. From her point of view you got the trip for free too and I bet she thinks and £20 each was worth it for the time away.

Caramelatt · 12/06/2023 23:22

determinedtomakethiswork · 12/06/2023 23:15

I have realised tonight that this is one of my favourite types of threads!

Mine too 😀

Casilero · 12/06/2023 23:22

category12 · 12/06/2023 22:50

Nah, she's really not.

Even if she'd stayed at home and literally done nothing all weekend, she'd still have needed to eat, use utilities and drink something even if it was just tap water. And given most people don't just live on gruel and tap water, surely she'd have spent more than 40 quid on a weekend by not going?

StarbucksSmarterSister · 12/06/2023 23:24

She's a right CF, and obviously not the only one. if a friend took me for free on a weekend worth £400 pp, I would automatically offer to pay train fare/ petrol or take her for dinner as a thank you. It wouldn't matter whether it was a reward from work, won in a competition or whatever, it's the principle.

OP, if it's a taxable benefit, bill her 50% of the tax. Otherwise, give her £20 and ditch her.

thisuser · 12/06/2023 23:24

HotToddyColdSauvignon · 12/06/2023 20:18

Say yes here’s £20 and then send her an invoice for £200 for her share of your treat

this.

DoubleTime · 12/06/2023 23:26

You are not BU, but pay the £20. And when you text to confirm you have, say 'hey you just won't believe the luxury/super weekend I've been given by work this month !' And then of course don't reply when she asks.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 12/06/2023 23:26

She's a CF for sure but is it worth removing a friend over £20.

The friend should be asking herself the same question, surely.

Frances0911 · 12/06/2023 23:32

Just wandering if she is annoyed about something, so asking for the money.

Did she offer to drive, or did you ask her to? If the latter, is that why you asked this friend in particular, so you had a lift?

Was it a good trip, did she enjoy herself? If she enjoyed herself, then yes, she is being very cheeky.

LuluBlakey1 · 12/06/2023 23:33

How about
'I am really taken aback by your request for £20 for petrol. You've just had a free, lovely weekend, all expenses paid - hotel, food, drink and entertainment- because I asked if you wanted to come with me and share my prize. You chose to come along, we had a great time and I can't believe you're now asking me for £20 petrol money- I'm really disappointed by this and what it says about how you value our friendship.
I wondered if you wanted to reconsider the request before I consider my response.'

Casilero · 12/06/2023 23:35

Caramelatt · 12/06/2023 23:22

Mine too 😀

Same. I'm way over invested in this.

It's not often I get a chance to look down on others in relation to manners though. I eat with my elbows on the table, I quite often just use a fork (in the wrong hand), I frequently didn't get round to posting my children's "thank you" letters for gifts, and I'm terrible with remembering birthdays. In fact just this month I got the month wrong on a close family members birthday.

On this though, I'm confident, my manners are 100% correct 😁

TheThinkingGoblin · 12/06/2023 23:39

Doesn't matter what her "friend" requests.

OP never agreed to cover the petrol costs before the trip.

Thats all that matters now if the "friend" decides to go down this path.

I would simply ignore her and move on.

Iamtheonwandlonely · 12/06/2023 23:40

MrsSkylerWhite · 12/06/2023 21:17

If someone very kindly invites you on an all expenses paid trip to London, you drive and shout the fuel, at the very least. It's how it works. It's rude to do otherwise.”

Doesn”t that depend where you are driving from? It would cost me £140 to drive to London and back. It would be rude in those circumstances for my passenger not to offer a contribution.

Then don't go.
Simple really

TheThinkingGoblin · 12/06/2023 23:41

VerdentMedows · 12/06/2023 23:21

She's a CF for sure but is it worth removing a friend over £20. From her point of view you got the trip for free too and I bet she thinks and £20 each was worth it for the time away.

In my experience, the tightwads rely on precisely this logic.

I would stand my ground. Do not enable this behavior.