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Holly Willoughby needs to go

220 replies

Bucketheadbucketbum · 05/06/2023 10:52

Her actions and non actions throughout this whole saga makes it abundantly clear shes clearly just a fake nice person, how disappointed . She needs to go now

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benfoldsfivefan · 06/06/2023 08:37

Jan Moir also nailed it a few days ago when she called Holly: St Holly the Mother Superior of the Blind Eye Convent.

LifeIsPainHighness · 06/06/2023 08:42

ODFODeary · 06/06/2023 07:55

No she didn't
Stop trying to see things that aren't there
Christ 🙄

It’s so pathetic isn’t it.

Im a bit astonished at some people realising that the lady on the TV show isn’t actually their friend.

RetinaRouge · 06/06/2023 08:47

hotsummerlovin · 05/06/2023 12:14

A lot of the people who preach the be kind bollocks end up being nasty, toxic bullies, themselves!

Yes. I detest that phrase. Spouted by stupid virtue-signalling people who think using that hashtag makes them some kind of moral saviour. When they are often prejudiced shitbags themselves.

And I will be nice to whom I want, when I want, thank you. I am a decent human and do not need telling who I should be kind to.

I don’t understand why our behaviour as a nation needs to be affected by the death of Caroline Flack. Whilst I am sorry for her family, why should the death of a celeb who has nothing to do with me, guide my future behaviour?

RetinaRouge · 06/06/2023 08:49

Alan987 · 05/06/2023 16:24

For goodness sake she's a presenter, probably reading other peoples words / scripts and she's upset at a colleague.

Is she so immune to the horrors facing the world in Ukraine, starving in Africa, women not be allowed to be educated in Islamic Afghanistan, and she is upset because she thinks someone fibbed.
Grow up
And no I do not and never have watched itv morning / daytime garbage tv

Yep. It makes me glad to have a job otherwise I might have wanted to watch stuff like this…

RetinaRouge · 06/06/2023 08:54

Lolabear38 · 06/06/2023 00:45

@Comedycook ’be kind nonsense’ ? Have a serious word with yourself. She might be hard as nails (however as none of us know her we can’t possibly know) but she’s still a human being. Who, incidentally, is not the one who has done anything wrong. You’ve made yourself sound like a vile and callous human being by saying that. I really hope you’re not as awful as you sound.

@Bucketheadbucketbum totally
unecessary post trying to incite a witch hunt. Horrible.

I don’t really care about any of this, but do you really think that saying a celeb is fake and as hard as nails makes someone a ‘vile and callous human being’? That’s way ott! Are you a friend of HW? Your reaction is odd otherwise.

watermeloncougar · 06/06/2023 08:57

@Unintentionallycausingoffence
Sorry, . CF was going to jail for domestic assault and I thought she may have been terrified of that.

I was no fan of CF (or HW for that matter) but this is simply incorrect. The court case never happened so it's ridiculous to state that she was going to jail. Also, 'domestic assault' is not an offence; I believe it was assault by beating.

The nonsense spouted on here....

Dulra · 06/06/2023 08:57

I am actually going to go against what others are saying and suggest that YANBU I think holly should go. There are two issues here one is PS and his affair with a runner which looks like grooming and his lies. The other is the toxic environment in TM which previous presenters and staff have made complaints/ statements on. HW seems to be part of that toxic bullying environment and complicit with it. Anyone who behaves like that in the work place should be shown the door, don't care who they are and what their role is. Same for all the management team associated with this programme. A full independent investigation needed and people shown the door, no organisation should tolerate bullying in the workplace and staff, whatever their role should be protected from it. Your employer has a duty of care to you

NewAgain123 · 06/06/2023 09:02

People like him don't just groom a child, they groom people around them too.

dessyh · 06/06/2023 09:22

Radyward · 05/06/2023 23:46

Dessyh

I do know it was way more than that with Tim Schofield. i meant what He said to PS that they were a' couple ' of a sort after his victim came of age so the relationship was then "ok'
Ps story regarding MM sure has echoes of TS tale that he told his P

I see. Not sure where you got the 'couple' thing.

Part of PS tell all package with the Sun last week had the paper implying that PS acted quickly to alert the police to his brother’s wrongdoing...

“The ex-presenter shopped his brother in to cops after learning of his crimes and revealed he has not spoken to him since the night of his arrest.”
www.thesun.co.uk/news/22563866/phillip-schofield-opens-up-brothers-child-sex-offence/

TS went to PS to partially confess in September 21. PS told him not to do it again. Three months later the boy told a school counsellor, the school immediately reported it to police and TS was arrested. In December 21.

“Shopped to cops“ obviously commonly means bringing previously unknown crime/s by a specific person/people to the attention of the authorities. Here it’s used to refer to PS simply telling police in December, after the arrest, about what he already knew was wrong three months earlier.

Given his brother's apparent mental instability at the time he told him and him continuing to try and talk about the victim's body to PS, not intervening immediately was certainly a choice.

The boy was brave in telling on his abuser and this reframing in PS favour feels like it’s taking from that. Ditto the brag about still being in touch with detectives on the case who are so happy with the outcome. As if they’re all so grateful to him and he’s such a stand up guy for not continuing to keep quiet about what so horrified him - once he knew his brother was officially in trouble for it.

All about him.

Stalkedbyzombies · 06/06/2023 09:46

They are the bride and the groom in more ways than a regular TV couple!

letsallmeetupinthehyear2000 · 06/06/2023 11:17

The editors and producers make a tv show - they are only interested in viewing figures - that’s what keeps them in their jobs - it is entertainment - they are not counsellors/psychiatrists or your friends

the80sweregreat · 06/06/2023 11:29

Mostly they want the big advertising companies to keep on giving them business.
Everything evolves around money at the end of the day.
If she can keep people watching , they won't drop her. I predict a big revamp in September and hope everyone has moved on from this

Unintentionallycausingoffence · 06/06/2023 12:14

I don’t know why CF commited suicide. It may have been the hate she received for one bad act that caused another person to be injured. (assault) Or she had other issues going on but she basically wasn’t given the right care by ITV and the concern is the same will happen to PS.

BriarHare · 06/06/2023 12:37

I don’t know if Holly will go, but I’ve had TM on in the background while I work today and, omg, Holly and Josie just doesn’t work.

I’m sure Josie is lovely, but she’s awful presenting the show. The 2 of them together are giving me Twiggy/Colleen Nolan vibes.

Mangogogogo · 06/06/2023 12:41

More women blaming other women for shit men do!

im honestly so confused by this place!

Gooseysgirl · 06/06/2023 12:45

Amanda Holden had a subtle dig at HW on Insta this morning (she said 'are you ok' and a little head tilt to the side) which tells me everything I need to know 😆 I never watch TM but saw HW's 'statement' on the news and didn't believe a word or it. There is absolutely no way she didn't know what PS got up to.

Unintentionallycausingoffence · 06/06/2023 12:47

Yes lots people see someone on their TV screens usually quite often. They say oh no not them again I can’t stand them or I’m not keen on them, that’s their opinion and they’re entitled to it. However I don’t think you can go on a forum saying “fire them” I don’t like them. I’m sure HW is a perfectly nice person but to get where she is in life she can’t be too nice, she’s ambitious but that doesn’t make her a bad person.

Lemieux3 · 06/06/2023 13:29

I agree with you about throwing around the term and trying to show that neither the pp, myself or anybody else has licence to call a celebrity a narcissist.

The people who worked with him have called him a narc. They are qualified to have a reasonably informed opinion about it, I'd argue.

LoopyLoo1991 · 06/06/2023 13:32

She could potentially earn a similar about doing OnlyFans Lol 😂

Homer28 · 07/06/2023 13:44

Holly W built her TM brand on her and PS being “best friends”. Holidaying together, drunken giggles after award shows etc. people bought into it and it was false which is what the OP is getting at I think, no point saying “oh all presenters are fake” - their popularity was based on what they were selling the public and HW hasn’t seen it through.
Ant and Dec are marketed as best friends in real life and Dec stood by Ant when he drunkenly crashed a car into a family with a young child.

lollipoprainbow · 07/06/2023 15:58

Homer28 · 07/06/2023 13:44

Holly W built her TM brand on her and PS being “best friends”. Holidaying together, drunken giggles after award shows etc. people bought into it and it was false which is what the OP is getting at I think, no point saying “oh all presenters are fake” - their popularity was based on what they were selling the public and HW hasn’t seen it through.
Ant and Dec are marketed as best friends in real life and Dec stood by Ant when he drunkenly crashed a car into a family with a young child.

Totally agree. Ant and dec are real friends not fake ones.

Unintentionallycausingoffence · 07/06/2023 17:52

To say Jaffa Cake is a biscuit and not a cake?

Unintentionallycausingoffence · 07/06/2023 17:54

To say the colour violet is more purple than blue or Amber traffic lights are orange and not yellow?

Unintentionallycausingoffence · 07/06/2023 17:54

To call people from Britain, Britishers?

StemStem · 07/06/2023 18:04

Unintentionallycausingoffence · 07/06/2023 17:52

To say Jaffa Cake is a biscuit and not a cake?

The clue to is being a cake is in the name.