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To not applaud Emma Willis for putting her children through hell?

207 replies

Royalbloo · 19/05/2023 21:19

I don't understand how these people can be absolutely celebrated for putting their own children through something so awful.

Does anyone else understand where I'm coming from?

I have always put my child first and I don't get the adoration they're getting?

I left someone who was addicted in order to put my child first.

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FLOWER1982 · 19/05/2023 21:20

What program is this?

Royalbloo · 19/05/2023 21:21

I obviously a "hell" not of her making, of course

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Royalbloo · 19/05/2023 21:22

It's on iPlayer Matt Willis: Fighting addiction

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User17865 · 19/05/2023 21:22

The way I understood the time line, he has relapsed once since having children and went to rehab after 4 months of relapsing and has been clean and sober since. It didn’t talk about him being abusive to her or the children. I think the children deserve their Dad to be supported so he can be a decent Dad to them again.

msisfine · 19/05/2023 21:22

Yes, let's put everyone who's struggled with something straight in the bin.

Whatt · 19/05/2023 21:23

I agree you cannot change a drug addict.
They can only change themselves.
She kept on having children with him, there is a steady age gap, she also stays with him through his many tours even though they are where he relapses.

KateyCuckoo · 19/05/2023 21:23

Why is it the woman at the source of your anger?

AnonymousA1 · 19/05/2023 21:26

Just because you left , doesn’t mean everyone should.
I did but I wouldn’t judge those who weren’t ready to.

Royalbloo · 19/05/2023 21:27

She absolutely isn't but when my addict ex was incapable of leading a positive life for our child, I took extreme steps to remove her from his influence. She did not.

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Royalbloo · 19/05/2023 21:28

We all should.

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KateyCuckoo · 19/05/2023 21:29

Be careful your halo doesn't choke you Hmm

bellac11 · 19/05/2023 21:31

Lots of families live with illness, MH etc and can be supported through that, Children dont always suffer significant harm through that, one parent can be the protective factor in many situations. From what Ive read about his situation, it wouldnt apply here anyway.

People arent perfect and need to be supported through difficult times.

Royalbloo · 19/05/2023 21:31

There's no halo here. In fact, I blame myself for a lot of what my daughter witnessed.

This just smacks of, "stand my your man"

We should be there (as the competent parent) to protect our children from those who are addicted to drink and drugs and put them as their number 1 priority, no?

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elgreco · 19/05/2023 21:31

Cherchez la femme

Royalbloo · 19/05/2023 21:32

elgreco · 19/05/2023 21:31

Cherchez la femme

I'm not blaming her for his actions, but she is responsible for her reaction

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Royalbloo · 19/05/2023 21:32

Or lack of

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Sissynova · 19/05/2023 21:33

I think you’re being a big judgemental to claim she has put her children through hell. I don’t know loads about them be I’ve listened to a podcast he was on and I was under the impression he has been clean since his children were very young.

Royalbloo · 19/05/2023 21:33

Sissynova · 19/05/2023 21:33

I think you’re being a big judgemental to claim she has put her children through hell. I don’t know loads about them be I’ve listened to a podcast he was on and I was under the impression he has been clean since his children were very young.

He did and she did nothing but stand by him.

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Sissynova · 19/05/2023 21:35

Royalbloo · 19/05/2023 21:31

There's no halo here. In fact, I blame myself for a lot of what my daughter witnessed.

This just smacks of, "stand my your man"

We should be there (as the competent parent) to protect our children from those who are addicted to drink and drugs and put them as their number 1 priority, no?

Why would you not support someone you love through an addiction through? Where is your line? You would leave immediately when it becomes apparent and never for a second try again?
Everyone has their own line.
It sounds like actually he has been a positive impact on his children for the vast majority of their lives. Why specifically are you claiming otherwise?

AuroraForever · 19/05/2023 21:37

I get where you’re coming from but we don’t know what their kids have/haven’t been through because they weren’t brought into it at all during the documentary. Quite right too. For all we know she shielded/shields them entirely and fought/fights hard to keep her family together and support the man she loves. Everyone’s situation is entirely different from our own and we should respect that instead of judging what they should or shouldn’t be doing.

Sissynova · 19/05/2023 21:37

Royalbloo · 19/05/2023 21:33

He did and she did nothing but stand by him.

Firstly, there is nothing wrong with that if someone chooses to do it.
And I’m pretty sure she left him and went to stay with family and that was his turning point when he got sober permanently.

bottomsup44 · 19/05/2023 21:38

People make their own choices for their own families. You don't know what went on in her marriage or why she decided to stick with him. Nobody does except her. Why waste your energy lamenting her? Is it just so you can gloat about your response and how it's much superior to hers?

kerrycgeorgie · 19/05/2023 21:40

I was surprised by her naivety around addiction in that she seemed to think that it could be put away/compartmentalised once he was clean. I'm sure this process has made her realise that it's a continuous process that Matt and by default she needs to confront head on. But I didn't sense that her parenting was questionable, she wasn't aware of the relapse and he shared that he was using whilst out at the studio, being deceptive.

User17865 · 19/05/2023 21:41

In what way do you feel the children have been put through hell OP?

Againstmachine · 19/05/2023 21:42

Unless this is him going rogue which it isn't.

This is part of the career projectory of being right on with fighting addiction.

Her entire career is very stage managed so it will be a choice she made.