Holly Willoughby needs to go

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Her actions and non actions throughout this whole saga makes it abundantly clear shes clearly just a fake nice person, how disappointed . She needs to go now

Not a HW fan, I just see that the woman cannot win. She did have less power than Phil.

But she knew all about the affair with the runner (probably). She’s no innocent.

Also, do you really think PS’s wife had no idea either what she signed up for or that he may have been shagging around whilst they were married! If so you are very naive.

Fuck me is this still going? Seriously get a life.

I know, I can’t believe people are cross because she may not always be as perky as she is on TV. I bet Ant and Dec sometimes go into moods and Gordon Ramsey is really lovely now and again - I wonder if people break down crying at the thought of that happening 😂😂😂

@benfoldsfivefan lets say she did know about the affair - what was she supposed to do? Jeopardise her career by giving ITV an ultimatum? Go to the press? Break into Scofe’s bedroom and demand he stop at once? Even if she did report them - so what. Man has affair. Nothing to do with his employers.

Serious question.

Another question - at my last workplace (a school) 2 married colleagues were having a very open affair. Teachers teaching impressionable children. I said and did nothing. I have my own problems, it was nothing to do with me and one of the colleagues was the deputy head and Bessie mates with the Head. Should I have jeopardised my career by reporting them for something they couldn’t be brought up on anyway?

“Man has affair. Nothing to do with his employers.”

Well, the whole point is it is. If the runner had been mid-20s when they met at work, or if Schofield had been having an affair with a top exec it might be different but relationships with imbalanced power dynamics that are literally happening on work time with people who represent the company in a certain way (happily married father the case here when PS began intimate relationship with the runner) will be of interest.

In this case his affair was with a young man he met as a child, who he got a good job for within a year of the boy no longer legally being a child, propelled him to personal assistant level, took him out drinking, put him on TV, gave him access to career enhancing perks…so yes not a normal affair and is heavily linked to his employment.

It’s very easy to suggest what should have been done when you’re not the one doing it.

I don’t believe for a second that anyone self righteously proclaiming that Holly should have done x/y/z/, risked her job and career for something which was a rumour even if it turned out to be true, would actually risk their own livelihood and/or quit their job for justice. And anyone who says they would is lying. But it makes you look good if you claim that you’d do something else, even though you’re never going to have to prove it.

Exactly. HW is no diffferent to anyone elseZ

The example I gave above of the affair in my last workplace between two teachers - EVERYONE knew. And I always assumed that if it was a problem the Head would do something about it. I’m sure it was exactly the same at ITV.

I really would like someone to suggest what Holly should have done if she knew - because she didn’t confront PS. And he lied to her. What more should she have done, chained herself to the sofa u til he gave her a different answer?

She has to go blud!

I can't stand breakfast TV I work and the pair of them made my skin crawl. I much prefer Grumpy Eamon

Teachers who meet at work as adults is not this. More like if your headteacher met a child, stayed in contact with them, got child a job as their assistant as soon as the child turned 18, then started being intimate with them at school. Don’t believe that wouldn’t be reported to local authorities.

“I don’t believe for a second that anyone … would actually risk their own livelihood and/or quit their job for justice. And anyone who says they would is lying.”

You do you. People reported it and lost work over it. The runner went public on the relationship in February 2020 at the NTAs, got booted out of the ceremony, dumped by PS and moved to another job. PS realised he had to come out. By August Holly left the hugely powerful agency she had long shared with PS. After the story of the runner came out on social media.

She’s lying to public claiming she was unaware of what was going on. Ps used his position at ITV to groom this young lad and she along with others stood idly by. Not good enough in her position. Surely the viewers deserve better than a self serving liar

I so agree. Maybe it would help if she stopped the ‘little.girlie’ act. She is false, giggly and totally irritating to watch, which is why I don’t, any more.
‘Little girl’ Holly made me cringe the minute I first set eyes on her so I never watch anything she is in now. What are the TV people thinking if they think she is good enough to be on the show. My dog could do better, and be more likeable!

It is a case of HS would be pilliord if she spoke out and pilliored if she didn’t, she can’t win either way. What PS did to his wife was unfair but people do cheat, yes it’s not right but it’s kept behind closed doors.

Sorry HW not HS

None of this is about cheating on his wife? He didn't have to leave itv for cheating. No one is saying Holly should have reported him for 'cheating'. It's about meeting the runner as a child, getting him the job, abuse of power etc.

I am thinking this business with PS is complicated. He didn’t start a relationship with the Runner until he was legally old enough. They became friends when he was a boy? you could say PS was simply a role model or mentor. . As a friend he got him the job in TV the worst you could call that is Nepotism. They had an affair as colleagues that could just be breach of company policies, which is why PS had to go? . Nothing sordid they just broke the rules.

But presumably you might have said something if you were concerned that one of the people engaged in the affair was being exploited in some way? Either they were young or there was a large disparity in power between them?

Yes but there’s absolutely no evidence a 20yo man was exploited into an affair.

He didn’t start a relationship with the Runner until he was legally old enough.

He met him as a child and stayed in contact until he arranged to be his boss. So…big up PS for waiting for said child to legally become an adult and workplace subordinate?

They became friends when he was a boy? you could say PS was simply a role model or mentor. .

Who then installed him as an assistant and began an intimate relationship with him at work.

As a friend he got him the job in TV the worst you could call that is Nepotism.

Not the worst you could call it in the circumstances. PS didn’t have to leave because of nepotism.

They had an affair as colleagues that could just be breach of company policies, which is why PS had to go? . Nothing sordid they just broke the rules.

Plenty of itv stars date colleagues. The child to adult relationship that preceded the PS runner relationship is not normal or irrelevant and is literally what meant he had to go. Sordid...guess everyone has their own parameters.