To not applaud Emma Willis for putting her children through hell?

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I don't understand how these people can be absolutely celebrated for putting their own children through something so awful.

Does anyone else understand where I'm coming from?

I have always put my child first and I don't get the adoration they're getting?

I left someone who was addicted in order to put my child first.

Absolutely agree. Why would you marry and have kids with a drug addict.

What is also annoying is many of these situations end up with divorce and the women seems to absolve themselves from responsibility because it was HIM that was the addict.

Make good choices people

And there is zero evidence she has put her children though hell. That is OP projecting her own guilt about what she put her own kids though it seems.

There seems to be a lot of projecting going on here. Just because the OP had the right response for her personal situation doesn’t mean that is the right response for every situation no matter what the similarities are.

Addiction is a disease.

Are there any other diseases you would leave you partner over? Or is it just the stigma and your misunderstanding of this illness that has led you to this judgement.

I watched the documentary and I'm afraid I felt that it was only a matter of time before he relapses. It seemed like his sobriety is hanging by a thread. That must be horrendous for Emma and the children to live with day to day.
They clearly absolutely adore each other but I agree with OP the children have to come first. They can not protect them from their dad's addiction and will be scarred in some way from it.

Most marriages end up in divorce.

Most addictive using doesn’t look like addiction at first it’s a progressive illness, so likely only noticeable when it’s late in the day. there’s nothing that can be done to stop it until it’s so bad you realise it’s a problem.

You should try to research properly before you judge.

@Irritateandunreasonable except the documentary said that he went into rehab when they'd only been together three months so she knew early on.

It's probably easier to shelter children from problems when you have money and space. He hasn't relapsed recently and they're not crammed into a tiny house where their young children will have necessarily been aware of it.

To be fair she probably didn't know what she was taking on

He was in rehab 3 days before the wedding

I wonder if she was also a partier back when she was 20/21 and assumed he would grow out of it too like she and many of her friends had. They started dating when he was 21 and she was 28 and married when he was 24 and she was 31. He had relapsed during their 3 year pre marriage relationship but given he was early 20s, I wonder if she really thought this was more of a young guy in a rock band issue than an addiction. Many people use substances to excess in their late teens / early 20s and don't go on to deal with life long addiction.

Hopefully this programme will help dispel some of the stigma that surrounds addiction and mental illness. If some of the posts on this sanctimonious, judgemental thread are anything to go by, that can only be a good thing.

Mmmm, that’s why children of celebrities never have problems. Oh, wait…

Here here.

Or rather, hear hear 😅

Matt said he relapsed while his littlest was eight months, so that would have been around Jan 2017. He also went on to say he missed his wife’s birthday party that March.

So their oldest child would have been coming up for 8 years old and their second child would have been around 6.5.

They would have been aware.

I applaud her and I don't think it was made clear that the kids have been through hell. Normally I would agree that it's best to leave. But they clearly have a strong relationship and love each other. They've kept a dignified silence for a long time. You could see how hard she found the meeting with families - there was no false hugging or "you're so brave" statements I can imagine other celebs making. She's made a choice to stick by him and I think she's sensible enough to prioritise her kids. Im not convinced he won't slip up again and I don't think she is either, it must be a hard way to live, but at least they both know that and aren't pretending otherwise or being evangelical about being clean.

MN is the strangest place on n the planet!

My husband is a drug addict. He’s off his face a lot of the time. We have 2 kids yada yada yada.

I know exactly what the responses would be.

I also imagine you only saw the tip of the iceberg with Emma. She's a lot more private than others and probably won't say if she's chucked him out or left him.

She's a lot more private than others and probably won't say if she's chucked him out or left him.

did you watch the program? does she strike you as someone who would have chucked him out or left him?

I agree with @FMLWTF s assessment here:

She comes across as a wet lettuce and a bit pathetic really. He’s just a typical narcissist who thinks everything is about him. She is happy to indulge that. They’re made for each other really.

She married him knowing about his problem and that bit when she was being interviewed on day time tv about being excited for the wedding when he was in rehab was unpleasant viewing. Once you knew what you were looking for you could see it in her eyes but otherwise you'd have just taken it at face value.

I agree with @BriarHare that he’s an arse and Emma Willis is a mug.

It's absolute insanity to marry someone in that situation and go on to have children with them and stay with them - you could see the toll it took on her. The only explanation is that she has some sort of serious problems herself - saviour complex, submissive narcissist worshipper or something - because no one with options, choices, money, healthy boundaries and a strong sense of self would marry a man in that situation.

Why did he request collagen and protein shake as his show rider? Odd thing to want to drink late at night.

Was the other guy really going to drink 6 bottles of wine after each show?

Now the Um Bongo and Cadbury’s Marvellous Creations I could get on board with.

Blossom toes and damn spot, completely agree!

Why would a collagen and protein shake be odd at all? Concerts are often very energetic and draining performances for the artists. A protein shake (collagen is a protein) seems like a very appropriate item to have for a performer.

The other guy presumably asked for 6 bottles of wine to drink with mates

It didn't show any staff or "cronies".

You clearly have confidence in your take on the situation so why invent extra "detail"? It is not true, so cannot possibly strengthen your position. In fact it makes you seem jealous.