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Holly Willoughby needs to go

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Bucketheadbucketbum · 05/06/2023 10:52

Her actions and non actions throughout this whole saga makes it abundantly clear shes clearly just a fake nice person, how disappointed . She needs to go now

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the80sweregreat · 05/06/2023 17:58

They normally revamp these shows don't they ?
It's only a few weeks till they break up for Summer, so I can imagine they will have new re upholstery for the sofas and new people on a rota and hope everyone has forgotten about it by September!
Holly isn't going anywhere , she's hard as nails I bet and ride it out ( in white )

LoobyDop · 05/06/2023 18:04

HARD PARTYING?!?! Burn the witch!

Stalkedbyzombies · 05/06/2023 18:05

I doubt HW participated in anything involving PS and the boys. Nobody can prove what she did or did not know so far along and it falls below the threshold of being guilty or complicit through ignoring what you knew as fact. If there ever was grounds for some kind of investigation then Dan and Holly will already have had the evidence buried.

the80sweregreat · 05/06/2023 18:09

I'm not a fan of hers, but I admit she looked glowing and it was a nice dress. (A nice holiday helped of course ! )
If only I could ever look that groomed and stylish
My friend reminded me today of the Fern Britten lies about her having a gastric sleeve or some kind of procedure like this for weight loss and she tried to pass it off as exercise and diet
Not quite the same, of course , but maybe why she is staying out of this!

letsallmeetupinthehyear2000 · 05/06/2023 18:10

IAmAnIdiot123 · 05/06/2023 10:57

Most television personalities are fake, why this is news to people is beyond me!

Just don't watch it.

Exactly what I was going to put OP
dont get why people surprised or even care - they are people who haven’t got there by being nice - they are not saints - just humans flawed or otherwise
oh and stop with the death by social media - you’re being manipulated again

mummywithtwokidsplusdog · 05/06/2023 18:11

She must have been aware of what was going on - which makes her speech today disingenuous at best. She should have been speaking out about concerns- she can’t have had no idea.

LifeIsPainHighness · 05/06/2023 18:11

Likeaburstcouch · 05/06/2023 10:54

She's a TV presenter, not your mate. Whether or not she's 'fake' is impossible for you to know and irrelevant to how well she can do her job.

This.

Why is it women in presenting roles have to be Very Nice and whiter than white?

Yet Piers Morgan, who has basically stalked Meghan Markle for the better part of 7 years, doesn’t get nearly as much outrage as a woman whose only crime is she Co-presented with a man who had an affair.

Can we just fucking stop punishing women for the fuck ups of men?

Namechanger1002 · 05/06/2023 18:20

Didn’t Lorraine Kelly dodge a million pound tax bill by saying that she was playing a persona or was an actress or something? Can’t be arsed to google it. They are all over paid fake arseholes and that’s why I don’t watch them.
I feel bad for the people who do watch them and buy into these personalities- they are the ones who have been duped.

benfoldsfivefan · 05/06/2023 18:21

Some people here are very naive. What do you think the drunk runner was talking to her about after the NTA awards in January 2020? The price of milk? Two months later, when she ‘interviewed’ PD, she goes along with the crap of Philip Schofield coming out because he’s been inspired by the “brave” guests as I thought “I have to be that person”.

Namechanger1002 · 05/06/2023 18:21

I agree that if Holly was a man nobody would be coming for her like this. I don’t like sickly sweet women - but sexism is at play here far more than ~non existent~ homophobia
Martin frizell is a disgusting specimen too

Cat1066 · 05/06/2023 18:23

She can't win. If he support Philip Schofield she's accused of supporting his behaviour. If she doesn't she's accused of being a fair weather friend. Leave her alone. Why should she lose her job?

I don't know her. I don't know what she's like as a person. But I can't imagine being so full of vitriol for someone that i start a thread saying she should lose her job. For something her co presenter did?

the80sweregreat · 05/06/2023 18:25

Anyone who reads any autobiography of someone famous , it's obvious how cut throat the whole arena of 'show biz ' is to work in.
They might try and say it's one big happy family, but it really isn't and people are trampled on right left and centre every day.
It's not what you know it's who. No surprises to any of this

TheYearOfSmallThings · 05/06/2023 18:27

I don't think she is to blame for any of this shit, and I think she should be allowed move forward now.

As for the people spewing vitriol, they are just seeking any outlet for the anger and hatred simmering away inside them.

HowNowBrownElephant · 05/06/2023 18:30

Bucketheadbucketbum · 05/06/2023 10:52

Her actions and non actions throughout this whole saga makes it abundantly clear shes clearly just a fake nice person, how disappointed . She needs to go now

Why does the image of a baby throwing it’s toys out of the pram come to mind?

Lets stop this ridiculous witch-hunt.

Qilin · 05/06/2023 21:24

If I had it made abundantly clear to me my friend had been doing something immoral and inappropriate having sworn to me they hadn't, and had continued luck g to me when asked - then yes, I'd likely drop them to. At the very least I'd take time out, have no contact for a whole, and give my self chance to regroup.

She can't win.

Support him and be vilified.
Reject him and be vilified.
The baying public will never be happy either way.

threeisacharm18 · 05/06/2023 21:44

I don't think she should be sacked.

So what if she knew? By the time she found out it would have been 2020 like everyone else. By that time the man in question was an adult. So even if she knew Phil was lying - he committed no crime. It was just in bad form.

Was she supposed to resign? How many of us faced with the same situation would give up our jobs or even complain to management over what is a sexual relationship between 2 adults who are denying a relationship?

The only person who should be punished is Phil. And to be clear I couldn't care less about TM or Holly for that matter - it's a nonsense show - the appeal of which I do not understand

Inthedarkagain · 05/06/2023 21:48

Sissynova · 05/06/2023 10:54

Who cares??? Honestly some of you need something better focus your attention on.

Like government corruption! I do wonder if this is all a distraction from the COVID enquiry embarrassment. Our government clearly have A LOT to hide.

Judging by the responses on this thread it isn't working.

Bbq1 · 05/06/2023 22:46

Blossomtoes · 05/06/2023 11:20

Caroline wasn't a self-serving narcissist.

No, she was a violent domestic abuser.

Exactly this. I'm obviously sorry CF died tragically but she is elevated to Saint status by some. She abused her partner and then couldn't dace the fall out. She probably was a narcissist.

Marchintospring · 05/06/2023 23:00

Namechanger1002 · 05/06/2023 18:21

I agree that if Holly was a man nobody would be coming for her like this. I don’t like sickly sweet women - but sexism is at play here far more than ~non existent~ homophobia
Martin frizell is a disgusting specimen too

She (HW)buys into that though. Fern Britten was irreverent and robust whilst being quite slick at her job. HW comes across as utterly vapid. She’s paid a fortune though so she must have opinions on something.
She must have known what PS was up to. I don’t like women who pretend they are thick as mince. Does us all a disservice.

Chasingadvice · 05/06/2023 23:01

@Bbq1 I agree with your post regarding the domestic abuse etc but you're hardly qualified to say someone is 'probably a narcissist.'

The word has lost its meaning with all the pop psychology nuts declaring anyone they don't like a narcissist.

dessyh · 05/06/2023 23:09

Radyward · 05/06/2023 11:29

She has lost the trust of her viewers. its all over the media of the toxic work environment of TM. there is a ?on whether she was complicit and ignored her friends relationship with a jumior employee who got the job thru PS and then entered a sexual relationship with him she has denied all knowledge of the nature of their relationship BUT the public dont know who to believe . its hard to trust the word of PS in saying Holly knew nothing when he knew his own brother had an inappropriate relationship and kept quiet. i wouldnt depend on PS word or him vouching for me. TM feels seedy / feels fake now. Holly and TM need to go. id say her marketability for M and S is damaged and they will be looking to drop her

The brother didn't have an "inappropriate relationship" - he's been jailed for 12 years for repeated CSA of victim from age 13.

Radyward · 05/06/2023 23:46

Dessyh

I do know it was way more than that with Tim Schofield. i meant what He said to PS that they were a' couple ' of a sort after his victim came of age so the relationship was then "ok'
Ps story regarding MM sure has echoes of TS tale that he told his P

Ladybug3 · 05/06/2023 23:59

Marchintospring · 05/06/2023 23:00

She (HW)buys into that though. Fern Britten was irreverent and robust whilst being quite slick at her job. HW comes across as utterly vapid. She’s paid a fortune though so she must have opinions on something.
She must have known what PS was up to. I don’t like women who pretend they are thick as mince. Does us all a disservice.

Yep. She only got the job because Phil bullied Fern out and wanted someone he could control more easily. Now Phil is gone why is she there? She isn’t popular, she isn’t entertaining or funny, for such a huge show they really should find someone better. Eamonn and Ruth were much better and it’s a shame they were forced out. Rylan was also good.

Ladybug3 · 06/06/2023 00:01

benfoldsfivefan · 05/06/2023 18:21

Some people here are very naive. What do you think the drunk runner was talking to her about after the NTA awards in January 2020? The price of milk? Two months later, when she ‘interviewed’ PD, she goes along with the crap of Philip Schofield coming out because he’s been inspired by the “brave” guests as I thought “I have to be that person”.

Piers Morgan just confirmed on his show that the runner was drunk at the NTA’s and was declaring how he was in love with Philip, if Piers Morgan witnessed this I’m sure Holly did!

Swrigh1234 · 06/06/2023 00:20

These people at ITV are laughing at the gullible audience. The rip off statement from the Apple TV show read out by her was pathetic. It’s like they are all in on the joke and the audience are being taken for mugs.

Then again, anyone who still watches this drivel of a show should not be surprised to be treated like an idiot. The show is about 20 years out of date.

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